Guys,

Even though Plectrum / AoA havent been particularly big sellers in each territory... worldwide Prince has sold the most albums this week. I am still really disappointed with WB on the promotion as I believe this could have sold at least double that worldwide with some decent marketing.

Do you really think that numbers like these are impressing to any record company now a days? These companies are used to seeing numbers for sales in the millions, and I'm sure that numbers in the thousands don't impress them much.

1contessa said:

Do you really think that numbers like these are impressing to any record company now a days? These companies are used to seeing numbers for sales in the millions, and I'm sure that numbers in the thousands don't impress them much.

Nonsense -- if these numbers are correct, that's what the record industry is achieving right now: no. 1 albums that sell barely a hundred thousand copies. If the record industry was doing better, that no. 1 spot would be worth more copies so that's not Prince's failure.

^^Nonsense.

The Albums are not the money maker for them, Why would warner plough loads of cash into promotion for records they wont be getting a massive return on and Prince owning the rights?

The numbers means Warner has probably just about broken even to be fair.

The tour will be where they make money and put the promotion into.

They know he can still fill arenas and from 2 or 3 shows they will make more than the albums have made in the first 2 weeks. Album sales mean very little these days the majority of revenue comes from touring, and touring is where they are guaranteed to make money where Prince is concerned.

fnksoul said:

The Albums are not the money maker for them, Why would warner plough loads of cash into promotion for records they wont be getting a massive return on and Prince owning the rights?

The numbers means Warner has probably just about broken even to be fair.

The tour will be where they make money and put the promotion into.

They know he can still fill arenas and from 2 or 3 shows they will make more than the albums have made in the first 2 weeks. Album sales mean very little these days the majority of revenue comes from touring, and touring is where they are guaranteed to make money where Prince is concerned.

Why would Prince agree to have WB cut into his touring money? Strictly for the distribution and little promotion? He has shown that he is capable of doing a tour on his own merits and out of his own pocket, and keeping all profits.

According to World Top 50 Albums

1. AOA (134, 300)

9. PlectrumElectrum (75, 500)

http://www.musicharts.net...amp;chid=0

Revolution said:

fnksoul said:

The Albums are not the money maker for them, Why would warner plough loads of cash into promotion for records they wont be getting a massive return on and Prince owning the rights?

The numbers means Warner has probably just about broken even to be fair.

The tour will be where they make money and put the promotion into.

They know he can still fill arenas and from 2 or 3 shows they will make more than the albums have made in the first 2 weeks. Album sales mean very little these days the majority of revenue comes from touring, and touring is where they are guaranteed to make money where Prince is concerned.

Why would Prince agree to have WB cut into his touring money? Strictly for the distribution and little promotion? He has shown that he is capable of doing a tour on his own merits and out of his own pocket, and keeping all profits.

The hit n run shows WB were behind if you ask me, pre-promotion for the albums I reckon across Europe. Prince wont fund a world tour and take the financial risk. And Warner ARE behind the tour coming up!

Why would WB just agree to release 2 albums with little return on it along with giving him back his masters? They legally could have ept control of them for a while yet, and was still no gaurentee of him getting them back after a court battle when the licence were up. So a tour was maybe part of the deal

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You have to take into account that WB probably didn't pay anything for the recording of Plectrumelectrum, and I suspect they didn't pay too much for Art Official Age either. So it was stuff that they didn't have to finance themselves and all that they had to was to get those CDs pressed and maybe pay for some of the ads.

^You guys don't understand the logic of albums sales, look:

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Both albums are in every possible Top 10's.

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Every major artist but Prince sell by the millions.

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The various Top 10's don't classify albums by sales figures.

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Certainly if AOA is #1 with, say, 100,000 copies, #2 may have sold 7M and #3 15M or something like that.

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It's even possible that Tops are, in fact, classified in the reverse order, i.e. #200 in the Top 200 is, in fact, the most selling album and #1 the least selling.

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This is the only possible way for me to explain how an album can at the same time be in the Top 10, sell less than every other album and be a complete commercial failure.

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I think all is explained now

databank said:

^You guys don't understand the logic of albums sales, look:

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Both albums are in every possible Top 10's.

.

+

.

Every major artist but Prince sell by the millions.

.

=

.

The various Top 10's don't classify albums by sales figures.

.

Certainly if AOA is #1 with, say, 100,000 copies, #2 may have sold 7M and #3 15M or something like that.

.

It's even possible that Tops are, in fact, classified in the reverse order, i.e. #200 in the Top 200 is, in fact, the most selling album and #1 the least selling.

.

This is the only possible way for me to explain how an album can at the same time be in the Top 10, sell less than every other album and be a complete commercial failure.

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I think all is explained now

Worlwide AOA is doing fine. Plectrum however is a complete flop, selling less than 5,000 copies in the 2nd week and already is out of the Billboard TOP 50. At this rate plectrum might become Prince's second lowest selling album only behind N.E.W.S.

databank said:

Both albums are in every possible Top 10's.

No. Not in my country, which is the biggest music market in europe.

databank said:

why do fans continue to blame Warners for the lack of promotion? Prince didn't do his share of promotion at all.He could have been making some high-profile appearances on the chat shows.He could have delivered an amazing video for "Clouds".That's how you promote an album.Yes,there are a few things that Warners could have done,but Prince has to do his part,too.

FunkyBrotha said:

Guys,

Even though Plectrum / AoA havent been particularly big sellers in each territory... worldwide Prince has sold the most albums this week. I am still really disappointed with WB on the promotion as I believe this could have sold at least double that worldwide with some decent marketing.