I am a staunch believer that Prince ultimately needs no one to collaborate with and I am rarely excited about it. But every time I cue up "Why Should I Love You" I have fantasies about what an album by Prince and Kate would be like. David Bowie is probably the only other artist with the capability and legendary status to be considered as a Prince collaborator (or the Prince version of collaboration) in my dreams.

just in case you don't know:

Kate Bush is mentioned in the "thank you" notes on the Diamonds & Pearls album.

I like Why Should I Love You? and My Computer too.

Although its a big shame you can't hear Kate's voice on My Computer...

JoshuaWho said:

I am a staunch believer that Prince ultimately needs no one to collaborate with and I am rarely excited about it. But every time I cue up "Why Should I Love You"

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Not exactly a collaboration. They sent tapes back and forth, with Prince taking her recording and completely redoing the song. What ended up on her album was basically a mix of both versions. The story's out there, Kate's producer has talked about this at length.

"All of the people in the world"

BartVanHemelen said:

I would love to see Nick Cave collaborate with Prince, either on a bluesy ballad or something with the Bad Seeds full of fire and venom. Nick Cave is an absolute genius - almost in the same league in my opinion, tho for different reasons and aesthetics.

I would also be interested to see what Prince and Morrissey might come up with (or at least overhear a conversation between them), though maybe Prince with Johnny Marr could be more interesting.

BartVanHemelen said:

any doubts someone in prince's camp are monitoring the org oughtta be put to rest by checking yer facebook...

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Not exactly a collaboration. They sent tapes back and forth, with Prince taking her recording and completely redoing the song. What ended up on her album was basically a mix of both versions. The story's out there, Kate's producer has talked about this at length.

True, both of them are such perfectionists that a real collaboration wouldn't work anyway.

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Oh for crying out loud, Prince is not a perfectionist. Have you LISTENED to any of his recent output? Yeah, perfectionists just looooove that clipping sound. They just love all those typos.

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And Kate has collaborated with plenty of people. Only Prince decided to be a total dick and instead of simply adding guitar etc to the supplied recording he remixed it into one of those crappy housey things he was into back then, because his big ego decided he should "improve" the source material.

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I'm amazed Kate still spoke highly of him afterwards.

BartVanHemelen said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said: True, both of them are such perfectionists that a real collaboration wouldn't work anyway.

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Oh for crying out loud, Prince is not a perfectionist. Have you LISTENED to any of his recent output? Yeah, perfectionists just looooove that clipping sound. They just love all those typos.

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And Kate has collaborated with plenty of people. Only Prince decided to be a total dick and instead of simply adding guitar etc to the supplied recording he remixed it into one of those crappy housey things he was into back then, because his big ego decided he should "improve" the source material.

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I'm amazed Kate still spoke highly of him afterwards.

U must be European...

fnksoul said:

So the Prince page just posted a Kate Bush video.... Does who ever control it read the Org?.... [Edited 11/13/14 13:20pm]

Was posted long before this post though...

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Not exactly a collaboration. They sent tapes back and forth, with Prince taking her recording and completely redoing the song. What ended up on her album was basically a mix of both versions. The story's out there, Kate's producer has talked about this at length.

True, both of them are such perfectionists that a real collaboration wouldn't work anyway.

What gave you the impression he is?

Such a pity that track ended up being such a dogs dinner. By far and away the best bit is Lenny Henry's cameo.

EvilAngel said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

EvilAngel said:

What gave you the impression he is?

Albums like Parade or Purple Rain. Sure, he's made some throwaway records, but he knows what he want when recording and so does Kate. Both have their own vision in their head of what they want and how it should sound and putting two people like that together wouldn't work.

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Oh for fuck's sake. Half of PR is basically a live recording and sounds nowhere near perfect. Wanna know what perfectionists do? Go look up the likes of Steely Dan: artists who spend months in the studio getting the sound of the snare drum "just right". Now compare to testimony from Prince's engineers.

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Sheesh, it's 2014 and famz still are claiming this "perfectionist" bullcrap. Do you lot actually KNOW anything about Prince?

feeluupp said:

fnksoul said:

So the Prince page just posted a Kate Bush video.... Does who ever control it read the Org?.... [Edited 11/13/14 13:20pm]

Was posted long before this post though...

This post was started on the 11th November, they only posted the Kate Bush Video yesterday on the Page? (13th)

BartVanHemelen said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

EvilAngel said: Albums like Parade or Purple Rain. Sure, he's made some throwaway records, but he knows what he want when recording and so does Kate. Both have their own vision in their head of what they want and how it should sound and putting two people like that together wouldn't work.

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Oh for fuck's sake. Half of PR is basically a live recording and sounds nowhere near perfect. Wanna know what perfectionists do? Go look up the likes of Steely Dan: artists who spend months in the studio getting the sound of the snare drum "just right". Now compare to testimony from Prince's engineers.

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Sheesh, it's 2014 and famz still are claiming this "perfectionist" bullcrap. Do you lot actually KNOW anything about Prince?

correct Prince is NOT a perfectionist...which is a good thing i suppose....if P. tries to hard his work diminishes somewhat...just check out the outtake of we can funk compared to the grafitti bridge version..

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Not exactly a collaboration. They sent tapes back and forth, with Prince taking her recording and completely redoing the song. What ended up on her album was basically a mix of both versions. The story's out there, Kate's producer has talked about this at length.

True, both of them are such perfectionists that a real collaboration wouldn't work anyway.

Kate Bush maybe, though I´m no longer that much of a fan these days to have an opinion but Prince? Some of his best songs came into existence when he was NOT being a perfectionist ( using live material for the Purple Rain album, recording some songs in the Eden Prairie warehouse such as Let´s Go Crazy and many other songs despite the bad acoustics, using his Hohner Telecaster, the Camille voice on If I Was Your Girlfriend, the delay of vocals in Forever In My Life, the drum parts of The Ballad of Dorothy Parker ....I could go on and on).

As far as I´m concerned, Prince does best when he´s NOT trying to be a perfectionist. Because when he does, the results are often very sterile sounding.

That´s why I can listen to some rehearsal bootlegs from the mid 80s for days...I much prefer that raw sound over his superpolished, overproduced releases.

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But I agree with you that a collaboration wouldn´t really work.

SuperSoulFighter said:

Okay, maybe perfectionism is not the right word to describe Prince in the studio, but he knows what he wants and doesn't stop until something sounds the way he wants it to sound. And putting two people who are like that together usually doesn't work. That was my point. Glad someone finally got it instead of having endless debates about a word. [Edited 11/16/14 5:48am]

No self respecting artist can work with Prince. Dude wants to call all the shots. That's not how a collaboration works.

Scotsman1999 said:

Kate's unadorned version of 'Why Should I Love You' is out there, and has more emotional punch for me...it sounds great. I'm a lifelong fan of Kate and Prince, they're my no.1 and no.2 artists so it was a dream when they got together..I'm just a little disappointed that the output wasn't so stellar. Imagine how talented their child would have been?

THAT version is soooooo good.

JoshuaWho said:

I am a staunch believer that Prince ultimately needs no one to collaborate with and I am rarely excited about it. But every time I cue up "Why Should I Love You" I have fantasies about what an album by Prince and Kate would be like. David Bowie is probably the only other artist with the capability and legendary status to be considered as a Prince collaborator (or the Prince version of collaboration) in my dreams.

UK - BBC Four Doc on Kate Bush Story ....tune in ! Now Didn't know she was signed at 16 Years Old?