has anyone noticed that Prince does not fade out a song anymore. they always end suddenly

Nivivrus said:

That's actually something I noticed in a lot of music these days, songs don't really do that anymore... (Or at least not the songs I listen to). I wonder why he doesn't do that with some of the newer songs, it's a really easy way to let some of them be longer, and to add some more elements into the song while they fade out. Especially since a lot of his greater songs from recently, like Clouds for instance, kinda end abruptly.

it does grate on me because some songs, its like he doesn't know how to end them so he just stops them.

Nivivrus said:

That's actually something I noticed in a lot of music these days, songs don't really do that anymore... (Or at least not the songs I listen to). I wonder why he doesn't do that with some of the newer songs, it's a really easy way to let some of them be longer, and to add some more elements into the song while they fade out. Especially since a lot of his greater songs from recently, like Clouds for instance, kinda end abruptly.

A fade out has no bearing on what elements are in a song. It only affects the sound level that you hear the music. The length of a song depends on how long it is, not if there is a fade or not. You can add extra elements regardless of a fade.

Now why is he not fading songs as much? I have no idea. I like a good fade, but I don't like it when something really exciting is happening at the fade, and then you don't hear it

lagantest said:

has anyone noticed that Prince does not fade out a song anymore. they always end suddenly

Funny because i always thought fade outs were far and few on prince albums

You can't really fade out when you are playing a song live, and there is such a focus on live performance these days. It's not just Prince doing this. Lots of songs just end whenever the programmed loop drops off.

That's very interesting, Kurt.

That is something I have never noti

I'm thinking specifically of the fade out to Mountains . . . there's stuff going on even in the fade out (I used to turn the volume up more and more as the fade out got quieter and quieter).

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To find out that the fade out on the album version lead into the 12" version: awesome!

Se7en said:

I'm thinking specifically of the fade out to Mountains . . . there's stuff going on even in the fade out (I used to turn the volume up more and more as the fade out got quieter and quieter).

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To find out that the fade out on the album version lead into the 12" version: awesome!

Se7en said:

I'm thinking specifically of the fade out to Mountains . . . there's stuff going on even in the fade out (I used to turn the volume up more and more as the fade out got quieter and quieter).

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To find out that the fade out on the album version lead into the 12" version: awesome!

My favourite fade out in a Prince-song is How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore.

I love it when he sings during a fade out.

You know I don't like bein' alone
Why, why must you torture me?

chewymusic said:

Se7en said:

I'm thinking specifically of the fade out to Mountains . . . there's stuff going on even in the fade out (I used to turn the volume up more and more as the fade out got quieter and quieter).

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To find out that the fade out on the album version lead into the 12" version: awesome!

its like on guitar it just starts getting interesting and then it fades out....

Three easy steps:

1. Add those pesky no-fade songs to iTunes playlist

2. Set iTunes playback to crossfade

3. Hit play

Voila

Se7en said:

people really want fade-outs?

huh. that's odd.

i thought musicology/3121 had few too many fades - Get On The Boat comes to mind...

lagantest said:

Nivivrus said:

That's actually something I noticed in a lot of music these days, songs don't really do that anymore... (Or at least not the songs I listen to). I wonder why he doesn't do that with some of the newer songs, it's a really easy way to let some of them be longer, and to add some more elements into the song while they fade out. Especially since a lot of his greater songs from recently, like Clouds for instance, kinda end abruptly.

it does grate on me because some songs, its like he doesn't know how to end them so he just stops them.

I've thought this on more than one occassion, too. LIke he wasn't sure how to end the song.

Fade outs can cause all kinds of strange things to happen when they're played on the radio or streamed through 3rd party distributors and the compression settings are set high (as they often are these days).

I'm actually not sure how that problem is tackled most commonly.

I alrealdy noticed that, and I think it's the case of most artists nowadays. It must be something that has to do with the I tunes playlist : when you're doing a party and when you make a random list, a fade out would ruin the moment.

When you are with your I PAD, you want to hear music everytime, not fade out. With the loudness war, artists and major want people to hear their songs louder, not in a fade out.

it's really interesting as a topic, I noticed it really began in the 90's when almost every song ended with a "bang". See the very popular albums BAD and DANGEROUS, for instance. In BAD you have fade out on almost every song (except for BAD and MITM). 4 years later in dangerous, you feel that MJ wanted to end everytime with a bang, or with a vocal. I think in a way the strongest endings are when a song does not fade out, it's more accomplished.

I love the fade out on HOW COME too, i first thought it was an edited version in the 1993 best of.

There's a simple reason for that and it's because DJ's have always hated playing faded records because there's always a chance that they can be 'caught napping'.
Since the advent of web radio and computer-managed radio programming, records that can cut dramatically to jingles etc have virtually become mandatory.

Records with fades are just not happening anymore in general and even legacy items with fades run this gauntlet.