BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

He did not "spend the summer bitching" and your diagnosis that the situation is due to PlectrumElectrum is just speculation. Yeah 're just continuing with the narrative you want. I don't call a remark here and there "spending the summer bitching" -- in any case, better a summer than nearly two decades.

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Inviting reporters every other weekend and bitching about not being able to reach WBR execs, holding listening parties in order to pressure the record company,... And then there's the recent interview where he once again is whining and moaning instead of celebrating two new releases.

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My narrative is based on the facts, yours is based on ignoring them.

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh, and while Prince was babbling about artists' rights, he was preventing Margie Cox and Jill Jones, too from releasing music.

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

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Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

BartVanHemelen said:

SoulAlive said:

I think one reason why Come is often regarded as "contractual filler" is because,at the time,Prince was clearly more excited about TGE.Come was a "Prince album" but in his view,Prince was dead.He was now more focused on recordings by his new name (the symbol).Plus,the Come CD was cheaply packaged,with a measly 10 tracks (mostly one-word titles)....the whole thing feels slapped together.

.

Prince also thinks so:

.

In interviews, Prince talked about the album as a contractual obligation to help fulfill his recording contract after his relationship with Warner Bros. had soured, and on a discography included on his NPG Music Club website years later, the album cover had a "Contractual Obligation" stamp overlaid. Additionally, Prince declined to use the NPG Records label for this release. Prince talked about material on the album as "old" and recorded before the name change, instead hyping The Gold Experience as his "new" material.

.

Of note is that the 11 March, 1994 configuration of the album, as submitted to Warner Bros., did not contain the title track. Warner Bros. responded by asking for Come and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World to be included, as well as two or three other strong tracks. Prince delivered the final version of the album on 19 May, 1994 (on the same day as delivering a configuration of The Gold Experience), having removed Interactive and Endorphinmachine (which he reasoned were recorded by , not Prince, and were included on The Gold Experience instead), but with the newly-recorded track Letitgo.

.
Warner Bros. asked for further changes, but Prince refused, giving them no other option than to release the album as it was. Prince proposed that Come should be released by "Prince", with The Gold Experience by "" following a few weeks later, but Warner Bros. was unenthusiastic about this idea.

I suppose that was WB's mistake, I love Come but it had little commercial appeal while TGE had a D&P potential. What I don't understand is it's always said that wanted to release both albums and WB would only release Come because they felt more secure with the "Prince" trademark than the symbol, but given the success of TMBGITW (despite the symbol) the wise thing would have been to tell they would release TGE and NOT Come instead of the opposite. seemed inclined to promote this one album and it had many radio-friendly tracks (let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

^Damn fucked-up website! Sorry for the multiple posts

databank said:

^Damn fucked-up website! Sorry for the multiple posts

I'm not laughing at you, just the number of posts, scrolling down I was wondering if it was ever going to stop!

NouveauDance said:

They probably expected too much after the success of D&P.

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Consider - the first single consistented of repeatedly saying "motherfucker" and the second single had him wearing a ridiculous chainmail hat covering his face in the video, with an alternative adult "playboy" video. The album was a silly, pompus rock opera with nonsense segues and an overbloated tracklist. Great for fans, not so great for promoting to a wider audience.

^^^Yeah that. But, they also spent less money on promoting Prince and more on Madonna. That started with the symbol album. I sometimes wonder if they wanted him to sell less (by the cut in promotions) so Prince would be in the hole to teach him some sort of lesson.

databank said:

^Damn fucked-up website! Sorry for the multiple posts

You know you can go back in and edit them? Delete all text and the boxes wont be as big. That's what I do when the Org double posts.

kewlschool said:

NouveauDance said:

They probably expected too much after the success of D&P.

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Consider - the first single consistented of repeatedly saying "motherfucker" and the second single had him wearing a ridiculous chainmail hat covering his face in the video, with an alternative adult "playboy" video. The album was a silly, pompus rock opera with nonsense segues and an overbloated tracklist. Great for fans, not so great for promoting to a wider audience.

^^^Yeah that. But, they also spent less money on promoting Prince and more on Madonna. That started with the symbol album. I sometimes wonder if they wanted him to sell less (by the cut in promotions) so Prince would be in the hole to teach him some sort of lesson.

At that point, Madonna had a proven track record of success after success. Prince was much more spotty with the return on their investment.

But she sure showed them! Turning the public against her for the better part of 2 years.

Askani said:

kewlschool said:

^^^Yeah that. But, they also spent less money on promoting Prince and more on Madonna. That started with the symbol album. I sometimes wonder if they wanted him to sell less (by the cut in promotions) so Prince would be in the hole to teach him some sort of lesson.

At that point, Madonna had a proven track record of success after success. Prince was much more spotty with the return on their investment.

But she sure showed them! Turning the public against her for the better part of 2 years.

1984:

Like A Virgin: 21M

Purple Rain: 21M

1986:

True Blue: 25M

Parade: 4M

1987:

Who's That Girl: 5M

Sign O The Times: 4M

1989:

Like A Prayer: 15M

Batman: 7M

1990:

I'm Breathless: 7M

Graffiti Bridge: 2M

1992:

Erotica: 6M

Love Symbol: 3M

Madonna: 79M

Prince: 41M

I love this album. i think it his last great masterpiece. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Prince stayed at Warner, conducted his duties and promoted properly, collected his massive advances and never changed his name. However, prince did what Prince does and continues to do - making inexplicable decisions that directly affects his income and output.

Has a hardcore fanbase ever dwindled so quickly before?

Rebeljuice said:

I love this album. i think it his last great masterpiece. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened had Prince stayed at Warner, conducted his duties and promoted properly, collected his massive advances and never changed his name. However, prince did what Prince does and continues to do - making inexplicable decisions that directly affects his income and output.

I've often wondered about that too.If he had honored the contract,didn't go to war with Warners,and made a genuine effort to turn things around at Paisley Park Records,the 90s could have been a remarkable decade for him.The symbol/name change nonsense really hurt his career back then.

databank said:

let's also not forget that it was a quite different configuration at the time than the released version).

NPG Operator

Interactive (longer version)

NPG Operator

Days Of Wild

NPG Operator

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

NPG Operator

Now

Acknowledge Me

Ripopgodazippa

NPG Operator

319

NPG Operator

Shy

Billy Jack Bitch

I Hate U

NPG Operator

Gold

I like this tracklist.I always thought it was a mistake to remove "Days Of Wild" and "Ripopgodazippa" from the album.I love those songs! Also,"Interactive" is a great song and perfect opener...much better than the silly "P Control".

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

He did not "spend the summer bitching" and your diagnosis that the situation is due to PlectrumElectrum is just speculation. Yeah 're just continuing with the narrative you want. I don't call a remark here and there "spending the summer bitching" -- in any case, better a summer than nearly two decades.

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Inviting reporters every other weekend and bitching about not being able to reach WBR execs, holding listening parties in order to pressure the record company,... And then there's the recent interview where he once again is whining and moaning instead of celebrating two new releases.

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My narrative is based on the facts, yours is based on ignoring them.

Your "narrative" this summer was to say you're "100 % convinced that..." and now these assumptions are facts to you. This is really all that happened (the usual: you conducting this 2 decade long pointless "fact finding mission" like you're Ken Starr to the Clintons).

Also, since you're back dispensing your familiar diatribes, the albums not selling like he's Taylor Swift is not a "flop". You don't even recognize Musicology or 3121 has relatively successful (commercial wise) because they don't fit the above noted narrative.

Aerogram said:

Your "narrative" this summer was to say you're "100 % convinced that..." and now these assumptions are facts to you.

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No, they're still theories. Based on previous behavior and on the facts.

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Also, since you're back dispensing your familiar diatribes, the albums not selling like he's Taylor Swift is not a "flop".

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Once again you get caught making up shit. Prove where I said they flopped.

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3121 and Musicology are such massive successes that Prince couldn't be arsed to actually play songs from these albums in concert. Couldn't even be arsed to keep them in print. They're gathering dust on shelves while PR is still selling in droves each year.

Rebeljuice said:

Did you just really say that Prince needs to keep his place?

How do you know that any of his decisions affect his income? Have you seen his WBR contract?

feeluupp said:

Askani said:

At that point, Madonna had a proven track record of success after success. Prince was much more spotty with the return on their investment.

But she sure showed them! Turning the public against her for the better part of 2 years.

1984:

Like A Virgin: 21M

Purple Rain: 21M

1986:

True Blue: 25M

Parade: 4M

1987:

Who's That Girl: 5M

Sign O The Times: 4M

1989:

Like A Prayer: 15M

Batman: 7M

1990:

I'm Breathless: 7M

Graffiti Bridge: 2M

1992:

Erotica: 6M

Love Symbol: 3M

Madonna: 79M

Prince: 41M

Add the missing sales of in the same period; ATWIAD (4.5m), Lovesexy (3m), D&P (6.5m) and Princes total for the same time span is 55m. Not something to be sniffed at. Plus WB clearly believed P have the potential for the most longivity. Little did they know....

feeluupp said:

1989:

Like A Prayer: 15M

Batman: 7M

1990:

I'm Breathless: 7M

Graffiti Bridge: 2M

1992:

Erotica: 6M

Love Symbol: 3M

Madonna: 79M

Prince: 41M

Wikipedia:

Batman - Over 11 million.

- over 5M

Noodled24 said:

feeluupp said:

1989:

Like A Prayer: 15M

Batman: 7M

1990:

I'm Breathless: 7M

Graffiti Bridge: 2M

1992:

Erotica: 6M

Love Symbol: 3M

Madonna: 79M

Prince: 41M

Wikipedia:

Batman - Over 11 million.

- over 5M

Those numbers are inflated... Batman at the time from 1989-1993 it was recorded it sold over 4.5 million copies worldwide. To this date Batman sold 7 million.

As with Love Symbol album, from 1992-1994 it sold a total of 2.8 million worldwide. To this date sold over 3m.

feeluupp said:

Askani said:

At that point, Madonna had a proven track record of success after success. Prince was much more spotty with the return on their investment.

But she sure showed them! Turning the public against her for the better part of 2 years.

1984:

Like A Virgin: 21M

Purple Rain: 21M

1986:

True Blue: 25M

Parade: 4M

1987:

Who's That Girl: 5M

Sign O The Times: 4M

1989:

Like A Prayer: 15M

Batman: 7M

1990:

I'm Breathless: 7M

Graffiti Bridge: 2M

1992:

Erotica: 6M

Love Symbol: 3M

Madonna: 79M

Prince: 41M

Those figures of madonna are pretty good for a none singer

feeluupp said:

Noodled24 said:

Wikipedia:

Batman - Over 11 million.

- over 5M

Those numbers are inflated... Batman at the time from 1989-1993 it was recorded it sold over 4.5 million copies worldwide. To this date Batman sold 7 million.

As with Love Symbol album, from 1992-1994 it sold a total of 2.8 million worldwide. To this date sold over 3m.

I suspect the Batman album is around the 10/11 million mark. Purely off the Batman association. Type "Batman" into a music search and Prince's album will show up. Unless you have another source?

Also, you're using the current Madonna numbers (Erotica - 6M - Wikipedia). You can't compare Prince's sales over 3 years to Madonnas sales to date. Again, unless you have another source? Around the 5m mark seems about right for the album to date. I know it wasn't huge in the states, but it did well in the UK and europe. Sexy MF was a huge song.

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Love Symbol is an incredible album,but I think it's simply a case of not choosing all the right singles.For example,"The Morning Papers" is a decent song,but it should not have been a single."And God Created Woman" was a better,stronger choice.

Also,"The Continental" should have been a single at some point.

Noodled24 said:

feeluupp said:

Those numbers are inflated... Batman at the time from 1989-1993 it was recorded it sold over 4.5 million copies worldwide. To this date Batman sold 7 million.

As with Love Symbol album, from 1992-1994 it sold a total of 2.8 million worldwide. To this date sold over 3m.

I suspect the Batman album is around the 10/11 million mark. Purely off the Batman association. Type "Batman" into a music search and Prince's album will show up. Unless you have another source?

Also, you're using the current Madonna numbers (Erotica - 6M - Wikipedia). You can't compare Prince's sales over 3 years to Madonnas sales to date. Again, unless you have another source? Around the 5m mark seems about right for the album to date. I know it wasn't huge in the states, but it did well in the UK and europe. Sexy MF was a huge song.

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Love Symbol never passed the 5m mark, hence the friction with the contract being Prince's albums had to pass 5m starting with the Love Symbol album for him to get the 10m advance. Also because Love Symbol did not pass the 5m mark, Warners was hesitant to promote and release TGE when Prince wanted later resulting to what it is now today, Come then TGE with very little to no promotion, both albums only going GOLD.