One possible scenario, perhaps not the most likely one, is that all remastered albums will be dropped at once or in quick successive order.

At least one album at a time sounds most reasonable after 30 years.

The silence, on the other hand, when it comes to WB announcing, perhaps promoting even, these releases is a bit underwhelming.

I mean: what is a typical lead time for a remaster release like this one?

How early before the actual release is advertising etc in full swing?

How early before Christmas do the discs hit the stores?

I.o.w.: shouldn't we have seen or heard more by now or is there still time for a Christmas 2014 release?

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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Its a shame that those albums arent available on itunes, they arent on spotify either. No wonder ppl download music for free if they cant even find the albums where there should be available. Im curious if Prince has a plan for his pos-warner albums?

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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Because he didn't put'em there. WB had put those albums before the remasters reversal and they remained there, it's up to to put the others.

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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That is one of the main reasons created his NPGMusicPublishing company. So he can control the publishing rights to ALL of his albums. So I'm sure he is working on having them all available now. So he can reap the total profit and administered rights to EVERYTHING!!!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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That is one of the main reasons created his NPGMusicPublishing company.

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Incredible. Wrong on all counts.

udo said:

One possible scenario, perhaps not the most likely one, is that all remastered albums will be dropped at once or in quick successive order.

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That would be massively stupid, since the cost of such would be through the roof.

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

One possible scenario, perhaps not the most likely one, is that all remastered albums will be dropped at once or in quick successive order.

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That would be massively stupid, since the cost of such would be through the roof.

- they are going to press the discs anyway over time

- the releases are not that big for remasters these days, machines are idling...

- it has been a while

- I wrote 'not the most likely one'

BartVanHemelen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is one of the main reasons created his NPGMusicPublishing company.

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Incredible. Wrong on all counts.

Who made U school teacher of the org?

Well, if remasters was the issue, then why is it only these albums are off itunes? Must be something else....it's a shame the rainbow children isn't there. and crystal ball. and emancipation. wish we had some apple insider here, or someone who follows the itunes business...

Funkyalien said:

Well, if remasters was the issue, then why is it only these albums are off itunes? Must be something else....it's a shame the rainbow children isn't there. and crystal ball. and emancipation. wish we had some apple insider here, or someone who follows the itunes business...

I've answered your question 6 replies above.

databank said:

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that? I think having these abums in itunes would have benefited prince a lot. So any opinions on why they aren't there?

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Because he didn't put'em there. WB had put those albums before the remasters reversal and they remained there, it's up to to put the others.

I swear peeps on here are so clueless! It's obvious! O( > doesn't want those albums on Itunes yet. That he has a higher plan on what he plans to do. Which I still feel is connected to his NPGMusicPublishing Company & ownership of his Masters(even though he already owns them)

. He has a MASTER plan!!! He has so many lost albums, out of print & unavailable. So much more income to earn from them.

BartVanHemelen said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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That would be massively stupid, since the cost of such would be through the roof.

Bob Dylan did exactly this. He (or rather Columbia Records) released The Complete Album Collection last year. 42 titles, all of them remastered. Can't remember how much it cost, but at least it wasn't so expensive that it stopped me from buying it. So it can be done.

Yes, I was also wondering what WB would do with the back catalogue once the remastered issues are released.

Will they still press the unremasterd CD's?

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If not then it is a nono.

But that depends on price and thus the amount of discs.

SuperSoulFighter said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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That would be massively stupid, since the cost of such would be through the roof.

Bob Dylan did exactly this. He (or rather Columbia Records) released The Complete Album Collection last year. 42 titles, all of them remastered. Can't remember how much it cost, but at least it wasn't so expensive that it stopped me from buying it. So it can be done.

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Different artist, different audience. Plus: there had been Dylan remasters before, even on SACD IIRC.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Incredible. Wrong on all counts.

Who made U school teacher of the org?

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The simple fact that your respons is a childish insult instead of an actual logical argument tells me everything I need to know.

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P has always had control over his publishing, even when it was handled by Warner-Chappell. That is a FACT. This has got NOTHING to do with why his post-WB albums aren't on iTunes.

BartVanHemelen said:

The simple fact that your respons is a childish insult instead of an actual logical argument tells me everything I need to know.

Something you can NEVER be accused of, of course...

BartVanHemelen said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Who made U school teacher of the org?

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The simple fact that your respons is a childish insult instead of an actual logical argument tells me everything I need to know.

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P has always had control over his publishing, even when it was handled by Warner-Chappell. That is a FACT. This has got NOTHING to do with why his post-WB albums aren't on iTunes.

I know ALWAYS had control of his publishing! But he never administered them himself b 4. That is what I mean, when I say he has complete CONTROL of them. He has taken his publishing over COMPLETELY! Also it could have a lot to do with why his post wb albums aren't on itunes,if he has a master plan 4 all his albums. He never really liked Itunes anyway...

Calling U a school teacher is not a childish insult! It's EXACTLY how U act & treat everyone on here. Reprimanding all of us like we are children!!!!

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williamb610 said:

Not to rain on your parade, whoever made this thread...but I already pointed this out over a month ago.

That is all!

No rain. Didn't see it. That is all.

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that?

It's because Prince has always owned the copyright to those sound recordings, instead of his recorded WB material (which he only owns by now).

Prince believes itunes should pay him more. He made a comment on that before, about them not being willing to pay him what he wants.

This issue is related to, but different from publishing rights. The latter are the copyrights to the songs musical compositions and lyrics. Those are different copyrights than the copyrights to the sound recordings, i.e the recordings of those songs/ "the masters".

Prince has always owned the publishing rights to the songs he created. But not the masters of the sound recordings he created for WB Records. He only owns those now, since their settlement deal.

BartVanHemelen said:

Hello. How r u. U're Lookin so fine, no- it's true...

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There is a band called YES that is not just "remastering" the catalogue, they are remixing and remasternig. I don't mean remix like "bonus tack remix" remix... I mean knowing what we know now, these tapes are being taken, remixed (track levels, EQ, soundstage, etc) and then mastered, not brick walled but with proper dynamic range.

The goal: Band invovlement, the original sound goal with all that love, taste, and vibe and NOT some BS remaster. They want you to hear Everything. It's like vinyl for your digital ears,

They release Close To The Edge 3 Ways last year:

-New Mix Stereo CD

-DVD-A New Mix 5.1 + New Mix Stereo

and (holy grail)

-A Blu-Ray + New Mix Sereo CD with:

New 5.1 Mix

New Stereo (on the blu-ray, four audio formats)

Original Master & Mix

UK Vinyl Needledrop

Bonus things everywhere

The new mix/master is AMAZING. It kicks the crap out of the Vinyl from the 70's or CDs and remasters that have come before. Dynamic range is flying around like no one's business and I ...it's so... CLEAR. And any mix changes seem damn well like the right ones not "weird". The point was clean it, keep the original spirit, just bring it back from the dead, not just turn up and call it a remaster. I've never been so impressed.

YES seems to be doing it for every album now that Close To The Edge went so well. The Beatles I think start the same in 2015. You don't want "remasters from Prince", you want Remixed & Remastered as long as it is in this vein. And I think Prince knows it. It just takes more time to do it right and I am sure Steve Wilson or whoever they get is working on it.

YES was so confident they went: That's right this new mix is so good and will make you feel like you just found it for the first time that we will even give you the original master AND a needle drop just so you can compare. (and fun bonuses to have)

If Prince just turns it up, I will actually boycott that crap. Prince, if you aren't sure go ask YES & Paul McCartney what they think of their Remixed & Remastered.

PS the hgih-res 24bit stuff people on the net are selling lately. NOT this. NOT close or in this galaxy.

Have patience with Prince. You think YES is hard to work with....

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Embrace said:

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that?

It's because Prince has always owned the copyright to those sound recordings, instead of his recorded WB material (which he only owns by now).

Prince believes itunes should pay him more. He made a comment on that before, about them not being willing to pay him what he wants.

This issue is related to, but different from publishing rights. The latter are the copyrights to the songs musical compositions and lyrics. Those are different copyrights than the copyrights to the sound recordings, i.e the recordings of those songs/ "the masters".

Prince has always owned the publishing rights to the songs he created. But not the masters of the sound recordings he created for WB Records. He only owns those now, since their settlement deal.

Thanks for the reply. So I take it he has no problem with the payments itunes is giving him for the WB albums? Dirty mind is cheaper than planet earth on itunes, hahahhaha.....

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Embrace said:

Funkyalien said:

Can someone please tell me why itunes does not have any of the "independent era" Prince albums? The itunes prince corner is very poor, imo, there's no lotus flower, no emancipation, no crystal ball, no new power soul, no N.E.W.S, no nothing. why is that?

It's because Prince has always owned the copyright to those sound recordings, instead of his recorded WB material (which he only owns by now).

Prince believes itunes should pay him more. He made a comment on that before, about them not being willing to pay him what he wants.

This issue is related to, but different from publishing rights. The latter are the copyrights to the songs musical compositions and lyrics. Those are different copyrights than the copyrights to the sound recordings, i.e the recordings of those songs/ "the masters".

Prince has always owned the publishing rights to the songs he created. But not the masters of the sound recordings he created for WB Records. He only owns those now, since their settlement deal.

Thanks for the reply. So I take it he has no problem with the payments itunes is giving him for the WB albums? IMO, dirty mind is cheaper than planet earth, hahahhaha.....