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Reply #30 posted 08/29/14 9:04am

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databank said:

hopefularranger said:


I'm wondering there is another NPG album in the can. Will he release it?

Huh? Who said that?


Typo. Should be, "I'm wondering if there is another NPG album in the can."

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Reply #31 posted 08/29/14 9:05am

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A thread was closed that was discussing the 2011-2014 tracks that didn't make the cut in favor of this more general outtakes thread, so I'm gonna stick to 2011 onwards.

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I've gotta admit I was at the same time annoyed and relieved that so many of the 2011-2014 tracks didn't make the cut for the 2 new albums. Annoyed because I find some of them wonderful and I'd have loved to have them sequenced on a proper album instead of just flying around in my harddrive. Relieved because of course it means more new tracks, and there's a part of me that woulda been frustrated to have so many tracks I was already familiar with on the new album. Would there have been a third record it'd have been OK, but with 2 I'd ather have more new material I guess.

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Nonetheless there r several tracks I really like that probably could have made the cut in terms of cohesiveness of the sound:

Extraloveable, Boyfriend, Ain't Gonna Miss U When U're Gone and Fallinlove2nite would probably have been perfect on the synthfunk/R&B/radio-friendly sound of AOA.

Screwdriver, Bambi 2013 and Live Out Loud would also probably have worked on PlecEl (PE is Planet Earth so we may need to start calling it PlecEl or PLEL, IDK?).

Others I liked a lot were the Octopus and Menstrual jams but I guess they were too "Xpectation" for PLEL, R&RLA but it was maybe too rock for AOA and too pop for PLEL, and my little darling Same Page, Different Book, which I really cherish but probably had too much of an organic, classic funk vibe for either album. On the other hand Musicology and 3121 managed to have a cohesive vibe with very different tracks, so nothing I guess was impossible in the absolute.

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So in the end what do I say? I say once all that BS with WB is over, prince could and should release one or 2 new digital-only albums in the vein of TCI and TS, compiling random internet tracks from 2004 onwards. I'm quite sure some of the Musicology era virtual b-sides/non-album singles and later orphan songs such as Song Of The Heart, F.U.N.K., In A Large Room, Rich Friends, Hot Summer, Turn Me Loose and the 2011-2014 online tracks could make a nice compilation album or 2. But I'm not dreaming, I guess it's out of the question.

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Reply #32 posted 08/29/14 9:28am

databank

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hopefularranger said:

databank said:

Huh? Who said that?


Typo. Should be, "I'm wondering if there is another NPG album in the can."

Ah OK. Thx 4 clarifying.

Well it's been 16 years since Newpower Soul and The War (13 since the cancelation of Peace) so I'd say it's unlikely. Now why not, sure. But there's is zero reason to assume this may be happening again or that any announced "surprise" should be a NPG album unless it's been explicitely hinted at by an official source.

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Reply #33 posted 08/29/14 9:31am

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OperatingThetan said:

Well, the Purplessence twitter account is trailing the possibility of another suprise in October once AOA and PLECTRUMELECTRUM have been released so perhaps it's this NPG album? Or possibly, the Purple Rain remaster.

Whatever the Purplessence account looks to be official.

Im pretty sure it is. When the entire Prince camp tells you to follow someone its most likely because its an official account.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #34 posted 08/29/14 12:37pm

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lezama said:

OperatingThetan said:

Well, the Purplessence twitter account is trailing the possibility of another suprise in October once AOA and PLECTRUMELECTRUM have been released so perhaps it's this NPG album? Or possibly, the Purple Rain remaster.

Whatever the Purplessence account looks to be official.

Im pretty sure it is. When the entire Prince camp tells you to follow someone its most likely because its an official account.

My thoughts also.

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Reply #35 posted 08/29/14 1:04pm

paulludvig

databank said:

paulludvig said:

Da Bourgeoisie is another recent one with horns. I think many of these tracks were recorded with the hornheadz rather than the npg horns.

Actually DaBourgeoisie is the only one of the recent tracks with horns that WAS recorded with the NPG Horns. The rest is Honheads all over smile

I think Big City and Shades of Umber might have been recorded with the NPG horns as well. Maybe Michael B Nelson could clarify.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #36 posted 08/29/14 1:18pm

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U Will Be was renamed and given to Rita Ora according to Funkenberry. Doesn't even resemble the same track as Ora and P reportedly rap on it now. :/

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Reply #37 posted 08/30/14 7:18am

tatocorcu

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U Will Be was renamed and given to Rita Ora according to Funkenberry. Doesn't even resemble the same track as Ora and P reportedly rap on it now. :/


Are you sure you are not mixing songs up?
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Reply #38 posted 08/30/14 8:38am

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I'm sure. "U Will Be" was performed at the Forum shows and then was given to Andy where a demo was "released" and then it has been changed and given to Ora.

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Reply #39 posted 08/30/14 9:51am

tatocorcu

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I'm sure. "U Will Be" was performed at the Forum shows and then was given to Andy where a demo was "released" and then it has been changed and given to Ora.


Ok - I was under the impression that the Rita Ora song was called champagne kisses or something like that, and that her rapping happens in one of the AOA songs. Oh well...
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Reply #40 posted 08/30/14 10:35am

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tatocorcu said:

banishedones666 said:

I'm sure. "U Will Be" was performed at the Forum shows and then was given to Andy where a demo was "released" and then it has been changed and given to Ora.

Ok - I was under the impression that the Rita Ora song was called champagne kisses or something like that, and that her rapping happens in one of the AOA songs. Oh well...

U Will Be = Champagne Kisses now.

Rita Ora: "It was incredible. I went to Minneapolis. I still haven't wrapped my head around it actually. It is probably one of the most surreal things I've ever done. I can't really explain it, you kind of have to listen to the song. It was called 'U WIll Be', then it was called 'Pink Champagne', and now it's called 'Champagne Kisses'. It has such great lyrics - so poetic, it's so nice. There's a line where he says, 'The taste of you with someone else, like chocolate cake with no milk'."



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Reply #41 posted 08/30/14 1:16pm

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paulludvig said:

databank said:

Actually DaBourgeoisie is the only one of the recent tracks with horns that WAS recorded with the NPG Horns. The rest is Honheads all over smile

I think Big City and Shades of Umber might have been recorded with the NPG horns as well. Maybe Michael B Nelson could clarify.

I was talking about the songs that were officially released/streamed, IDK anything about those 2 (never even heard them ^^).

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Reply #42 posted 08/30/14 2:22pm

tatocorcu

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tatocorcu said:


banishedones666 said:

I'm sure. "U Will Be" was performed at the Forum shows and then was given to Andy where a demo was "released" and then it has been changed and given to Ora.



Ok - I was under the impression that the Rita Ora song was called champagne kisses or something like that, and that her rapping happens in one of the AOA songs. Oh well...

U Will Be = Champagne Kisses now.



Rita Ora: "It was incredible. I went to Minneapolis. I still haven't wrapped my head around it actually. It is probably one of the most surreal things I've ever done. I can't really explain it, you kind of have to listen to the song. It was called 'U WIll Be', then it was called 'Pink Champagne', and now it's called 'Champagne Kisses'. It has such great lyrics - so poetic, it's so nice. There's a line where he says, 'The taste of you with someone else, like chocolate cake with no milk'."




Thanks - I hadn't read that before. Shame, it's a great song; I don't mind Rita Ora, and it should be ok if they keep it simple, I just hope they don't make it sound as generic as some of her music sounds...
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Reply #43 posted 08/30/14 5:10pm

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banishedones666 said:

U Will Be = Champagne Kisses now.


Rita Ora: It was called 'U WIll Be', then it was called 'Pink Champagne', and now it's called 'Champagne Kisses'. It has such great lyrics - so poetic, it's so nice. There's a line where he says, 'The taste of you with someone else, like chocolate cake with no milk'."



Damn sad
He should have released a crystal clear copy of that track that was posted at one time

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #44 posted 09/02/14 7:03pm

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databank said:

A thread was closed that was discussing the 2011-2014 tracks that didn't make the cut in favor of this more general outtakes thread, so I'm gonna stick to 2011 onwards.


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I've gotta admit I was at the same time annoyed and relieved that so many of the 2011-2014 tracks didn't make the cut for the 2 new albums. Annoyed because I find some of them wonderful and I'd have loved to have them sequenced on a proper album instead of just flying around in my harddrive. Relieved because of course it means more new tracks, and there's a part of me that woulda been frustrated to have so many tracks I was already familiar with on the new album. Would there have been a third record it'd have been OK, but with 2 I'd ather have more new material I guess.


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Nonetheless there r several tracks I really like that probably could have made the cut in terms of cohesiveness of the sound:


Extraloveable, Boyfriend, Ain't Gonna Miss U When U're Gone and Fallinlove2nite would probably have been perfect on the synthfunk/R&B/radio-friendly sound of AOA.


Screwdriver, Bambi 2013 and Live Out Loud would also probably have worked on PlecEl (PE is Planet Earth so we may need to start calling it PlecEl or PLEL, IDK?).


Others I liked a lot were the Octopus and Menstrual jams but I guess they were too "Xpectation" for PLEL, R&RLA but it was maybe too rock for AOA and too pop for PLEL, and my little darling Same Page, Different Book, which I really cherish but probably had too much of an organic, classic funk vibe for either album. On the other hand Musicology and 3121 managed to have a cohesive vibe with very different tracks, so nothing I guess was impossible in the absolute.


.


So in the end what do I say? I say once all that BS with WB is over, prince could and should release one or 2 new digital-only albums in the vein of TCI and TS, compiling random internet tracks from 2004 onwards. I'm quite sure some of the Musicology era virtual b-sides/non-album singles and later orphan songs such as Song Of The Heart, F.U.N.K., In A Large Room, Rich Friends, Hot Summer, Turn Me Loose and the 2011-2014 online tracks could make a nice compilation album or 2. But I'm not dreaming, I guess it's out of the question.



Why do you need them in an album when you already have them? Compiling these into an album would be a monumental waste of time and resources, on his part and the paying audience. He should continue to make them for sale, but why waste the energy on putting together an album of leftovers and disparate one-offs from almost 2 years ago?
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Reply #45 posted 09/03/14 3:11am

Rebeljuice

hopefularranger said:

leadline said:

I would think he definitely has a recent horns heavy album stacked away.


I'm wondering there is another NPG album in the can. Will he release it?

I imagine that P fought very hard with WB to get PE released along side AOA. I doubt WB would allow yet another album to be released. Unless, that is, he did it like Exodus and took a back seat on the vocals and credited a pseudonym (Tora Tora) on the record.

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Reply #46 posted 09/03/14 8:08am

lwr001

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leadline said:

I would think he definitely has a recent horns heavy album stacked away.

Yup. Big City, Extraloveable, Ain't gonna miss U, Groovy Potential, Boyfriend, Chades of Umber, Fallinginlove. This was the album I was hoping for, actually.

no one wants a big horn album' Prince realized there is no commercial viability to releasing Big fuckign City ..I , for one, hope hopes he leaves the horns out of his next tour

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Reply #47 posted 09/03/14 8:11am

lwr001

Rebeljuice said:

hopefularranger said:


I'm wondering there is another NPG album in the can. Will he release it?

I imagine that P fought very hard with WB to get PE released along side AOA. I doubt WB would allow yet another album to be released. Unless, that is, he did it like Exodus and took a back seat on the vocals and credited a pseudonym (Tora Tora) on the record.

how do you know he fought hard, maybe it was easy

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Reply #48 posted 09/03/14 8:38am

Rebeljuice

lwr001 said:

Rebeljuice said:

I imagine that P fought very hard with WB to get PE released along side AOA. I doubt WB would allow yet another album to be released. Unless, that is, he did it like Exodus and took a back seat on the vocals and credited a pseudonym (Tora Tora) on the record.

how do you know he fought hard, maybe it was easy

Notice how I used the words "I image" to precede the rest of the sentence? You see, an opinion was expressed which is why I preceded my comment with those words. Maybe you accidently read those words as "I know". Easy mistake to make.

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Bloody factual police everywhere! smile

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Reply #49 posted 09/03/14 9:29am

lwr001

Rebeljuice said:

lwr001 said:

how do you know he fought hard, maybe it was easy

Notice how I used the words "I image" to precede the rest of the sentence? You see, an opinion was expressed which is why I preceded my comment with those words. Maybe you accidently read those words as "I know". Easy mistake to make.

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Bloody factual police everywhere! smile

touche

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Reply #50 posted 09/03/14 10:14am

luvsexy4all

why all the bitching? he's done this his whole career......except NOW u actually get to hear tracks left off albums.....and STILL u aint happy

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Reply #51 posted 09/03/14 12:38pm

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A song I love is : Liathach. It was performed live on a few dates in 2013, an instrumental written by Jo Hamilton (?) Don't know much else about this but I enjoyed the recordings I heard.

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Reply #52 posted 09/04/14 3:29am

Stranger

I am quite pleased that 'big city' got away.... Heard it in Montreux and it just seemed las vegas-cheesy with too much horns. The studio version could of course be different.

I'd rather see 'U will be', 'U want me' etc be released as b-sides or something.

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Reply #53 posted 09/04/14 4:21am

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According to Baron3121 last night on the Spreecast, Dr. Funkenberry announced that there will be a 3rd Prince album with the NPG coming with "Big City" and "Groovy Potential" among other tracks.

https://twitter.com/Baron...2729924608

[Edited 9/4/14 4:34am]

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Reply #54 posted 09/04/14 4:38am

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redflag said:

According to Baron3121 last night on the Spreecast, Dr. Funkenberry announced that there will be a 3rd Prince album with the NPG coming with "Big City" and "Groovy Potential" among other tracks.

https://twitter.com/Baron...2729924608

[Edited 9/4/14 4:34am]

Great news!

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Reply #55 posted 09/04/14 4:45am

paulludvig

OperatingThetan said:

redflag said:

According to Baron3121 last night on the Spreecast, Dr. Funkenberry announced that there will be a 3rd Prince album with the NPG coming with "Big City" and "Groovy Potential" among other tracks.

https://twitter.com/Baron...2729924608

[Edited 9/4/14 4:34am]

Great news!

Indeed!

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #56 posted 09/04/14 10:47am

lwr001

redflag said:

According to Baron3121 last night on the Spreecast, Dr. Funkenberry announced that there will be a 3rd Prince album with the NPG coming with "Big City" and "Groovy Potential" among other tracks.

https://twitter.com/Baron...2729924608

[Edited 9/4/14 4:34am]

he giving that cd to kobalt,, warners dont want it, thought groovy potential should be a b side, the rest not my cup

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Reply #57 posted 09/04/14 3:27pm

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Stranger said:

I am quite pleased that 'big city' got away.... Heard it in Montreux and it just seemed las vegas-cheesy with too much horns. The studio version could of course be different.

the short snippet we heard wouldn't do anything to change your opinion. too many horns going in too many directions/nowhere. and going there in the most bland and lazy fashion imaginable.

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Reply #58 posted 09/04/14 3:45pm

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3 albums? Hell yes, the brotha is making up for the last 4 years of no releases it seems.

Rock album, electronic(ish) album, horns album, what a great year this is turning out to be.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #59 posted 09/04/14 4:07pm

luvsexy4all

2y2d and screwdriver ...i dont believe it...

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