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Thread started 09/10/14 9:43pm

Jerky

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Prince samples PRINCE

I noticed that on the leaked song 'Go' just as the guitar solo starts you can hear "Shut up" sampled from Housequakes "Shut up already, damn"

First of all, am I right?

Second, is this the earliest case of Prince sampling Prince.

And thirdly, what other Prince songs does he do this in?

I know there are lots in 'Girl 6' but that song is the equivalent of a montage flashback episode of a sitcom.
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Reply #1 posted 09/10/14 9:45pm

thebanishedone

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My Name is Prince samples I Wanna Be Your Lover

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Reply #2 posted 09/10/14 10:36pm

Fhunkin

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thebanishedone said:

My Name is Prince samples I Wanna Be Your Lover

Also sampled on My Name is Prince; Controversy and Lovesexy (the song)

Futuristic Fantasy
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/14 10:48pm

FragileUnderto
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Batdance comes to mind

hmmm also 2 Whome It May Concern

razz

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #4 posted 09/10/14 11:29pm

Rebeljuice

Fhunkin said:

thebanishedone said:

My Name is Prince samples I Wanna Be Your Lover

Also sampled on My Name is Prince; Controversy and Lovesexy (the song)

And Party Up...

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Reply #5 posted 09/10/14 11:37pm

udo

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Is this news?

If this was a new record being analyzed, but no...

So I ask: do people ever really listen?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #6 posted 09/11/14 1:40am

RODSERLING

Rebeljuice said:

Fhunkin said:

Also sampled on My Name is Prince; Controversy and Lovesexy (the song)

And Party Up...

LOVESEXY ? When ?

PARTY UP ?? When ???

Controversy, IWBYL and Irresistible bitch are the only songs I remember sampled in MY NAME IS. Please, can you clarify this ?

RAVEUN2 samples THE MAX (or the contrary lol ).

The most obvious example is MUSICOLOGY, at the end of the song.

LOVESIGN remix on CB samples DMSR

HOT WIT U quotes IF I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.

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Reply #7 posted 09/11/14 1:50am

Fhunkin

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RODSERLING said:

Rebeljuice said:

And Party Up...

LOVESEXY ? When ?

PARTY UP ?? When ???

Controversy, IWBYL and Irresistible bitch are the only songs I remember sampled in MY NAME IS. Please, can you clarify this ?

RAVEUN2 samples THE MAX (or the contrary lol ).

The most obvious example is MUSICOLOGY, at the end of the song.

LOVESIGN remix on CB samples DMSR

HOT WIT U quotes IF I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.

The female backwards sighs wink

Futuristic Fantasy
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Reply #8 posted 09/11/14 1:54am

dodger

2morrow - The Most Beautiful Girl

I Hate U - Billy Jack Bitch

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Reply #9 posted 09/11/14 2:04am

RODSERLING

Fhunkin said:

RODSERLING said:

LOVESEXY ? When ?

PARTY UP ?? When ???

Controversy, IWBYL and Irresistible bitch are the only songs I remember sampled in MY NAME IS. Please, can you clarify this ?

RAVEUN2 samples THE MAX (or the contrary lol ).

The most obvious example is MUSICOLOGY, at the end of the song.

LOVESIGN remix on CB samples DMSR

HOT WIT U quotes IF I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.

The female backwards sighs wink

But they're not sampled form PARTY UP, nor LOVESEXY ? I never heard them, can you tell me when in one of this song does the sighs appear ?

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Reply #10 posted 09/11/14 2:26am

Lette

Does the Lovesign remix count? The DMSR sample.
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Reply #11 posted 09/11/14 2:40am

novabrkr

RODSERLING said:

Rebeljuice said:

And Party Up...

LOVESEXY ? When ?

PARTY UP ?? When ???

Controversy, IWBYL and Irresistible bitch are the only songs I remember sampled in MY NAME IS. Please, can you clarify this ?

RAVEUN2 samples THE MAX (or the contrary lol ).

The most obvious example is MUSICOLOGY, at the end of the song.

LOVESIGN remix on CB samples DMSR

HOT WIT U quotes IF I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.


"Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" doesn't sample "The Max". It's the melody from the Duke Ellington piece from "Caravan" and Prince has used it on some other tracks too ("Days Of Wild" uses a variation of it and it's used on the unreleased "Soul Psychodelicide", which exists as three different versions).

However, "sampling" means that you're taking a portion of another recording and including it in a new piece of yours. It doesn't refer to playing some melodic or rhythmic part of an earlier composition on a new piece (although this use has started to get more common on Wikipedia articles and the like, but it's incorrectly used in that context).

In other words, playing the melody of "Caravan" on a guitar and including it on a song of your own isn't sampling.

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Reply #12 posted 09/11/14 3:20am

RODSERLING

novabrkr said:

RODSERLING said:

LOVESEXY ? When ?

PARTY UP ?? When ???

Controversy, IWBYL and Irresistible bitch are the only songs I remember sampled in MY NAME IS. Please, can you clarify this ?

RAVEUN2 samples THE MAX (or the contrary lol ).

The most obvious example is MUSICOLOGY, at the end of the song.

LOVESIGN remix on CB samples DMSR

HOT WIT U quotes IF I WAS YOUR GIRLFRIEND.


"Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic" doesn't sample "The Max". It's the melody from the Duke Ellington piece from "Caravan" and Prince has used it on some other tracks too ("Days Of Wild" uses a variation of it and it's used on the unreleased "Soul Psychodelicide", which exists as three different versions).

However, "sampling" means that you're taking a portion of another recording and including it in a new piece of yours. It doesn't refer to playing some melodic or rhythmic part of an earlier composition on a new piece (although this use has started to get more common on Wikipedia articles and the like, but it's incorrectly used in that context).

In other words, playing the melody of "Caravan" on a guitar and including it on a song of your own isn't sampling.

Yes, it's an interpolation, to be correct. But, samples, interpolations or quotes are, I think what Jerky asked for.

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Reply #13 posted 09/11/14 3:24am

Blixical

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I swear on certain tracks of 20Ten, I can hear instrument parts from the Dirty Mind album buried in the mix. And, not 'samples, but actual full blown parts.

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Reply #14 posted 09/11/14 3:31am

thedance

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"PartyUp" is sampled in MNIP:

My Name is Prince

(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy) (Prince)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy) (Prince)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy)
My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only
I did not come 2 funk around
'Tll I get your daughter I won't leave this town
In the beginning God made the sea
But on the 7th day he made me
He was tryin' to rest y'all when He heard the sound
Sound like a guitar cold gettin' down
I tried to bust a high note, but I bust a string
My God was worried 'til he heard me sing

My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only - hurt me

(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Hurt me (Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)

My name is Prince and I am funky
When it come to funk I am a junky
I know from righteous I know from sin
I got 2 sides and they both friends
Don't try 2 clock 'em, they're much too fast
If u try to stop 'em they kick that ass
Without a pistol, without a gun
When u hear my music you'll be havin' fun
That's when I gottcha that's when u mine
To tell the truth, tell me what's my line'

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only - hurt me (You can't stop Prince)

(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Funky fresh 4 the 90's (Do that, do that, somebody) (Prince)

My name is Prince, I don't wanna be king
Cuz I've seen the top and it's just a dream
Big cars and women and fancy clothes
Will save your face but it won't save your soul
I'm here to tell you that there's a better way
Would our Lord be happy if He came 2 day'
I ain't sayin' I'm better, no better than u
But if u want 2 play with me, u better learn the rules

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only (You can't stop Prince)
I did not come 2 funk around (You can't stop Prince)
'Till I get your daughter I won't leave this town
I won't leave this town
I won't leave this town
I won't leave this - leave this - leave this

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only (You can't stop Prince)
Funky fresh 4 the 90's (Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Hurt me (Do that, do that, some....)

The funkier I be
The funkier I get, oh shit
Lickety split on the lyric
A new jack in the pulpit
Watch it deacon, your track is leakin'
What is this u're seekin''
The syncopated rhymes are at their peak
When you jumped on my D.I.C.K.
That's the one thing that I don't play
The jock strap was 2 big 4 u anyway
U're just a simpleton
I'll bust u like a pimple, son
My star is 2 bright
Boy, I'll sink u like the ship Poseidon Adventure
U're bumpin' dentures 2 be cocksure
There must be more coming from
your mouth than manure.
So with a flow and a spray, I say hey
U must become a prince before u're king anyway

(Do that, do that somebody)
(Do that, do that somebody)

It's time I get ig-nig-nig-nig-nig-nig-n-ignorant
Def be the beat that I'm rockin'
Yo so, come get a hit
And put your thinking cap on
U've been forewarned
I call upon the inner forces that I've got brewin'
In my cauldron. That means my nugget...
Sometimes I'm rugged
The style I posses be havin'
The other brothers buggin' and this is 4 those who oppose
And propose 2 overexpose disclose
Pose a threat 2 my brother
Like any other man makin' a stand
I'll be damned if I let u play this hand
I'm the blackjack dealer and the cards are stacked
What do u expect 2 win when u're used to playing craps'

(Do that, do that somebody)
Hell yeah, let's get this under the hmm...
(Do that, do that somebody)

"Damn." It's gettin' tricky
I mean it's a sticky situation
2 resurrect a groove with feeling
And give it this much affection
Passion flows and who knows
What lurks in the gallows of my mind
I put my foot in the ass of Jim Crow
12 inches of non-stop sole
I'm on a roll with P, and it's time for the show
So do that, do that somebody
Wave your hands in the air
This is a motherfucking party
While u're laying back I'm on the attack paddywhack
Give yourself a bone
This is my house and I'm prone
2 layin' some chrome upside some motherfuckers dome
And I'm out...

My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only

My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince

My name is Prince

©1992 NPG Publishing - ASCAP

Credits: http://www.princelyrics.co.uk/song/259/

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #15 posted 09/11/14 3:48am

FunkyStrange

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Partyman purple party mix samples a bunch of tracks...
Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #16 posted 09/11/14 4:57am

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thedance said:

"PartyUp" is sampled in MNIP:

My Name is Prince

(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy) (Prince)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy) (Prince)
(I wanna be your lover) (Partyup) (Controversy)
My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only
I did not come 2 funk around
'Tll I get your daughter I won't leave this town
In the beginning God made the sea
But on the 7th day he made me
He was tryin' to rest y'all when He heard the sound
Sound like a guitar cold gettin' down
I tried to bust a high note, but I bust a string
My God was worried 'til he heard me sing

My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only - hurt me

(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Hurt me (Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)

My name is Prince and I am funky
When it come to funk I am a junky
I know from righteous I know from sin
I got 2 sides and they both friends
Don't try 2 clock 'em, they're much too fast
If u try to stop 'em they kick that ass
Without a pistol, without a gun
When u hear my music you'll be havin' fun
That's when I gottcha that's when u mine
To tell the truth, tell me what's my line'

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only - hurt me (You can't stop Prince)

(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Funky fresh 4 the 90's (Do that, do that, somebody) (Prince)

My name is Prince, I don't wanna be king
Cuz I've seen the top and it's just a dream
Big cars and women and fancy clothes
Will save your face but it won't save your soul
I'm here to tell you that there's a better way
Would our Lord be happy if He came 2 day'
I ain't sayin' I'm better, no better than u
But if u want 2 play with me, u better learn the rules

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only (You can't stop Prince)
I did not come 2 funk around (You can't stop Prince)
'Till I get your daughter I won't leave this town
I won't leave this town
I won't leave this town
I won't leave this - leave this - leave this

My name is Prince and I am funky (You can't stop Prince)
My name is Prince the one and only (You can't stop Prince)
Funky fresh 4 the 90's (Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
(Do that, do that, somebody)
Hurt me (Do that, do that, some....)

The funkier I be
The funkier I get, oh shit
Lickety split on the lyric
A new jack in the pulpit
Watch it deacon, your track is leakin'
What is this u're seekin''
The syncopated rhymes are at their peak
When you jumped on my D.I.C.K.
That's the one thing that I don't play
The jock strap was 2 big 4 u anyway
U're just a simpleton
I'll bust u like a pimple, son
My star is 2 bright
Boy, I'll sink u like the ship Poseidon Adventure
U're bumpin' dentures 2 be cocksure
There must be more coming from
your mouth than manure.
So with a flow and a spray, I say hey
U must become a prince before u're king anyway

(Do that, do that somebody)
(Do that, do that somebody)

It's time I get ig-nig-nig-nig-nig-nig-n-ignorant
Def be the beat that I'm rockin'
Yo so, come get a hit
And put your thinking cap on
U've been forewarned
I call upon the inner forces that I've got brewin'
In my cauldron. That means my nugget...
Sometimes I'm rugged
The style I posses be havin'
The other brothers buggin' and this is 4 those who oppose
And propose 2 overexpose disclose
Pose a threat 2 my brother
Like any other man makin' a stand
I'll be damned if I let u play this hand
I'm the blackjack dealer and the cards are stacked
What do u expect 2 win when u're used to playing craps'

(Do that, do that somebody)
Hell yeah, let's get this under the hmm...
(Do that, do that somebody)

"Damn." It's gettin' tricky
I mean it's a sticky situation
2 resurrect a groove with feeling
And give it this much affection
Passion flows and who knows
What lurks in the gallows of my mind
I put my foot in the ass of Jim Crow
12 inches of non-stop sole
I'm on a roll with P, and it's time for the show
So do that, do that somebody
Wave your hands in the air
This is a motherfucking party
While u're laying back I'm on the attack paddywhack
Give yourself a bone
This is my house and I'm prone
2 layin' some chrome upside some motherfuckers dome
And I'm out...

My name is Prince and I am funky
My name is Prince the one and only

My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince
My name is Prince

My name is Prince

©1992 NPG Publishing - ASCAP

Credits: http://www.princelyrics.co.uk/song/259/

Ok, thanks a lot, but why quote the entire song ?

God, I must be half tone, I never paid attention to the party up thing in the mix.

And the sighs of the woman, is that the thing supposed to be in the LOVESEXY song? From what we can read here, it seems that MNIP misunderstood many about the samples used.

[Edited 9/11/14 4:58am]

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Reply #17 posted 09/11/14 8:46am

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Doesn't he do this on the long version of Let's Work as well? (I don't own the 12" anymore.)
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Reply #18 posted 09/11/14 8:50am

Mindbells9

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The Line #2 is sampled in "Partyman (video mix)", "The Latest Fashion", and of course "Acknowledge Me".

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Reply #19 posted 09/11/14 8:54am

FragileUnderto
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Release It samples Love Machine?

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #20 posted 09/11/14 8:55am

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"200 Balloons" samples "Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic", "House in Order"

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Reply #21 posted 09/11/14 9:37am

stillwaiting

Perhaps the dumbest example is "Movie Star" sampling a song that was recorded nearly ten years LATER...with "Jam of The Year." So stupid to release an old outtake with a new song sampled in...and don't get me started on "Joy In Repetition" having its wonderful linn drum intro ruined by the Eye No/Alphabet St Segue stupidly placed there.

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Reply #22 posted 09/11/14 10:07am

tomds

what about "girl 6" biggrin

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Reply #23 posted 09/11/14 10:17am

databank

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Mindbells9 said:

The Line #2 is sampled in "Partyman (video mix)", "The Latest Fashion", and of course "Acknowledge Me".

eek eek eek

I think I haven't listened to these tracks once since The Line 2 has leaked. When in the songs?

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Reply #24 posted 09/11/14 10:23am

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Orgasm samples Vibrator
"So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..."
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Reply #25 posted 09/11/14 11:00am

Doozer

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Letitgo (Sherm Stick Edits) sample The Ballad of Dorothy Parker.

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Reply #26 posted 09/11/14 11:35am

databank

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Just for the record, Koppleman stated once that in his time it was common that prince would work on a new track then suddenly send the engineer to the vault to bring back a particular unreleased song so prince could pick up a track or a sample from it. Koppleman said that he was shocked at how prince had such a detailed memory of his entire catalogue so he could just suddenly think of using a bit of an old song in a new one. It's very possible that this practice started early and that some released songs sample unreleased songs we don't have (see the The Line #2 example above: 2 samples suddenly revealed more than 20 years after release).

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Reply #27 posted 09/11/14 11:36am

databank

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double post

[Edited 9/11/14 11:36am]

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Reply #28 posted 09/11/14 3:33pm

thebanishedone

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Prince also sampled his guitar solo from Private Joy in a 5 or 6 of his and associated artists songs
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Reply #29 posted 09/11/14 3:52pm

Doozer

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The guitar solor in Prince's unreleased version of Chocolate resurfaced at the 3:30 mark of Shortberry Strawcake on Sheila E.'s In The Glamorous Life, and again on The Time's version of Chocolate on Pandemonium in 1990.

[Edited 9/11/14 15:53pm]

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