Just curious .. P has a lot of "singles" and records that simply don't hold up over the years .. didn't he get a grammy for "call my name" .. yet "musicology" is the song he keeps playing .. there was TMBGITHW yet we get full and extended versions of "shhh" at every show .. some of us hear it right away .. others gush endlessly and come around eventually years after a release .. but we don't need to talk about that ..

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so .. what songs from AOA do u really think he will be playing in 5 years time?

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I am guessing maybe "funknroll" only because live it has that same boring simple chant funk groove that "musicology" had. Personally I would rather hear "lady cab driver" or DMSR than these new tame funk jams that go nowhere and have extraordinarly boring lyrics ... maybe "the breakdown" could make a future come back like "eye love u but dont trust u anymore" did .. but they could also just as easily be forgotten since niether quite reach the sentiment and greatness of his true classics

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anything on here a 'classic' that prince would be remiss not to include in his hits live sets?

Only time will tell, mate!

What does that mean anyway? Time is just a construct. And who will be the judge? About what timeframe are we talking? A hundred years, a million years, eternity?

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ludwig said:

What does that mean anyway? Time is just a construct. And who will be the judge? About what timeframe are we talking? A hundred years, a million years, eternity?

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no just say like 5 years .. do u think anything from this album will be in a live set by then? anything stand out as just that good?

I can hear a beautiful piano version of "This Could Be Us" in my head. I can hear it being played in a piano set along with "The Beautiful Ones", "Do Me Baby" and "D&P".

So I say yes.

Time is a trick, so I guess not.

V10LETBLUES said:

Hilarious. Dude hasn't even bothered to announce any gigs to promote these releases and here you lot are already fantasising about what tracks he'll play from them ten years from now.

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A simple exercise: go look at his releases of the past 15 years and check which songs became concert classics -- there's your answer.

V10LETBLUES said:

TrevorAyer said:

Just curious .. P has a lot of "singles" and records that simply don't hold up over the years .. didn't he get a grammy for "call my name" .. yet "musicology" is the song he keeps playing .. there was TMBGITHW yet we get full and extended versions of "shhh" at every show .. some of us hear it right away .. others gush endlessly and come around eventually years after a release .. but we don't need to talk about that ..

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so .. what songs from AOA do u really think he will be playing in 5 years time?

.

I am guessing maybe "funknroll" only because live it has that same boring simple chant funk groove that "musicology" had. Personally I would rather hear "lady cab driver" or DMSR than these new tame funk jams that go nowhere and have extraordinarly boring lyrics ... maybe "the breakdown" could make a future come back like "eye love u but dont trust u anymore" did .. but they could also just as easily be forgotten since niether quite reach the sentiment and greatness of his true classics

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anything on here a 'classic' that prince would be remiss not to include in his hits live sets?

no

BartVanHemelen said:

Hilarious. Dude hasn't even bothered to announce any gigs to promote these releases and here you lot are already fantasising about what tracks he'll play from them ten years from now.

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A simple exercise: go look at his releases of the past 15 years and check which songs became concert classics -- there's your answer.

how many rolling stones songs from the last 15 years are concert classics ?

what about springsteen ?...stevie wonder ?...no ?, didnt think so..

every artist has their golden period which the public identifies that artist with...

prince is no different than any other mature artist...its getting boring reading this crap...i wonder if bart goes on stevie wonder forums and tells everyone how "a time 2 love" album doesn't compare to "songs in the key of life" .

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BartVanHemelen said:

Hilarious. Dude hasn't even bothered to announce any gigs to promote these releases and here you lot are already fantasising about what tracks he'll play from them ten years from now.

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A simple exercise: go look at his releases of the past 15 years and check which songs became concert classics -- there's your answer.

You never know. For instance, Prince took Purple Rain's last single - "Take Me With U" - added one chord in the bridge, and it became a concert staple for over a decade.

In fact, I'd guess that since he changed "Take Me With U" in 2001, it's been out-ranked only by "Purple Rain" in number of concert performances of songs from that album. Heck, maybe even songs from any album.

No one would have predicted that in 1984, or 1994.

RodeoSchro said:

V10LETBLUES said:

RodeoSchro said:

You never know. For instance, Prince took Purple Rain's last single - "Take Me With U" - added one chord in the bridge, and it became a concert staple for over a decade.

In fact, I'd guess that since he changed "Take Me With U" in 2001, it's been out-ranked only by "Purple Rain" in number of concert performances of songs from that album. Heck, maybe even songs from any album.

No one would have predicted that in 1984, or 1994.

Take Me with u has always been a classic. its always been with me and not because of him playing it live. More like he plays it live BECAUSE people like it.

Yeah, but how often does he play it intact all the way through? And not turn it into a TMWU/RB medley?

And why not lock this thread, since it's basically the same topic as AOA is the Best Since Purple Rain --locked.

If not locked, then see below for the continuation of the age old argument that since more recent tracks have not been added to the concert sets, then nothing was good.

Also stand by for "When he toured for/before TGE, he played all the songs!"

Then someone will say "It's normal for an artist of his longevity with such a deep classic catalog." (see above as well -- and probably the sticky thread somewhere in the 10 pages)

BartVanHemelen said:

Hilarious. Dude hasn't even bothered to announce any gigs to promote these releases and here you lot are already fantasising about what tracks he'll play from them ten years from now.

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A simple exercise: go look at his releases of the past 15 years and check which songs became concert classics -- there's your answer.

A simple answer: Musicology. He does play that one quite a bit live.

Aerogram said:

And why not lock this thread, since it's basically the same topic as AOA is the Best Since Purple Rain --locked.

If not locked, then see below for the continuation of the age old argument that since more recent tracks have not been added to the concert sets, then nothing was good.

Also stand by for "When he toured for/before TGE, he played all the songs!"

Then someone will say "It's normal for an artist of his longevity with such a deep classic catalog." (see above as well -- and probably the sticky thread somewhere in the 10 pages)

yer such a hater .. this thread is ALIVE!!!

Hard question, I would like to think maybe a song or 2 might stick around
but as to which one.. im undesided

TrevorAyer said:

blackbob said:

how many rolling stones songs from the last 15 years are concert classics ?

what about springsteen ?...stevie wonder ?...no ?, didnt think so..

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Gotta love Prince fams: "Prince is unique" to excuse dumb-ass move. Then when they're confronted with some harsh truths: "he's just like all these other artists".

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I don't think Stones fans will claim those recent albums are classics. Yet here on the Org shite like 20Ten or Planet Earth of Lotusflower is claimed to be just as good as his 1980s output. Which makes the current "best album in 10/15/20 years" raves utterly hilarious, of course, because nobody is going to admit that they've been bulshitting all that time and that they knew those albums were at best mediocre.

PhantomOfSolace said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Hilarious. Dude hasn't even bothered to announce any gigs to promote these releases and here you lot are already fantasising about what tracks he'll play from them ten years from now.

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A simple exercise: go look at his releases of the past 15 years and check which songs became concert classics -- there's your answer.

A simple answer: Musicology. He does play that one quite a bit live.

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Wow. You found ONE song.

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Like I said: "there's your answer".

The newer songs he plays more often ("Musicology", "Guitar") are hardly the best ones on the 00s albums. Not sure why those have even ended up on the set - probably because he likes the "theme", or maybe simply the titles, of the songs.

But to answer what was asked by the OP - no, I don't think much of it will stand the test of time. Tracks like "Breakdown" or "The Gold Standard" are stronger candidates, but the overproduced sound effect / reverb stuff especially at the end of the album will wear out most listeners quite fast. They're now really enticed about those tracks, but just look at what happened to the general perception of tracks like "Gold" among the fanbase.

novabrkr said:

The newer songs he plays more often ("Musicology", "Guitar") are hardly the best ones on the 00s albums. Not sure why those have even ended up on the set - probably because he likes the "theme", or maybe simply the titles, of the songs.

But to answer what was asked by the OP - no, I don't think much of it will stand the test of time. Tracks like "Breakdown" or "The Gold Standard" are stronger candidates, but the overproduced sound effect / reverb stuff especially at the end of the album will wear out most listeners quite fast. They're now really enticed about those tracks, but just look at what happened to the general perception of tracks like "Gold" among the fanbase.

The whole "added to the set list or not" test doesn't work at all. Prince is a businessman as well, he's going to pick songs that are most familiar to the ticket buying public ("plus a few fan favorites") and he has so many to choose from. There are numerous songs considered classics around here, from his "golden age", that he does not play -- he just as so many of them that if he worked according to this "test" Bart has been applying since 1896 1996, his sets would have to be 8 hours long if he picked just three of the most worthy songs from each album.

And why would we need to decide now what will "stand the test of time"?

Let's enjoy or dislike the songs in the now and worry about history in a few weeks, months or years, these pronouncements have been wrong (and pompous) since they built the still standing Eiffel Tower.

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BartVanHemelen said:

PhantomOfSolace said:

A simple answer: Musicology. He does play that one quite a bit live.

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Wow. You found ONE song.

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Like I said: "there's your answer".

Read my answer just above, your "test" is a joke.

V10LETBLUES said:

You can't say that a song is bad, throwaway, not as good as old songs etc. just because he doesn't play it in concerts.

You hear those deeper cuts when he plays small venues, and he's even made a point of saying that (was it to Andre 3000???) you have to play your hits. If your playing to 20,000 people, probably 80% of them are general fans who might have seen him once, twice or never, and have half a dozen albums. I want to hear 'Fury', they want 'LGC' for chrisake.

I, as I'm sure many many more on here, could easily give a 30 song line-up from the last 15 years they would love to hear in concert.

I was lucky enough to hear 'The Love We Make' at the Roundhouse this year. Fkin awesome, one of the highlights for me. I would think if these albums are sucessful, one or two could become a staple in the arenas.