I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

kenkamken said:

I think it's cool that every direction you look, Prince is collaborating with some incredible females... Janelle, Erykah, Rita, 3rdeye Girl, Lianne, Golden Hippie, Andy, and probably others I'm forgetting. It's like he's in hyper overdrive, go Prince! These ladies are spurring him into greater productivity and creative outut.

greater productivity meaning.... he just took his longest ever gap between albums?

[Edited 10/13/14 5:18am]

Rebeljuice said:

I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

I fail to understand how one could believe the original is shit, not like it OK but believe it is shit????Hell...

Anyway I though about this, too, besides the album title being borrowed from De La Soul, I also thought immediately of the QUEEN video and tha whole Archandroid concept.

databank said:

I fail to understand how one could believe the original is shit, not like it OK but believe it is shit????Hell...

Luckily for me I dont use your opinion to form my musical taste.

Rebeljuice said:

I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

Don't you have some paper clips to straighten? It's a better use of your time than to write bored posts about things you don't care for.

Aerogram said:

Don't you have some paper clips to straighten? It's a better use of your time than to write bored posts about things you don't care for.

Luckily for me I dont use your basis of time to determine my better use of it.

A lot of people picked up on the sci-fi gibblets on AOA as being influenced by Janelle, I think it's a fair, and good, guess.

Aerogram said:

Rebeljuice said:

I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

Don't you have some paper clips to straighten? It's a better use of your time than to write bored posts about things you don't care for.

Don't you have better things to do than give comments in threads that you dislike? You could ignore them.

Rebeljuice said:

I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

What makes you think it's Josh rather than Prince? He (Prince) seemed to be really into Janelle Monae's music. Electric Lady is a superb album. Prince was a colaborator on EL. Granted the mix seems more dance oriented but Prince has made dance music in the past too.

People seem to be under the impression Josh is basically doing everything these days. However nothing seems to have been made that clear?

Rebeljuice said:

databank said:

I fail to understand how one could believe the original is shit, not like it OK but believe it is shit????Hell...

Luckily for me I dont use your opinion to form my musical taste.

Luckily for me I enjoy it and unluckily for you u don't: between one enjoying a pleasurable experience and one not doing so I am inclided to think the first one is the lucky one but that wasn't my point really. I believe people are usually way over their head when they attempt to evaluate the quality of a work of art. I don't know you so I don't know about you, but I found out that way too many people just don't have a clue what they're talking about. Expressing taste is a thing, it's entirely relative to one's personal experience and cannot be questioned. Saying something is good or "shit" is another thing entirely. You did not express a personal taste, you expressed a personal judgement about the supposed quality of the song, without any theorical justification I might add. So if you want to express a personal experience use sentences such as "I like/I don't like", not "I think it is this or that", because while the "I think" part of your sentence implies that you are inclined to accept different opinions, it doesn't change the fact that you are not speaking about a matter of "taste" but of "theoretical qualitative evaluation". Now maybe this is what you meant to do in the first place but then it was errounous to bring the notion of "personal taste" in the discussion when the clarity of your judgement was being questioned, it's either "this" or "that".

Peace

Noodled24 said:

Rebeljuice said:

I know this was discussed here http://prince.org/msg/7/398849

What I thought was slightly interesting (in a Im-bored-at-work-and-have-nothing-better-to-do kind of way) was that Josh did the remix (apparently) and if you listen to the original (video) there is whole lot of babble at the start including stuff about suspended animation.

I wonder if this is where the seeds for Prince's concept for AOA were sewn...

You can watch the original video here with all the babble at the beginning and some info about the remix by Prince (AKA Joshua Welton). http://pitchfork.com/news...ykah-badu/

Incidently, I think the song is shit. The remix is pretty crap too.

What makes you think it's Josh rather than Prince? He (Prince) seemed to be really into Janelle Monae's music. Electric Lady is a superb album. Prince was a colaborator on EL. Granted the mix seems more dance oriented but Prince has made dance music in the past too.

People seem to be under the impression Josh is basically doing everything these days. However nothing seems to have been made that clear?

Apparently, Prince was quite involved in Janelle's record -- read "more than for one song". As soon as I knew the Art Official Age concept, I figured it was in part from Janelle's influence -- a good thing. Note that what I just said doesn't belittle anyone's contribution or motives.

Take the other point of view now: there's a remix of Janelle's song, it must be Josh's work with no Prince input. This time it's just an assumption that takes Prince out of the equation, just because of that flat-thinking that passes off as realism and objectivity.

Just because people look at things through world weary eyes doesn't mean they don't deform just as much as someone wearing rose-tinted glasses.

^

Fair play. I see from the other thread now Josh confirmed it was him on Twitter.

I'm just curious. Josh it seems is quicker than anyone in Princes history to take full credit for what he does. "Prince Remix" is kind of misleading though. PP Mix seems more fitting.

Looking back over the years, is there evidence Prince was responsible for all his own remixes? Or has this been a trend for a while. I know KirkyJ did a few while he was there.

Noodled24 said:

^

Fair play. I see from the other thread now Josh confirmed it was him on Twitter.

I'm just curious. Josh it seems is quicker than anyone in Princes history to take full credit for what he does. "Prince Remix" is kind of misleading though. PP Mix seems more fitting.

Looking back over the years, is there evidence Prince was responsible for all his own remixes? Or has this been a trend for a while. I know KirkyJ did a few while he was there.

which thread is that?

^This one:

http://prince.org/msg/7/398849


There is a source link there & a twitter screenshot

Noodled24 said:

^

Fair play. I see from the other thread now Josh confirmed it was him on Twitter.

I'm just curious. Josh it seems is quicker than anyone in Princes history to take full credit for what he does. "Prince Remix" is kind of misleading though. PP Mix seems more fitting.

Looking back over the years, is there evidence Prince was responsible for all his own remixes? Or has this been a trend for a while. I know KirkyJ did a few while he was there.

Im not so sure that Prince is really interested in remixes (well until AOA where he put at least one on his album). I think Prince would prefer to do a completely different arrangement to a song rather than remix a current arrangement. Could be wrong though. Im not sure all credits have been very clear regarding remixes over the years.

databank said:

Rebeljuice said:

Luckily for me I dont use your opinion to form my musical taste.

Luckily for me I enjoy it and unluckily for you u don't: between one enjoying a pleasurable experience and one not doing so I am inclided to think the first one is the lucky one but that wasn't my point really. I believe people are usually way over their head when they attempt to evaluate the quality of a work of art. I don't know you so I don't know about you, but I found out that way too many people just don't have a clue what they're talking about. Expressing taste is a thing, it's entirely relative to one's personal experience and cannot be questioned. Saying something is good or "shit" is another thing entirely. You did not express a personal taste, you expressed a personal judgement about the supposed quality of the song, without any theorical justification I might add. So if you want to express a personal experience use sentences such as "I like/I don't like", not "I think it is this or that", because while the "I think" part of your sentence implies that you are inclined to accept different opinions, it doesn't change the fact that you are not speaking about a matter of "taste" but of "theoretical qualitative evaluation". Now maybe this is what you meant to do in the first place but then it was errounous to bring the notion of "personal taste" in the discussion when the clarity of your judgement was being questioned, it's either "this" or "that".

Peace

Sorry, but policing how people phrase their opinions really is a waste of your own time. Do you talk like this in a face to face conversation? When a mate says a film was shit, do you embark on a holier than thou lesson or do you do what most people do and take what he said as opinion? Everything said by anyone regarding their like/dislike/hate for a peice of art can be taken as a point of view, aka an opinion.

You are merely arguing semantics and phrasing of the English language. Perhaps just take it as read that when someone says a song is the best, or a song is shit, that they are conveying their opinion. There is little point in banging on about how it is phrased. It is like you are on some sort of crusade with this and you have put yourself in the central role of being the all knowing, master of everything, looking down on the rest of us. Well, do me a favour, you can "look" me squarely in the eyes, on an equal level and presume that any expletive or praise I give anything, is stated as an (my) opinion and we can talk about the topic at hand instead of arguing about how I presented that opinion.

Anyway, no one died, no one got hurt and no one was persecuted. I got no beef with you and am not trying to create any animosity. Life goes on etc etc. Peace.

Rebeljuice said:

databank said:

Luckily for me I enjoy it and unluckily for you u don't: between one enjoying a pleasurable experience and one not doing so I am inclided to think the first one is the lucky one but that wasn't my point really. I believe people are usually way over their head when they attempt to evaluate the quality of a work of art. I don't know you so I don't know about you, but I found out that way too many people just don't have a clue what they're talking about. Expressing taste is a thing, it's entirely relative to one's personal experience and cannot be questioned. Saying something is good or "shit" is another thing entirely. You did not express a personal taste, you expressed a personal judgement about the supposed quality of the song, without any theorical justification I might add. So if you want to express a personal experience use sentences such as "I like/I don't like", not "I think it is this or that", because while the "I think" part of your sentence implies that you are inclined to accept different opinions, it doesn't change the fact that you are not speaking about a matter of "taste" but of "theoretical qualitative evaluation". Now maybe this is what you meant to do in the first place but then it was errounous to bring the notion of "personal taste" in the discussion when the clarity of your judgement was being questioned, it's either "this" or "that".

Peace

Sorry, but policing how people phrase their opinions really is a waste of your own time. Do you talk like this in a face to face conversation? When a mate says a film was shit, do you embark on a holier than thou lesson or do you do what most people do and take what he said as opinion? Everything said by anyone regarding their like/dislike/hate for a peice of art can be taken as a point of view, aka an opinion.

You are merely arguing semantics and phrasing of the English language. Perhaps just take it as read that when someone says a song is the best, or a song is shit, that they are conveying their opinion. There is little point in banging on about how it is phrased. It is like you are on some sort of crusade with this and you have put yourself in the central role of being the all knowing, master of everything, looking down on the rest of us. Well, do me a favour, you can "look" me squarely in the eyes, on an equal level and presume that any expletive or praise I give anything, is stated as an (my) opinion and we can talk about the topic at hand instead of arguing about how I presented that opinion.

Anyway, no one died, no one got hurt and no one was persecuted. I got no beef with you and am not trying to create any animosity. Life goes on etc etc. Peace.

I read ya, dude