'Selfish performer'... yep, will never understand this attitude.

Oh, no, poor people, having to hear music they've never heard before.

Why is it people can only stand hearing music they've heard before when they go to see a 'pop' star?

I'd hate to see these people at a jazz gig.

I wish I had gotten to see Neil Young when he just performed the new album on the Greendale tour.

Would have been fantastic.

Why can't we treat these things as an experience, one that we've paid to have?

It's the same mentality as those who have to video the gig on their phones, have to take pictures, have to hear the songs they want, dammit, cos it's their special show and they paid for it dammit!

It's the fans who have the temper tamtrums, not the performers who decide to do something interesting with their show, rather than churning out the same old stuff.

TGE is not a great album but it has great singles, it's what makes Prince , well Prince? the weird stuff mixed with the Mainstream, RAP, ROCK, SOUL, FUNK, Electronic, Blues, POP, Jazz, Country, Gospel a blend of styles no other artist alive could do...the haven't got his voice/range and music mojo and then put it on one album ? Crazy but he does it better than anyone -

Shy to Endorphinmachine - who does that? is he rapping or is it hip-hop or ryhme or rock, singing or pop, latin styles, the layers are crazy!! vocal choir ...church

Prince is to big an artist to fit on a single CD, He starts with Pussy Control (Snoop Dog hooks - Beyonce using hooks - Samples - 80's electronic) and ends with Gold (Church - echo, Gospel, - Rock 80's Guitar solo in the middle, harp sound, na-na 60's beatles like chants, hymns - then a rap )?

who does that?

It always felt like Diamonds & Pearls part II. Good batch of songs, but nothing terribly profound. Everything is on the surface, meaning it's missing the "huh?" factor, for better or worse. It was a disappointment to think that it was what he considered freedom--something reaffirmed upon Emancipation's release

V10LETBLUES said:

Aerogram said:

V10LETBLUES said: Most people who come out with overrated this and that vastly overrate their own musical taste. It's a way to say you disagree with the norm while seeking to establish a new one based on your own supposedly superior musical taste buds. Next!

You're confusing the few people who still visit the org with "most people"

kind of a limited bubble there don't you think. Play the music to "most people" and then come here tell me what outcome is ...lol

"Most people" most likely wouldn't get what's so great about an album like Dirty Mind, Parade or Lovesexy either.

It's kind of weird to see someone here use the "most people" argument when anyone that's been into Prince for years should be aware that most people don't care about his music and a very large percentage of those that do not like him even outright hate him.

KingSausage said:

skywalker said:

There's a boot called Open Sessions that has some KILLER Paisley shows from that era.

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This one is one of the best shows: http://www.princevault.co...t,_1995-am

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Fantastic version of "Days Of Wild", and then he does "In Time". Magnificent.

I've tried to look at TGE from a distance, to evaluate the quality of the songs etc., but I can't. That record is just too much tied in to that period when Prince started to feel exciting again after years of bland commercialism and other disappointments.

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I still recall hearing that new music back in early 1994 when he had sent a DAT to European radio stations. There was this spark of freshness, of self-belief, that had been lacking for so long.

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TGE isn't a classic, in part because it lacks "Days Of Wild". It's a gorram shame that track was removed and instead we got "We March", a horrible track that sounds like it belongs on Emancipation. TGE was also released far too late, it has those cheesy segues, it is too loud, some tracks have superior versions to the album versions,... So much potential for a far superior album.

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And yet I still think it is the last time we really saw Prince. That whole era has given me so much music (released and unreleased) that I cannot dislike. I find it almost incredible that he was already working on the dire Emancipation in 1995.

the gold experience overrated ?...no...not for me...if anything...its underated...prince was having another creative peak similar to the mid 80s while he was making this album...he was bursting with ideas..i agree the album we eventually got isn't perfect but it could have been a classic prince album..

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as bart has already mentioned some of them..days of wild and interactive should have been on the album..i would have binned we march and pussy control...the album is too loud (for whatever reason)..should have been the original version of the amazing endorphin machine instead of the cowbell version we got..

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prince was on fire when he was making this album...if it had been released properly..it would be up there with his great albums...

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shhh

endorphin machine

days of wild

dolphin

shy

i hate u

gold

all brilliant prince songs ...overrated..no..i think its underrated if anything.

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BartVanHemelen said:

BartVanHemelen said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I've tried to look at TGE from a distance, to evaluate the quality of the songs etc., but I can't. That record is just too much tied in to that period when Prince started to feel exciting again after years of bland commercialism and other disappointments.

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I still recall hearing that new music back in early 1994 when he had sent a DAT to European radio stations. There was this spark of freshness, of self-belief, that had been lacking for so long.

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TGE isn't a classic, in part because it lacks "Days Of Wild". It's a gorram shame that track was removed and instead we got "We March", a horrible track that sounds like it belongs on Emancipation. TGE was also released far too late, it has those cheesy segues, it is too loud, some tracks have superior versions to the album versions,... So much potential for a far superior album.

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And yet I still think it is the last time we really saw Prince. That whole era has given me so much music (released and unreleased) that I cannot dislike. I find it almost incredible that he was already working on the dire Emancipation in 1995.

I often wonder how good Emancipation could have been if he stuck with the band/sound/production of 93-95. I think there's a lot of good songs on it but they suffer with the plastic RNB lite Kirky J production. The difference in Saviour - which has that classic NPG 95 sound compared to the likes of Emancipation (the track) which sounds awful, is like night and day.

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The tour at that time was among the best for me. I went to pretty much every UK gig and there was always something different thrown in. B-sides and rarities.

I remember one of the final dates overhearing the girl next to me say to her boyfriend - "well I only knew Purple Rain & you didn't seem to know many more but that girl next to me? well she knew them all."... Made me smile all the way home.

I still have bags full of the gold confetti in the loft somewhere

KingSausage said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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This one is one of the best shows: http://www.princevault.co...t,_1995-am

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Fantastic version of "Days Of Wild", and then he does "In Time". Magnificent.

Damn, that set list looks fantastic. I don't think that's on Open Sessions, though it's been a while since I listened to it. Did that show ever leak out in a widespread way? (Note to mods: I'm not asking where to find it.)

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Yup.

BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

thedance said:

Brilliant album.

Best Prince-album of the 90s. If only Prince could make music like that again...

Come - Exodus - The Gold Experience - what a fantastic trio.

Sign O The Times is brilliant.

If Eye Was Ur Girlfriend is brilliant.

Adore is brilliant.

TGE good, not bad, not brilliant.

Pussy Control not brilliant.

We March not brilliant.

A brilliant album must have brilliant songs.

"Shhhh" & "I hate u" are brilliant songs IMO

still remember the feeling I had when he performed "Interactive & Endorphinmachine"on the VH1 Honors show in June of 1994................recorded it on VHS and watched it over and over and over and over and over and got goosebumps almost every time

Hell, no.

SquirrelMeat said:

^ A agree about Days of Wild TGE doesn't suffer because it wasn't included. The studio track is dull when compared to the live performances.