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Thread started 09/10/14 6:51pm

fluid

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Prince and Dance music(#1 scene)

The record companies are struglling to find what will be new. Sales are dropping and if they don't do something soon alot of record companies will tak in 5 years. They din't believe it but Dance is becoming the big new hot stuff. Lady Gaga went from the underground straight to the number one spot. Armand Van Buuren soldout Madison Square Garden in 10 minutes. SO withthat will record companies have the sense to see Dance is the big new music that all the kids are listening to.

They are playing it but very light Dance-Pop. Only thing that sound remotely close to real Dance is Lady Gaga and LMFAO and Talk That Talk which Riahnna did. And then there's Prince. While not an underground dance artist he's one of the few black artists to take Dance to the top. He starting getting into House in The Late 80s. Batdance was a Dance song. He used elements of Dance on The SYmbol album,Come and TGE. He may have done on Diamonds And Pearls but I can't tell if some music's just repetitive or Dance. He also did onsome later album RaveUN2 and esp. 3121,MNPLS....

But withthat do you think Prince will be the big new artist to take Dance to the top. Imean he's old and he's done it. But I mean some heavier Dance like dyou'd hear at a rave. I wonder if it would revive his career and he'd sell over 10 milllion again. CUrrently there's only been one Dance artist to sell over 10 mil.....Gaga.

If they don't try Dance I don't know what will be the big new music or if we'll even have a scene. Mtv's gone , the get more money showing reality shows than music. SO there really a reality channel.

[Edited 9/10/14 18:51pm]

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Reply #1 posted 09/10/14 7:06pm

thedance

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Prince is a pop-rock-funk artist.

He can learn zero from Lady gaga.

Her so-called "music" is 100% rubbish.

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Reply #2 posted 09/10/14 9:27pm

thedoorkeeper

You should be his manager. lol
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Reply #3 posted 09/10/14 11:25pm

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Lady Gaga is a gimmick and nothing much else.

Her last album was shite and if it weren't for the gay following, she'd be nothing today.

I give her "5 years".

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Reply #4 posted 09/10/14 11:59pm

Rebeljuice

Gaga is dance-lite if anything. If you are talking about the underground house/techno/electro dance scene then the artists you mention are most definately not examples of it. I would love to hear a minimal trance album by Prince but a) I can't see him being restrained enough and would end up over producing it and b) I dont think Prince is very keen on the 4 to the floor type of beat and would find it quite boring. But I would HATE to hear a dance-pop album from Prince aimed at the charts like the examples you give. I can hear Everyday is a Winding Road playing in my head and I now feel quite ill.

If Prince was to emerse himself into this kind of music, I image him coming up with something more akin to Basement Jaxx than the more subtle underground stuff. I would love to take Prince to an underground club in London, give him a quality pill and watch him go nuts for real dance music. Then we would get something awesome! smile

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Reply #5 posted 09/11/14 5:26am

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callimnate said:

Lady Gaga is a gimmick and nothing much else.

Her last album was shite and if it weren't for the gay following, she'd be nothing today.

I give her "5 years".

Ditto. All surface appearance and asthetics. No substance whatsoever.

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Reply #6 posted 09/11/14 8:17am

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I'd love it if Prince dropped some new hard electronic dance beats, but with funky guitars and bass and analog synths. I thought the most disappointing thing about the last Daft Punk album was that they had some great funky guitar parts from Nile Rodgers, but the beats weren't as hard as on previous Daft Punk albums like Discovery and Homework.

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Reply #7 posted 09/11/14 8:48am

Rebeljuice

Militant said:

I'd love it if Prince dropped some new hard electronic dance beats, but with funky guitars and bass and analog synths. I thought the most disappointing thing about the last Daft Punk album was that they had some great funky guitar parts from Nile Rodgers, but the beats weren't as hard as on previous Daft Punk albums like Discovery and Homework.

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Reply #8 posted 09/11/14 1:36pm

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EDM is apparently HUGE in the USA at the moment. (as if it was a new genre) There is little doubt that "Fall in Love 2Night" was aimed at just that market. It's a cute pop song. I dont think Prince really understands the difference. Or had hoped "some Dj's" would "do the rest"

FIL2N is the kind of song... If he'd given it to GaGa or [insert pop diva name] - it would have been a huge hit.

Loose! and Get loose are I suppose the other end of the scale. Being among the only Prince tracks you could really call hardcore. I'd love to hear a dance album from Prince. Unfortunately I think it'd be little more than a curiosity. I can't ever imagine him having a huge dance anthem.

Everyday is a winding road

FIL2N

The Human Body

Get Loose!

The Good life (Dancing divas mix) - actually really good

TMBGITW - (Dance mix) - I forget the actual name)

Batdance

Another Purple Medley

My Name is Prince - (house mix)

Gett Off (house mix)

P. Control(house/dance mix)

Are a few of the songs off the top of my head that I guess you could push into the EDM catagory. Not a great album is it? haha

Couple of good tracks, Some nice curiosities, some interesting ideas, and some utter guff.Which to be honest sounds like a standard Prince album these days.

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Reply #9 posted 09/11/14 5:25pm

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Noodled24 said:

EDM is apparently HUGE in the USA at the moment. (as if it was a new genre) There is little doubt that "Fall in Love 2Night" was aimed at just that market. It's a cute pop song. I dont think Prince really understands the difference. Or had hoped "some Dj's" would "do the rest"

FIL2N is the kind of song... If he'd given it to GaGa or [insert pop diva name] - it would have been a huge hit.

Loose! and Get loose are I suppose the other end of the scale. Being among the only Prince tracks you could really call hardcore. I'd love to hear a dance album from Prince. Unfortunately I think it'd be little more than a curiosity. I can't ever imagine him having a huge dance anthem.

Everyday is a winding road

FIL2N

The Human Body

Get Loose!

The Good life (Dancing divas mix) - actually really good

TMBGITW - (Dance mix) - I forget the actual name)

Batdance

Another Purple Medley

My Name is Prince - (house mix)

Gett Off (house mix)

P. Control(house/dance mix)

Are a few of the songs off the top of my head that I guess you could push into the EDM catagory. Not a great album is it? haha

Couple of good tracks, Some nice curiosities, some interesting ideas, and some utter guff.Which to be honest sounds like a standard Prince album these days.

Theives

The Future

Electric Chair

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all had house remixes, and are probably the closest he'll ever get to dance/techno or whatever you wanna call that shit. biggrin

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I dont mind them now, but I do recall thinking WTF when they were first released.

But in my eyes/ears, Prince has never suited ANY trends, hence my negativaty towards it then, and my new found hate for R&B. mad

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Reply #10 posted 09/11/14 10:00pm

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What do you mean dance is new big thing?

It's been big for a long time now. Armin van Buuren and other djs are selling out arenas for years already.

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Reply #11 posted 09/12/14 12:04am

Rebeljuice

nextedition said:

What do you mean dance is new big thing?

It's been big for a long time now. Armin van Buuren and other djs are selling out arenas for years already.

Agreed. But what is in the mainstream isnt really the good stuff. Its all sugar coated to appeal to the masses. Big names crossover and make dance-lite tunes which get played in all the big clubs world wide by these famous dj's. But that aint the real good stuff. The real deal is very much underground where it belongs. My particular favourite is pretty stripped down, thumping base lines, minimal synth hooks and driving 4 to the floor drums. No auto tuned vocals, no stupid sound effects, no hairy fairy piano.

I would love to hear Prince go down that route and delve into the underground scene. I doubt he has had much exposure to it though and probably wouldnt be very interested in its simplicity. Pretty much anything he has tried that fits into the dance music mold has been an attempt at the mainstream sound with lots of layers, more complex arrangements and large pinches of sugar coating. Attempts that, to me, have largely failed.

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Reply #12 posted 09/12/14 1:51am

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I know that. WHat I mean it's new to Pop culture. Cause remember the stuff on radio isn't really Dance. I've been listening to it for 20 years. There were a few hits back then but now every major artist is incorporating the Dance sound. I's been in Chicago,Detroit,New York..particuarly Europe&Asia since The 80s. Infac thalf the kids at my school were listening to it. It just never went big on big Clear Channel stations. That being cause they every so often played it. Even in EUrope there aren't as many Dance stations as there are others. The center of

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Reply #13 posted 09/12/14 5:31am

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The irony is that EDM owes it's entire existence to Detroit House from the 80's, the likes of Model 500 (Juan Atkins). And all those Detroit House pioneers acknowledge that Prince was one of their biggest musical influences.

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Reply #14 posted 09/12/14 1:31pm

Noodled24

nextedition said:

What do you mean dance is new big thing?

It's been big for a long time now. Armin van Buuren and other djs are selling out arenas for years already.

I wasn't saying dance music is a new thing. I'm saying dance music has been rebranded as "EDM" (in America).

The only prince song I can think of which could actually be classed as "EDM" would be "The Good Life (dancing divas mix).

There are a lot of Prince house mixes from the 90's. But for the most part they;re basically the whole song over a house beat. His brand of "Dance music" has always had one foot firmly in the pop/rock genre.

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Reply #15 posted 09/13/14 2:36am

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Militant said:

The irony is that EDM owes it's entire existence to Detroit House from the 80's, the likes of Model 500 (Juan Atkins). And all those Detroit House pioneers acknowledge that Prince was one of their biggest musical influences.


I only know the smallest bit about Detroit House, was Prince specifically influential or was he just part of a larger melting pot of influences?
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