How far is the performance on SNL expected to impact AOA and PE sales?

Any historial analysis for Prince and other artists after such mainstream appearances?

Thanks in advance.

Not sure guess we wil see next week.

AOA is out of the TOP 50 in U.S. and World Wide charts.

AOA still hasn't passed the 200k mark world wide where U2 album sold over 250,000 in 2 weeks, even though it had a dismal 23k debut in the U.S. charts.

PE fell off the charts long ago and will not pass 75,000 in total sales...

armybrat said:

How far is the performance on SNL expected to impact AOA and PE sales?

Eh...

Was this a promotional effort?!

You tell us only now?!

If this is his AOA/PE promo, then WB is even worse (at this time) as I see no PR promo (yet).

In the US AOA and PE were out of the Top 200 on iTunes.

After the performance the albums are now at #34 (AOA) and #118 (PE)...

It will have an impact, but i think not that much...

I still don`t know why they did not release a song to radio...

But i think it will have an impact if he will announce a US tour in the next weeks

It can greatly impact returns.

KaresB said:

It can greatly impact returns.

What can one return after a download?

There was a small attempt from Apple right after the performance to get people to go to ITUNES/SNL or something like that. You would think Warner Bros would at least run an ad for AOA/PlectrumElectrum but whatever Prince is a millionaire and doesn't care about money obviously. So why should we care?

feeluupp said:

Not sure guess we wil see next week.

AOA is out of the TOP 50 in U.S. and World Wide charts.

AOA still hasn't passed the 200k mark world wide where U2 album sold over 250,000 in 2 weeks, even though it had a dismal 23k debut in the U.S. charts.

PE fell off the charts long ago and will not pass 75,000 in total sales...

Remember the U2 album was given away for free, so even people who don't like U2 won't pass up a free listen. A little misleading.

It's certainly had some impact. Right now on iTunds PE is in the #6 rock albums and AOA is the #2 R&B album

AOA up to 35 on US Amazon charts, up 22 spots from last night.

PE up about 130 spots, last night was at 197 and up to 66 this AM.

Temporarily awareness has been brought to the CDs. Two things must happen now. More copies need to be sent to stores because it has been hard to find at most stores. And a radio single needs to be released immediately.

iTunes US up to #25 AOA and #54 PE

joyinrepetition said:

feeluupp said:

Not sure guess we wil see next week.

AOA is out of the TOP 50 in U.S. and World Wide charts.

AOA still hasn't passed the 200k mark world wide where U2 album sold over 250,000 in 2 weeks, even though it had a dismal 23k debut in the U.S. charts.

PE fell off the charts long ago and will not pass 75,000 in total sales...

Remember the U2 album was given away for free, so even people who don't like U2 won't pass up a free listen. A little misleading.

But it didn't count as sales... U2 sold 250,000 copies world wide where as AOA still hasn't passed the 200,000 mark in it's 4th week.

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

AOA still is under the 200K mark but can reach Gold with more promotion, hopefully the SNL performance and the #1 world wide trending on Twitter will give some more light to both albums.

feeluupp said:

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

AOA still is under the 200K mark but can reach Gold with more promotion, hopefully the SNL performance and the #1 world wide trending on Twitter will give some more light to both albums.

Please go post this on twitter so i can tell you to STFU without fear of banishment..lol..just kidding

feeluupp said:

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

It doesn't work like that when you're not an artist who's played on the radio. The bulk of the rest of the establish musician world sell when they go on tour.

feeluupp said:

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

AOA still is under the 200K mark but can reach Gold with more promotion, hopefully the SNL performance and the #1 world wide trending on Twitter will give some more light to both albums.

And those floppers, havew mfersd standing in line in the fucking cold all through Toronto for a concert that will sell all available txts in minutes..when yuou can do that, who ghives a shit baout the above..btw , i am not tryng to sound positve

feeluupp said:

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

AOA still is under the 200K mark but can reach Gold with more promotion, hopefully the SNL performance and the #1 world wide trending on Twitter will give some more light to both albums.

Lastly, it cant be a flop if it outperformed 99% of the other cd's released this year, if you want to talk pure numbers...an estimated 60000 to 70000 new cd';s released each year in USA

[Edited 11/4/14 10:25am]

When you receive substantial media promotion but are beaten in sales by an old band who also gave their album away for free, thats a disaster whichever way you spin it.

When you can't outsell some of your own obscure independent releases, you know your hardcore fan base has seriously dried up.

Like most great artists, P has crossed over that line where he is no longer relevant will only shift volumes of greatest hits and concert tickets.

I don't have a problem with that. I'd rather have another Plectrum Electrum than Musicology.

I think P should stop chasing the mainstream and look to gain his income from writing for others and touring the historically profitable areas.

SquirrelMeat said:

When you receive substantial media promotion but are beaten in sales by an old band who also gave their album away for free, thats a disaster whichever way you spin it.

When you can't outsell some of your own obscure independent releases, you know your hardcore fan base has seriously dried up.

Like most great artists, P has crossed over that line where he is no longer relevant will only shift volumes of greatest hits and concert tickets.

I don't have a problem with that. I'd rather have another Plectrum Electrum than Musicology.

I think P should stop chasing the mainstream and look to gain his income from writing for others and touring the historically profitable areas.

he doing that..U2 btw has been a text book rock band in regard to safe play; of course they gonna move more

lwr001 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

When you receive substantial media promotion but are beaten in sales by an old band who also gave their album away for free, thats a disaster whichever way you spin it.

When you can't outsell some of your own obscure independent releases, you know your hardcore fan base has seriously dried up.

Like most great artists, P has crossed over that line where he is no longer relevant will only shift volumes of greatest hits and concert tickets.

I don't have a problem with that. I'd rather have another Plectrum Electrum than Musicology.

I think P should stop chasing the mainstream and look to gain his income from writing for others and touring the historically profitable areas.

he doing that..U2 btw has been a text book rock band in regard to safe play; of course they gonna move more

But when they still shift more having already given it away to 5 million people, thats trouble.

SquirrelMeat said:

lwr001 said:

he doing that..U2 btw has been a text book rock band in regard to safe play; of course they gonna move more

But when they still shift more having already given it away to 5 million people, thats trouble.

cant really be trouble when he got thousands of folks standing in line as we speak in the cold for as how that wont start for hours..

I mean this is a guy who moved 1.5 million units in one day..he set..this dont matter

SquirrelMeat said:

lwr001 said:

he doing that..U2 btw has been a text book rock band in regard to safe play; of course they gonna move more

But when they still shift more having already given it away to 5 million people, thats trouble.

Matter of fact the only ones concerned about it are the folks on here who's lives and rent depends on its performance

feeluupp said:

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

But when they still shift more having already given it away to 5 million people, thats trouble.

cant really be trouble when he got thousands of folks standing in line as we speak in the cold for as how that wont start for hours..

I mean this is a guy who moved 1.5 million units in one day..he set..this dont matter

I agree. I'm not fussed about sales. I don't see why some are so obsessed by it. It tends to be a U.S. thing. Stats stats stats.

Personally, the less popular he is, the more chance I have to see him in smaller shows. He's probably better off touring the world for a remaining 10 years, playing the 2-4000 capacity venues at premium ticket prices.

In global current relevence, and certainly music sales, he's more Neil Diamond than Foo Fighters.

SquirrelMeat said:

lastdecember said:

lwr001 said:

he doing that..U2 btw has been a text book rock band in regard to safe play; of course they gonna move more

Sorry but they are not a safe text book rock band, don't confuse U2 with Bon Jovi, there was nothing text book about this band from Achtung Baby to albums like Zooropa and Pop. Sorry but those records are not text book rock please.

not as far as sound goes, i mean as far as they dont cause no waves, they do promtion like they should etc,, they play the game

SquirrelMeat said:

lwr001 said:

cant really be trouble when he got thousands of folks standing in line as we speak in the cold for as how that wont start for hours..

I mean this is a guy who moved 1.5 million units in one day..he set..this dont matter

I agree. I'm not fussed about sales. I don't see why some are so obsessed by it. It tends to be a U.S. thing. Stats stats stats.

Personally, the less popular he is, the more chance I have to see him in smaller shows. He's probably better off touring the world for a remaining 10 years, playing the 2-4000 capacity venues at premium ticket prices.

In global current relevence, and certainly music sales, he's more Neil Diamond than Foo Fighters.

Lidsten Mf'ers arent standing in the rain or cold to see no Neil Diamoind

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

feeluupp said:

Like I've said before and not trying to sound negative... But PE has lost it's momentum it was a flop commercially, regardless of the slump in sales in the industry. Even with this performance there is little grace to boost this album, it won't surpass 75,000 sales world wide making it his 2nd lowest selling album ever behind N.E.W.S.

AOA still is under the 200K mark but can reach Gold with more promotion, hopefully the SNL performance and the #1 world wide trending on Twitter will give some more light to both albums.

Lastly, it cant be a flop if it outperformed 99% of the other cd's released this year, if you want to talk pure numbers...an estimated 60000 to 70000 new cd';s released each year in USA

[Edited 11/4/14 10:25am]

That's not true. If you have been keeping up with the charts both US. and World Wide charts. AOA and PE fall off the charts a lot quicker than other artists like Maroon 5, Chris Brown etc... Where there numbers are not impressive but still sell at a regular pace week after week after week.