One of the few things i have never heard and don't own.

Were they any good? how do they compare to his other work?

riocoolnes said:

One of the few things i have never heard and don't own.

Were they any good? how do they compare to his other work?

They were basically compilations of both previously released and unreleased material with a few songs by other acts and many spoken interludes, some of them quite odd or funny. It was lotsa fun at the time 4 me to have those, but the main interest was really the previoulsy unreleased songs, lotsa live stuff which was great because save the video releases there was almost no live stuff officially available at the time, a few rehearsals tracks and some hide and seek games such as those versions of The Stick and Pop My Clutch that were almost identical to the album versions except if u listened closely there were a few very discreet sounds added to them. Some studio tracks were also released only in that context, never made available in any other way. I remember editing out everything that wasn't Prince or previously unreleased and making a 4-CD compilation with only the interludes and unreleased songs. U can find the detailed tracklists on Princevault: http://www.princevault.co...s_(Prince)

God I had such a ball with NPGMC in 2001, it really broke my heart when announced the original formula was put to an end after only a year

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It was like a radio show with a host DJ. Music, Interludes / seuges, station identifications

Sometimes a mix of tracks, no dj
From released, unreleased, live, Alts, remixes, rehearsals, proteges, you name it

As to were they any good?
Sure they were. Some were better than others.

FragileUndertow said:

It was like a radio show with a host DJ. Music, Interludes / seuges, station identifications

In fact they reminded me of an old bootleg I have of a broadcast of Prince, Cat, Ingrid and maybe Levi taking over a radio broadcast. They played some of their own music (some unreleased) and tracks they liked of other artists. IIRC, they even "touched up" some of the other artists songs. For example, I think they added a bass line to a Janet Jackson track?? Maybe added some instruments to Sly Stone's Sex Machine?

I dunno, been a long time since I listened to that boot. Point being, it was very similar to some of the Ahdio Shows. There were even some fake commercials. Prince showed off his sense of humor on both too, I believe. I think that boot was called New Power Generation Radio and was from a broacast in, I want to say, 1989?

Good times...

djThunderfunk said:

FragileUndertow said:

It was like a radio show with a host DJ. Music, Interludes / seuges, station identifications

I have of a broadcast of Prince, Cat, Ingrid and maybe Levi taking over a radio broadcast.
I recorded this off the radio on cassette tape in 92

There were even some fake commercials. Prince showed off his sense of humor on both too,
The Morris day Cool Brothers Unlimited commercial..zip snap and drop. I remember thinking how cool was this

I believe. I think that boot was called New Power Generation Radio and was from a broacast in, I want to say, 1989?

Good times...

Yeah i think it was 89. I never got a full copy of that boot or show. but i have parts of the show on mp3

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Se7en said:

The Ahdio Transmission for September 2001 was comprised of all spiritual and uplifting songs in the wake of 9/11. I took that as Prince's "response" to what had happened.

djThunderfunk said:

FragileUndertow said:

It was like a radio show with a host DJ. Music, Interludes / seuges, station identifications

In fact they reminded me of an old bootleg I have of a broadcast of Prince, Cat, Ingrid and maybe Levi taking over a radio broadcast. They played some of their own music (some unreleased) and tracks they liked of other artists. IIRC, they even "touched up" some of the other artists songs. For example, I think they added a bass line to a Janet Jackson track?? Maybe added some instruments to Sly Stone's Sex Machine?

I dunno, been a long time since I listened to that boot. Point being, it was very similar to some of the Ahdio Shows. There were even some fake commercials. Prince showed off his sense of humor on both too, I believe. I think that boot was called New Power Generation Radio and was from a broacast in, I want to say, 1989?

Good times...

It was this: http://www.princevault.co...Radio_Show

They speak over some non-Prince tracks but I don't recall them toying with them musically, I'll have to pay a closer listen and check this out

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

In fact they reminded me of an old bootleg I have of a broadcast of Prince, Cat, Ingrid and maybe Levi taking over a radio broadcast. They played some of their own music (some unreleased) and tracks they liked of other artists. IIRC, they even "touched up" some of the other artists songs. For example, I think they added a bass line to a Janet Jackson track?? Maybe added some instruments to Sly Stone's Sex Machine?

I dunno, been a long time since I listened to that boot. Point being, it was very similar to some of the Ahdio Shows. There were even some fake commercials. Prince showed off his sense of humor on both too, I believe. I think that boot was called New Power Generation Radio and was from a broacast in, I want to say, 1989?

Good times...

It was this: http://www.princevault.co...Radio_Show

They speak over some non-Prince tracks but I don't recall them toying with them musically, I'll have to pay a closer listen and check this out

That's the one.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

It was this: http://www.princevault.co...Radio_Show

They speak over some non-Prince tracks but I don't recall them toying with them musically, I'll have to pay a closer listen and check this out

That's the one.

Of note is the fact that it countains work in progress versions of Miss Thang and Overnight, Every Night.

One could argue that Prince invented the Podcast. I don't know if any other artist was doing this kinda thing in a downloadable format before.

Se7en said:

One could argue that Prince invented the Podcast. I don't know if any other artist was doing this kinda thing in a downloadable format before.

Invented maybe not but he was part of it from the very beginning of podcasts as we know them today: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...podcasting

I have the 1989 radio show by Prince and related artists as hosts - on a vinyl 3LP:

Tracks played by Prince includes:

James Brown

Grace Jones
Kate Bush
INXS

Janet Jackson
Jimi Hendrix,
Tracy Chapman
Joni Mitchell,
Sade(?)
and more,

Plus something from The Black Album (Le Grind?), and also The Scandalous Extended version, (IIRC).

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databank said:

Se7en said:

One could argue that Prince invented the Podcast. I don't know if any other artist was doing this kinda thing in a downloadable format before.

Invented maybe not but he was part of it from the very beginning of podcasts as we know them today: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...podcasting

Agreed - pioneered (or was one of the pioneers) but then he quickly abandoned the idea. I for one think it was a great format for him . . . maybe not a monthly download model, but maybe yearly? Think about it, an hour long Ahdio show . . . 45-50 minutes of new/alternate music 10-15 minutes maybe with spoken word recap of the year and/or commentary on the tracks.

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Garth Brooks started a download service that competes with iTunes called Ghost Tunes and of course his own music is the cornerstone of that new service. In a lot of ways, Prince was toying with this idea with NPGMC and even moreseo with the Musicology Store. Another "pioneering" moment for Prince -- which of course 10 years later now every band sells music on their own sites.

Se7en said:

databank said:

Invented maybe not but he was part of it from the very beginning of podcasts as we know them today: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...podcasting

Agreed - pioneered (or was one of the pioneers) but then he quickly abandoned the idea. I for one think it was a great format for him . . . maybe not a monthly download model, but maybe yearly? Think about it, an hour long Ahdio show . . . 45-50 minutes of new/alternate music 10-15 minutes maybe with spoken word recap of the year and/or commentary on the tracks.

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Garth Brooks started a download service that competes with iTunes called Ghost Tunes and of course his own music is the cornerstone of that new service. In a lot of ways, Prince was toying with this idea with NPGMC and even moreseo with the Musicology Store. Another "pioneering" moment for Prince -- which of course 10 years later now every band sells music on their own sites.

I'm still convinced that a gigantic online store where would sell his back catalogue as well as a decent amount of vault live and studio material, and even maybe material he gave for others and doesn't own but that could be licenced to the online store by the labels that own the masters would be not only a profitable venture but also a magnificent testimony of his legacy.

databank said:

I'm still convinced that a gigantic online store where would sell his back catalogue as well as a decent amount of vault live and studio material, and even maybe material he gave for others and doesn't own but that could be licenced to the online store by the labels that own the masters would be not only a profitable venture but also a magnificent testimony of his legacy.

As long as he hires professionals with a fair customer service department, then, YES! That would be awesome.

djThunderfunk said:

databank said:

I'm still convinced that a gigantic online store where would sell his back catalogue as well as a decent amount of vault live and studio material, and even maybe material he gave for others and doesn't own but that could be licenced to the online store by the labels that own the masters would be not only a profitable venture but also a magnificent testimony of his legacy.

As long as he hires professionals with a fair customer service department, then, YES! That would be awesome.

I wish he come on with it

paisleypark4 said:

djThunderfunk said:

As long as he hires professionals with a fair customer service department, then, YES! That would be awesome.

I wish he come on with it

According to several Org members, Alan Leeds said that Prince did not have legal rights to release o his own any material recorded during the WB years (even unreleased stuff). If that was the case, then it would make a whole lot of sense why a project like that never happened.

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Now that Prince is "back" with WB, it really would make sense to start opening the Vault and capitalize on his current popularity. And, if it was run by them, it would be very professionally handled.