I was wondering about this, this morning.

We know they fell out during the Purple Rain filming, which led to Morris having to sort out his own invitation to the premiere with Warners, and then the break up of The Time. So this was in 84...... Morris then went solo, had solo albums in 1985 and 1987.....


We know they were working together in Summer 1989 as this is when Prince and Morris recorded the "Corporate World" album and also Morris played drums on "New Power Generation".

Does anyone know if there were any media reports at the time about them mending their relationship and starting to work together again? Were there any reports about the "Corporate World" album before it was shelved and re-tooled into the GB/Pandemonium era with the rest of the original members?

Militant said:

I was wondering about this, this morning.

We know they fell out during the Purple Rain filming, which led to Morris having to sort out his own invitation to the premiere with Warners, and then the break up of The Time. So this was in 84...... Morris then went solo, had solo albums in 1985 and 1987.....


We know they were working together in Summer 1989 as this is when Prince and Morris recorded the "Corporate World" album and also Morris played drums on "New Power Generation".

Does anyone know if there were any media reports at the time about them mending their relationship and starting to work together again? Were there any reports about the "Corporate World" album before it was shelved and re-tooled into the GB/Pandemonium era with the rest of the original members?

Other than tiny bips in Rolling Stone or rumors, there wasn't much. Back then if you had the internet, you were a total geek with a modem a cassette tape drive and a text only internet that had no music industry presence. News and stock tickers were about it. Somebody would have to ask Morris himself or someone else in the Time. Prince likely wouldn't comment on it. I also believe The Time are pretty much done. Making that last really good album is probably our last nugget. They easily could've toured, but instead released the album and sat on their ass...and we all know that Jesse got impatient quick, and I don't blame him. The Original 7ven turned out to be the do nothing 6ix...a few shows, a couple of TV appearences and then nothing. The probably should have worked Prince a little harder, and held off releasing the album until Prince had one ready, but in the nearly 3 years since Condensate came out, there has been no Prince album...it would have been nice for a tour with the Time and a combo of Prince and The Revolution with some of the SOTT band. A pipe dream for sure, but it would've been huge.

stillwaiting said:

Militant said:

I was wondering about this, this morning.

We know they fell out during the Purple Rain filming, which led to Morris having to sort out his own invitation to the premiere with Warners, and then the break up of The Time. So this was in 84...... Morris then went solo, had solo albums in 1985 and 1987.....


We know they were working together in Summer 1989 as this is when Prince and Morris recorded the "Corporate World" album and also Morris played drums on "New Power Generation".

Does anyone know if there were any media reports at the time about them mending their relationship and starting to work together again? Were there any reports about the "Corporate World" album before it was shelved and re-tooled into the GB/Pandemonium era with the rest of the original members?

Other than tiny bips in Rolling Stone or rumors, there wasn't much. Back then if you had the internet, you were a total geek with a modem a cassette tape drive and a text only internet that had no music industry presence. News and stock tickers were about it. Somebody would have to ask Morris himself or someone else in the Time. Prince likely wouldn't comment on it. I also believe The Time are pretty much done. Making that last really good album is probably our last nugget. They easily could've toured, but instead released the album and sat on their ass...and we all know that Jesse got impatient quick, and I don't blame him. The Original 7ven turned out to be the do nothing 6ix...a few shows, a couple of TV appearences and then nothing. The probably should have worked Prince a little harder, and held off releasing the album until Prince had one ready, but in the nearly 3 years since Condensate came out, there has been no Prince album...it would have been nice for a tour with the Time and a combo of Prince and The Revolution with some of the SOTT band. A pipe dream for sure, but it would've been huge.

I thought perhaps there might have been an interview with Morris about it, but I couldn't find anything specific about it. I was fortunate enough to met Jellybean a couple of years ago, and we talked about the O7ven fallout and he was very forthright about how upset he was at Jesse for leaving.

It is a real shame. I would have loved to have seen an O7ven gig and there was talk of them coming to Europe before Jesse split.

I think you're right, the original group will likely never reform again unless Prince makes it happen. Hopefully I'll at least get to see the Morris/Monte/Jellybean lineup at some point.

I also wonder if perhaps the reason Prince didn't let The Time or The Family use their names is because of the Warners negotations. For example, a reformed Time with their proper name could have been part of the Purple Rain 30th project in one way or another, if they'd held off until Prince and Warners came to their agreement.

But, actually, all that's needed for a new album by "The Time" is really Prince and Morris. After all, both the first two albums and the shelved "Corporate World" album were 95% Prince and Morris. It's only really Ice Cream Castles and Pandemonium that had significant input from others (aside from After Hi School that Dez wrote).

So, with The O7ven being unable to hold it together, I'd actually really love it if Prince and Morris patched up their differences and made a new Time record.

I don't think Morris has any differences. It's Prince being in this weird mode he's in. He basically went from 1992-2000 without any involvement with The Time, and then I think from 2001-2004 did a thing or two with Morris, and then had them open a few Musicology shows. Since that was Prince's really only big tour of the US since the 1980's...a 2004 Time album would've been really big for the hardcores, and probably would've at least hit the Top 20. Condensate hit #58 in 2011...so surely a real Time album in 2004 might have hit #20 or so with a tour with Prince. Whatever mode Prince was in with the Time, he has been in since 2005...so maybe it's "Time" again...lol. I've talked to everyone in the Time other than Jimmy Jam, and Jesse, and my opinion is that they are bitter about some things, but they have a deep love and respect for Prince, that Prince simply doesn't return. I talked with all of them about it, though not much to Terry, as he has made enough public comments to make it obvious that he wants another Time album and movie.

As far as your statements about the Warners thing....I'm not buying it. Prince just wanted to be on a power trip about the name. Other than a few diehards like us, NOBODY gives a damn about The Family, and sadly, The Time are almost forgotten. Warners could care less about those albums...if they did, they would've been remastered as well, but in the press release, Purple Rain was all that was really mentioned. They really should license them out to Rhino or somebody willing to get deluxe versions of all the old associated artist albums from 1980-1995...but it won't happen.

stillwaiting said:

I don't think Morris has any differences. It's Prince being in this weird mode he's in. He basically went from 1992-2000 without any involvement with The Time

Prince performed with Morris Day & The Time in 1999:

1 January 1999

http://www.princevault.co...uary,_1999

17 December 1999

http://www.princevault.co...er,_1999-1

I remember reading about a meeting that Prince had with the Time,after one of his Lovesexy shows in 1988.He sat the guys down and played them a few tracks that he composed.Everyone was very enthusiastic and I think,at that moment,they all became friends again and decided to proceed with a reunion.

So,I think Prince and Morris reconciled in 1988,at this meeting.

I think it's a shame that their relationship soured again,in recent years These guys should be best friends! They should be sitting around,having beers,talking about old times,occasionally working on music together.I think Prince has a problem with maintaining friendships with longtime associates.

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[Edited 8/9/14 11:01am]

stillwaiting said:

I don't think Morris has any differences. It's Prince being in this weird mode he's in. He basically went from 1992-2000 without any involvement with The Time, and then I think from 2001-2004 did a thing or two with Morris, and then had them open a few Musicology shows. Since that was Prince's really only big tour of the US since the 1980's...a 2004 Time album would've been really big for the hardcores, and probably would've at least hit the Top 20. Condensate hit #58 in 2011...so surely a real Time album in 2004 might have hit #20 or so with a tour with Prince. Whatever mode Prince was in with the Time, he has been in since 2005...so maybe it's "Time" again...lol. I've talked to everyone in the Time other than Jimmy Jam, and Jesse, and my opinion is that they are bitter about some things, but they have a deep love and respect for Prince, that Prince simply doesn't return. I talked with all of them about it, though not much to Terry, as he has made enough public comments to make it obvious that he wants another Time album and movie.

As far as your statements about the Warners thing....I'm not buying it. Prince just wanted to be on a power trip about the name. Other than a few diehards like us, NOBODY gives a damn about The Family, and sadly, The Time are almost forgotten. Warners could care less about those albums...if they did, they would've been remastered as well, but in the press release, Purple Rain was all that was really mentioned. They really should license them out to Rhino or somebody willing to get deluxe versions of all the old associated artist albums from 1980-1995...but it won't happen.

The only reason the Prince/Time/Vanity6/SheilaE/Family/Madhouse catalog and vault material hasn't been cataloged remastered and released is Prince himself. Too many hits and too much potential for money there for a label not to care about those albums. SOTT wasn't mentioned either, I'm sure it's not because they don't care about the record.

langebleu said:

stillwaiting said:

I don't think Morris has any differences. It's Prince being in this weird mode he's in. He basically went from 1992-2000 without any involvement with The Time

Prince performed with Morris Day & The Time in 1999:

1 January 1999

http://www.princevault.co...uary,_1999

17 December 1999

http://www.princevault.co...er,_1999-1

Obvious omissions. I was at the 1-1-99 show...it's where I first met Terry Lewis. My point being Prince has had long term periods of time where he simply ignores The Time and its members.

I don't remember which interview it was or when, but didn't Prince claim something like he had changed recently and that in his past he could easily turn on people and never contact them again? It's a shame. I'm glad they DID reconcile their friendship though, since they go WAY back. Morris was always nice about Prince though. He said something along the effect of, "I still consider him my friend"

funksterr said:

stillwaiting said:

As far as your statements about the Warners thing....I'm not buying it. Prince just wanted to be on a power trip about the name. Other than a few diehards like us, NOBODY gives a damn about The Family, and sadly, The Time are almost forgotten. Warners could care less about those albums...if they did, they would've been remastered as well, but in the press release, Purple Rain was all that was really mentioned. They really should license them out to Rhino or somebody willing to get deluxe versions of all the old associated artist albums from 1980-1995...but it won't happen.

The only reason the Prince/Time/Vanity6/SheilaE/Family/Madhouse catalog and vault material hasn't been cataloged remastered and released is Prince himself. Too many hits and too much potential for money there for a label not to care about those albums. SOTT wasn't mentioned either, I'm sure it's not because they don't care about the record.

It's easy to think that from a hardcore fan perspective, but the industry is driven towards artists under 30, and certainly not artists over 55. Only real potential for money might be box sets including all the albums from each artist in an individual set, and the profit margin does not have Warners foaming at the mouth. There's a reason many of those releases are out of print...few really care. Most of those releases sold 600,000 or less 30 years ago. Simple investigations of remaster sales show that multi-million selling albums only do ok with remasters. Remasters of lower selling albums only sell to the hardcore, and most of us are getting old or just don't care. I'll put it this way: The Family and Andre Cymone comebacks came and went with almost no attention. The Cymone remasters sold a tiny amount..

funksterr said:

stillwaiting said:

I don't think Morris has any differences. It's Prince being in this weird mode he's in. He basically went from 1992-2000 without any involvement with The Time, and then I think from 2001-2004 did a thing or two with Morris, and then had them open a few Musicology shows. Since that was Prince's really only big tour of the US since the 1980's...a 2004 Time album would've been really big for the hardcores, and probably would've at least hit the Top 20. Condensate hit #58 in 2011...so surely a real Time album in 2004 might have hit #20 or so with a tour with Prince. Whatever mode Prince was in with the Time, he has been in since 2005...so maybe it's "Time" again...lol. I've talked to everyone in the Time other than Jimmy Jam, and Jesse, and my opinion is that they are bitter about some things, but they have a deep love and respect for Prince, that Prince simply doesn't return. I talked with all of them about it, though not much to Terry, as he has made enough public comments to make it obvious that he wants another Time album and movie.

As far as your statements about the Warners thing....I'm not buying it. Prince just wanted to be on a power trip about the name. Other than a few diehards like us, NOBODY gives a damn about The Family, and sadly, The Time are almost forgotten. Warners could care less about those albums...if they did, they would've been remastered as well, but in the press release, Purple Rain was all that was really mentioned. They really should license them out to Rhino or somebody willing to get deluxe versions of all the old associated artist albums from 1980-1995...but it won't happen.

The only reason the Prince/Time/Vanity6/SheilaE/Family/Madhouse catalog and vault material hasn't been cataloged remastered and released is Prince himself. Too many hits and too much potential for money there for a label not to care about those albums. SOTT wasn't mentioned either, I'm sure it's not because they don't care about the record.

WB don't own most of the Paisley Park albums since 1994. They still had the pre-Paisley Park albums and a few PP releases, though. They put some of those records on iTunes thru Rhino Records. The Prince and The Time albums seem to have disappeared from there but strangely enough the Sheila E. albums are still there: could it be that Prince couldn't manage to get the masters of those back?

databank said:

funksterr said:

The only reason the Prince/Time/Vanity6/SheilaE/Family/Madhouse catalog and vault material hasn't been cataloged remastered and released is Prince himself. Too many hits and too much potential for money there for a label not to care about those albums. SOTT wasn't mentioned either, I'm sure it's not because they don't care about the record.

WB don't own most of the Paisley Park albums since 1994. They still had the pre-Paisley Park albums and a few PP releases, though. They put some of those records on iTunes thru Rhino Records. The Prince and The Time albums seem to have disappeared from there but strangely enough the Sheila E. albums are still there: could it be that Prince couldn't manage to get the masters of those back?

I'm sure Prince had this big battle with Warners, and the negotiating parter said..."Look...you can have Purple Rain, 1999, etc...but you CAN'T have Jill Jones, Madhouse, and The Time!!!"

Seriously? The associated artist albums have importance to us...nobody else. Every single non-Prince release combined maybe sold half of what Purple Rain did, and we're talking 20 albums or more. Not a cash cow for anybody. If it was, there would be news stories about it.

Militant said:

I was wondering about this, this morning.

We know they fell out during the Purple Rain filming, which led to Morris having to sort out his own invitation to the premiere with Warners, and then the break up of The Time. So this was in 84...... Morris then went solo, had solo albums in 1985 and 1987.....


We know they were working together in Summer 1989 as this is when Prince and Morris recorded the "Corporate World" album and also Morris played drums on "New Power Generation".

Does anyone know if there were any media reports at the time about them mending their relationship and starting to work together again? Were there any reports about the "Corporate World" album before it was shelved and re-tooled into the GB/Pandemonium era with the rest of the original members?

My guess, but it's just a guess, is that decided it was time to revive The Time (no pun intended) either because of GB or in the absolute and he contacted Morris to offer him to do Corporate World, feeling there was no need for anyone but Morris and Jerome to do this. Morris was probably in need for money or a career relauch since his first 2 albums had only been minor successes (by a major's standards) and he decided to answer the call and leave their old rivalries behind. It would be great indeed if Morris or Jerome addressed this in a interview one day. We don't even know how and if CW was related to the GB project at all at this stage, I find this very intriguing.

databank said:

Militant said:

I was wondering about this, this morning.

We know they fell out during the Purple Rain filming, which led to Morris having to sort out his own invitation to the premiere with Warners, and then the break up of The Time. So this was in 84...... Morris then went solo, had solo albums in 1985 and 1987.....


We know they were working together in Summer 1989 as this is when Prince and Morris recorded the "Corporate World" album and also Morris played drums on "New Power Generation".

Does anyone know if there were any media reports at the time about them mending their relationship and starting to work together again? Were there any reports about the "Corporate World" album before it was shelved and re-tooled into the GB/Pandemonium era with the rest of the original members?

My guess, but it's just a guess, is that decided it was time to revive The Time (no pun intended) either because of GB or in the absolute and he contacted Morris to offer him to do Corporate World, feeling there was no need for anyone but Morris and Jerome to do this. Morris was probably in need for money or a career relauch since his first 2 albums had only been minor successes (by a major's standards) and he decided to answer the call and leave their old rivalries behind. It would be great indeed if Morris or Jerome addressed this in a interview one day. We don't even know how and if CW was related to the GB project at all at this stage, I find this very intriguing.

Somebody should ask Jesse Johnson. If his memory is as good as it seems, he seems to know a lot of minor details. He's a bit crazy though, which I like, but it might not help here.

stillwaiting said:

databank said:

WB don't own most of the Paisley Park albums since 1994. They still had the pre-Paisley Park albums and a few PP releases, though. They put some of those records on iTunes thru Rhino Records. The Prince and The Time albums seem to have disappeared from there but strangely enough the Sheila E. albums are still there: could it be that Prince couldn't manage to get the masters of those back?

I'm sure Prince had this big battle with Warners, and the negotiating parter said..."Look...you can have Purple Rain, 1999, etc...but you CAN'T have Jill Jones, Madhouse, and The Time!!!"

Seriously? The associated artist albums have importance to us...nobody else. Every single non-Prince release combined maybe sold half of what Purple Rain did, and we're talking 20 albums or more. Not a cash cow for anybody. If it was, there would be news stories about it.

I'm gonna write it again in bold: WB lost the rights to Jill Jones, Madhouse and most PP albums in 1994. What we know WB kept for sure after 94 is the 4 The Time albums, the 3 Sheila E. albums, V6 and A6 and possibly a few others, as we don't know the contract details for each record. We know for sure that among the albums got back in 94 were the 2 Madhouse albums, the 2 Mavis Staples albums, the 2 George Clinton albums, Ingrid Chavez' album, Carmen Electra and IIRC the 2 Eric Leeds albums as well, and we have strong hints to lead us to think that Mazarati and Good Question were in his hands too, and since most of the other PP releases reverted back to him at this time, I see no reason to suppose Jill Jones didn't. Taja Sevelle just rereleased Love Is Contagious as a single on iTunes and seems to own the masters but since there's a new cover art I wonder if it may not be a brand new recording of it instead of the Paisley Park version.

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Up until very recently, WB had uploaded the 4 The Time albums and the first 2 Sheila E. albums on iTunes. As of today the Time albums are gone but the Sheila E. ones are still there, and if I'm not mistaken (I'd checked when the new WB deal was announced) the third one has been uploaded very recently under a Rhino licence, stating that WB owns the masters, so it may indeed indicate that WB wouldn't let go of the Sheila E. albums, or if they did it's likely they'll be gone before soon.

stillwaiting said:

databank said:

My guess, but it's just a guess, is that decided it was time to revive The Time (no pun intended) either because of GB or in the absolute and he contacted Morris to offer him to do Corporate World, feeling there was no need for anyone but Morris and Jerome to do this. Morris was probably in need for money or a career relauch since his first 2 albums had only been minor successes (by a major's standards) and he decided to answer the call and leave their old rivalries behind. It would be great indeed if Morris or Jerome addressed this in a interview one day. We don't even know how and if CW was related to the GB project at all at this stage, I find this very intriguing.

Somebody should ask Jesse Johnson. If his memory is as good as it seems, he seems to know a lot of minor details. He's a bit crazy though, which I like, but it might not help here.

Well, he wasn't involved at this point but yeah it's very likely that Morris told the other members how it happened.

funksterr said:Too many hits and too much potential for money there for a label not to care about those albums.

I agree, but at this point, I wonder if they have confidence in themselves knowing how to make money off them. I'm sure over time they've had a few different plans on how to go about it, but the industry is confused. They know Prince has burned out a lot of his core audience, so they only have one shot to do a reissue. It's not like some archives where they can just repackage it every 6 years.

stillwaiting said:

databank said:

WB don't own most of the Paisley Park albums since 1994. They still had the pre-Paisley Park albums and a few PP releases, though. They put some of those records on iTunes thru Rhino Records. The Prince and The Time albums seem to have disappeared from there but strangely enough the Sheila E. albums are still there: could it be that Prince couldn't manage to get the masters of those back?

I'm sure Prince had this big battle with Warners, and the negotiating parter said..."Look...you can have Purple Rain, 1999, etc...but you CAN'T have Jill Jones, Madhouse, and The Time!!!"

Seriously? The associated artist albums have importance to us...nobody else. Every single non-Prince release combined maybe sold half of what Purple Rain did, and we're talking 20 albums or more. Not a cash cow for anybody. If it was, there would be news stories about it.

The Time and Vanity 6 has it's own following and place in r&b/funk history and 80's nostalgia seperate from Prince. Sheila E is more tied to Prince's image, but The Time and V6 aren't the typical forgotten protoge projects. Morris Day is an important and influential figure to R&B music, Prince or no Prince. They deserve their own remasters.

^What most people here fail to understand is that:

1/ Most of the albums released in the world sell a few dozen thousand copies at most, and remain profitable despite production costs.

2/ A reissue selling that much is even more profitable because there are no production costs (and when done, remastering a record isn't as costly as recording it).

3/ Thanks to the internet, niche audience now have an easy access to niche products and while record sales overall have suffered a lot, niche products benefit from this new equation.

4/ Hundreds of obscure albums by obscure artists are being reissued every year by small labels or sublabels of majors, some remastered some not, most with bonus tracks, so there is no question about a market being there.

5/ Digital reissues (if only on iTunes and Amazon) is going to become a bigger trend since it avoids manufacturing cost and allows to reissue albums with almost zero cost and maximul profit.

6/ Given 1 to 5, there is definitely a market for each and every 's side-projects and other Paisley Park albums, but maybe WB isn't the best label to rerelease them, and given that we don't know yet whether has serious projects for his back catalogue now that he's got everything back, or if he's gonna end-up letting everything rotting in the vault, there's no way to be sure, but the argument that there's no money to be made is absurd. There's no SO MUCH money to make, sure, but rereleasing those albums wouldn't be at a loss either.

CharismaDove said:

I don't remember which interview it was or when, but didn't Prince claim something like he had changed recently and that in his past he could easily turn on people and never contact them again? It's a shame.

I remember in a 90s interview,Prince was asked if he misses Wendy,Lisa and other associates from his past.He simply said "Attachment is stagnation",implying that it's not good to hold on to the past

It seems that Prince has alienated everyone that he's ever worked or been involved with. He seems like he doesn't hold or keep friendships well, and once he's parted ways with you, he's done. It's sad really, because in the end, he could just wind up being a lonely old man with no one in his life at all.

1contessa said:

It seems that Prince has alienated everyone that he's ever worked or been involved with. He seems like he doesn't hold or keep friendships well, and once he's parted ways with you, he's done. It's sad really, because in the end, he could just wind up being a lonely old man with no one in his life at all.

he's gonna wind up being a lonely old man with no 'real' friends.

databank said:

^What most people here fail to understand is that:

1/ Most of the albums released in the world sell a few dozen thousand copies at most, and remain profitable despite production costs.

2/ A reissue selling that much is even more profitable because there are no production costs (and when done, remastering a record isn't as costly as recording it).

3/ Thanks to the internet, niche audience now have an easy access to niche products and while record sales overall have suffered a lot, niche products benefit from this new equation.

4/ Hundreds of obscure albums by obscure artists are being reissued every year by small labels or sublabels of majors, some remastered some not, most with bonus tracks, so there is no question about a market being there.

5/ Digital reissues (if only on iTunes and Amazon) is going to become a bigger trend since it avoids manufacturing cost and allows to reissue albums with almost zero cost and maximul profit.

6/ Given 1 to 5, there is definitely a market for each and every 's side-projects and other Paisley Park albums, but maybe WB isn't the best label to rerelease them, and given that we don't know yet whether has serious projects for his back catalogue now that he's got everything back, or if he's gonna end-up letting everything rotting in the vault, there's no way to be sure, but the argument that there's no money to be made is absurd. There's no SO MUCH money to make, sure, but rereleasing those albums wouldn't be at a loss either.

Since Prince will have involvement no matter who owns the rights, I just don't think he cares about selling 3,000-10,000 copies of projects from years past....the main reason we won't see them. I doubt it matters to him. His own remasters of albums other than his top 3 probably won't sell enough to matter....Warners only cares hoping Purple Rain brings in some money, and yes it will, but it may sell WAY WAY less than both Prince and Warners expect............but I'm hoping all these things get released, but I just don't think many of them will...sad, but that's the way it is.

1contessa said:

It seems that Prince has alienated everyone that he's ever worked or been involved with. He seems like he doesn't hold or keep friendships well, and once he's parted ways with you, he's done. It's sad really, because in the end, he could just wind up being a lonely old man with no one in his life at all.

Many of them yes, but not all, I think most of the bandmembers he had after 1991 would gladly come back, most of the conflicts he had with bandmembers and associates were in the 80's, when those guys considered themselves equal to him and grew a friendship with him that was someone betrayed by everyone's ego issues, both 's and theirs. Starting in 91, his bandmembers saw themselves as employees more than friends and this allowed the relationships to be more balanced. He may have been a bitch of a boss, but that's totally different from being a bitch of a friend.

stillwaiting said:

databank said:

^What most people here fail to understand is that:

1/ Most of the albums released in the world sell a few dozen thousand copies at most, and remain profitable despite production costs.

2/ A reissue selling that much is even more profitable because there are no production costs (and when done, remastering a record isn't as costly as recording it).

3/ Thanks to the internet, niche audience now have an easy access to niche products and while record sales overall have suffered a lot, niche products benefit from this new equation.

4/ Hundreds of obscure albums by obscure artists are being reissued every year by small labels or sublabels of majors, some remastered some not, most with bonus tracks, so there is no question about a market being there.

5/ Digital reissues (if only on iTunes and Amazon) is going to become a bigger trend since it avoids manufacturing cost and allows to reissue albums with almost zero cost and maximul profit.

6/ Given 1 to 5, there is definitely a market for each and every 's side-projects and other Paisley Park albums, but maybe WB isn't the best label to rerelease them, and given that we don't know yet whether has serious projects for his back catalogue now that he's got everything back, or if he's gonna end-up letting everything rotting in the vault, there's no way to be sure, but the argument that there's no money to be made is absurd. There's no SO MUCH money to make, sure, but rereleasing those albums wouldn't be at a loss either.

Since Prince will have involvement no matter who owns the rights, I just don't think he cares about selling 3,000-10,000 copies of projects from years past....the main reason we won't see them. I doubt it matters to him. His own remasters of albums other than his top 3 probably won't sell enough to matter....Warners only cares hoping Purple Rain brings in some money, and yes it will, but it may sell WAY WAY less than both Prince and Warners expect............but I'm hoping all these things get released, but I just don't think many of them will...sad, but that's the way it is.

Only time will tell, let's cross fingers ^^

SoulAlive said:

I remember reading about a meeting that Prince had with the Time,after one of his Lovesexy shows in 1988.He sat the guys down and played them a few tracks that he composed.Everyone was very enthusiastic and I think,at that moment,they all became friends again and decided to proceed with a reunion.

So,I think Prince and Morris reconciled in 1988,at this meeting.

I think it's a shame that their relationship soured again,in recent years These guys should be best friends! They should be sitting around,having beers,talking about old times,occasionally working on music together.I think Prince has a problem with maintaining friendships with longtime associates.

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[Edited 8/9/14 11:01am]

Thanks! That's the kind of information I was looking for.

I wonder if Prince prefers it these days when Morris is doing the "Morris Day & The Time" touring lineup with just him, Bean and Monte. Because he didn't mind Morris and Jerome joining him at Coachella in 2008. But he didn't want anything to do with the O7ven stuff when it was the full lineup.

Militant said:

SoulAlive said:

I remember reading about a meeting that Prince had with the Time,after one of his Lovesexy shows in 1988.He sat the guys down and played them a few tracks that he composed.Everyone was very enthusiastic and I think,at that moment,they all became friends again and decided to proceed with a reunion.

So,I think Prince and Morris reconciled in 1988,at this meeting.

I think it's a shame that their relationship soured again,in recent years These guys should be best friends! They should be sitting around,having beers,talking about old times,occasionally working on music together.I think Prince has a problem with maintaining friendships with longtime associates.

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Thanks! That's the kind of information I was looking for.

I wonder if Prince prefers it these days when Morris is doing the "Morris Day & The Time" touring lineup with just him, Bean and Monte. Because he didn't mind Morris and Jerome joining him at Coachella in 2008. But he didn't want anything to do with the O7ven stuff when it was the full lineup.

I'd missed this reply, great info indeed

SoulAlive said:

1contessa said:

It seems that Prince has alienated everyone that he's ever worked or been involved with. He seems like he doesn't hold or keep friendships well, and once he's parted ways with you, he's done. It's sad really, because in the end, he could just wind up being a lonely old man with no one in his life at all.

he's gonna wind up being a lonely old man with no 'real' friends.

OR you could look at it as these are not / never were 'friendships'. It's all strictly business, and these days the former protogee acts bring nothing marketable to the table. They served their purpose back in the day... additional revenue streams for Prince's studio work.

How many of your former coworkers do you consider 'friends'?

S3V3N said:

OR you could look at it as these are not / never were 'friendships'. It's all strictly business, and these days the former protogee acts bring nothing marketable to the table. They served their purpose back in the day... additional revenue streams for Prince's studio work.

How many of your former coworkers do you consider 'friends'?

but why does it have to be "strictly business" all the time?

What's wrong with being "friends" with guys like Jimmy Jam,Terry Lewis and Morris Day? They all have alot in common.They're all a part of what became the Minneapolis Sound.

I'm actually still friends with several of my former co-workers No need to stop being their friends just because we don't work together anymore!

S3V3N said:

SoulAlive said:

he's gonna wind up being a lonely old man with no 'real' friends.

OR you could look at it as these are not / never were 'friendships'. It's all strictly business, and these days the former protogee acts bring nothing marketable to the table. They served their purpose back in the day... additional revenue streams for Prince's studio work.

How many of your former coworkers do you consider 'friends'?

You can't tell me that some of the folks that Prince worked with for many years were just business relationships. Come on, he had to be friends with many of them, especially after working with them for years at a stretch. Also, if you grew up with someone, a part of the same school, neighborhood, etc, odds are you were considered a friend. I don't know, it just seems like a cold hearted person that just cuts others off completely, having nothing else to do with them, if once you were friends, co-workers, whatever.