http://www.nme.com/magazi...al-artists

The list says: "who are the bands and artists that the current raft of musicians listened before penning their own 21st-century classics"

Prince was voted at #20...Influence on Justin Timberlake, Beck, Kanye West, the XX, Janelle Monae, Metronomy, Outkast, Gnarls Barkley, TV on the Radio etc....

Radiohead #1, Bowie #2

Right now you can`t view it online...i just bought the magazine....

hm, i'm not really suprised at Radiohead being no 1. It is the shitme after all.

Not saying Radiohead havent been influential, just that there are just other, bigger artists that could of gotten no.1

Bowie I can see in the top two, but Radiohead is rated WAY WAY WAY too high IMO. I can easily think of 20-30 or more big name artists that Prince has influenced, Radiohead I have to struggle to think of 10 minor names/bands.

lezama said:

The Cure and Slint are in there but right at the back end of 100 artists!!!!

This kind of music "journalism" is a waste of time. But hey, they need to sell magazines to earn some money, so they do another of these totally subjective lists.

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

lezama said:

Bowie I can see in the top two, but Radiohead is rated WAY WAY WAY too high IMO. I can easily think of 20-30 or more big name artists that Prince has influenced, Radiohead I have to struggle to think of 10 minor names/bands.

I agree, but what you must understand is that the NME is a very peculiarly British institution, whose tastes reflect an increasingly small subset of the population. You and I might find that it hardly reflects properly our taste in music, but for, say, my uncle (who was of this particular musical generation), I can pretty much assure you that the two most important artists within his musical "canon" would be Bowie and Radiohead, whom I personally find a tad overrated by British people anyway. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the NME is only relevant to very few people in Britain, so their lists should be taken with a pinch of salt. Excuse me for being not as erudite on this matter as I should, I am somewhat drunk

Oh I see. I was wondering why I'd never heard of this mag.

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

lezama said:

Bowie I can see in the top two, but Radiohead is rated WAY WAY WAY too high IMO. I can easily think of 20-30 or more big name artists that Prince has influenced, Radiohead I have to struggle to think of 10 minor names/bands.

I agree, but what you must understand is that the NME is a very peculiarly British institution, whose tastes reflect an increasingly small subset of the population. You and I might find that it hardly reflects properly our taste in music, but for, say, my uncle (who was of this particular musical generation), I can pretty much assure you that the two most important artists within his musical "canon" would be Bowie and Radiohead, whom I personally find a tad overrated by British people anyway. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the NME is only relevant to very few people in Britain, so their lists should be taken with a pinch of salt. Excuse me for being not as erudite on this matter as I should, I am somewhat drunk

I found myself agreeing with you....until you said Bowie was "over-rated". He's a bona-fide musical legend and boundary-pusher (his androgynous presence far preceeding Prince) and quite unique in terms of style and song-writing - on a par with Prince. No-one can over-rate his contribution to popular music. And it's not only the Brits who laud Bowie, he has global status and respect.

With regard to the NME, they had their day - there was a time when they were an important music publication, but lost their way at the beginning of the noughties. It is essentially Britain's version of Rolling Stone. Furthermore, lists like these are utterly meaningless.

Mindflux said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

lezama said: I agree, but what you must understand is that the NME is a very peculiarly British institution, whose tastes reflect an increasingly small subset of the population. You and I might find that it hardly reflects properly our taste in music, but for, say, my uncle (who was of this particular musical generation), I can pretty much assure you that the two most important artists within his musical "canon" would be Bowie and Radiohead, whom I personally find a tad overrated by British people anyway. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the NME is only relevant to very few people in Britain, so their lists should be taken with a pinch of salt. Excuse me for being not as erudite on this matter as I should, I am somewhat drunk

I found myself agreeing with you....until you said Bowie was "over-rated". He's a bona-fide musical legend and boundary-pusher (his androgynous presence far preceeding Prince) and quite unique in terms of style and song-writing - on a par with Prince. No-one can over-rate his contribution to popular music. And it's not only the Brits who laud Bowie, he has global status and respect.

With regard to the NME, they had their day - there was a time when they were an important music publication, but lost their way at the beginning of the noughties. It is essentially Britain's version of Rolling Stone. Furthermore, lists like these are utterly meaningless.

Well I did say I was drunk, my judgement was obviously impaired to the point where I failed to recognise Bowie's genius

Nah, what you say is fair enough, I'm sure most people would agree with you. "Over-rated" was the wrong word to use really (I say, backpedalling furiously ), I can't deny the profound effect he's had on pop music over the last 40+ years, all I meant was that I don't enjoy his stuff as much as some others. I mean, Hunky Dory's pretty damn great (mostly) and he has recorded some of the best pop songs of all time, but often I'm hard pressed to sustain my interest throughout a whole album.

Again you're right in saying he's not just appreciated by British audiences, but I do find that they tend to be the ones who afford him a huge amount of cultural capital, for many here he's not just a great pop musician but a pop artiste par excellence. I tend to find such veneration a bit grating so maybe I'm just kicking against a sacred cow. I mean, you probably remember that Bowie thing that was at the V&A about a year ago (maybe you went). After a while I just got a bit tired of publications like The Guardian and Time Out bandying about adjectives like "unmissable" and stuff like that, made me roll my eyes a bit. But yeah, I definately respect Bowie a great deal, just not as crazy about him as many on this here fair isle.

Anyway, to drag this post slightly back on topic, I definately agree with you regarding the Rolling Stone comparison with the NME, they're both magazines that used to have a huge amount of influence on their respective pop cultures, but have become increasingly out of touch as the years go by. I do think however, that the NME still maintains something of a unique culture, as irrelevant as it is to people not still in thrall to British guitar pop. Rolling Stone seems to me like it's now just a media mag that is really rather jack of all trades when it comes to covering popular culture.

Finally, your last sentence is bang on, but they're kinda fun to pick apart, despite the sheer pointlessness of such a task.

[Edited 8/11/14 12:58pm]

This is about the 100 most influential artists RIGHT NOW. Im surprised Prince even made the list. If it was "of all time" then sure, Prince should be on the list. But I dont think he is influencing many artists right now, as we speak. If anything, he is showing the industry how NOT to market yourself. So, I guess that is influential I suppose, just for the wrong reasons.

I am not surprised he is there. Many of the current artists call him an influence.

If he would allow, he would have been sampled on many many records or countless people would work with him... Pharell just said he woud love to make a record with him or David Guetta.

Rita Ora just made some songs with him...

Arcade Fire covered controversy recently...

Lorde cited Prince as an major influence...

Or take the Frozen soundtrack...one of the songs came out from Prince`s LETITGO

The list is endless;)

100. Deerhunter
99. The Cure
98. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
97. Iceage
96. Country Teasers
95. Dirty Projectors
94. Richard Hawley
93. Black Lips
92. St. Vincent
91. Foals
90. Flying Lotus
89. Simple Minds
88. Oneohtrix Point Never
87. Billy Bragg
86. The Triffids
85. Black Flag
84. Nine Inch Nails
83. The Jesus and Mary Chain
82. Massive Attack
81. Animal Collective
80. Dusty Springfield
79. Suicide
78. Stevie Wonder
77. Best Coast
76. Vampire Weekend
75. The Wedding Present
74. Slint
73. Wu-Tang Clan
72. Grimes
71. Rilo Kiley
70. Pharrell
69. Nick Lowe
68. The National
67. Jay Z
66. The Slits
65. Diplo
64. The Zombies
63. Talk Talk
62. The Stooges
61. DJ Shadow
60. DJ Rashad
59. Chic
58. Black Sabbath
57. James Blake
56. Happy Mondays
55. The Chills
54. Aphex Twin
53. The Fall
52. Nas
51. Television
50. Sufjan Stevens
49. Death From Above 1979
48. Bat For Lashes
47. The Cars
46. Wiley
45. T Rex
44. Bikini Kill
43. New Order
42. PJ Harvey
41. Led Zeppelin
40. Tame Impala
39. Brian Jonestown Massacre
38. Dr. Dre
37. Kraftwerk
36. My Bloody Valentine
35. TV on the Radio
34. Depeche Mode
33. The Knife
32. Pavement
31. Bjork
30. Bon Iver
29. Bruce Springsteen
28. Beck
27. The Stone Roses
26. Fleetwood Mac
25. Nirvana
24. Queens of the Stone Age
23. Burial
22. Sonic Youth
21. Hole
20. Prince
19. Neutral Milk Hotel
18. Aaliyah
17. Blur
16. The Velvet Underground
15. Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers
14. The Clash
13. Joy Division
12. The Breeders
11. The Smiths
10. The xx
09. Nick Cave
08. Kate Bush
07. The Gun Gun Club
06. The Flaming Lips
05. The Strokes
04. The White Stripes
03. Kanye West
02. David Bowie
01. Radiohead

linus4000 said:

Or take the Frozen soundtrack...one of the songs came out from Prince`s LETITGO

No, that was a joke.

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/05/sorry-prince-did-not-actually-inspire-disneys-let-it-go/

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Mindflux said:

I found myself agreeing with you....until you said Bowie was "over-rated". He's a bona-fide musical legend and boundary-pusher (his androgynous presence far preceeding Prince) and quite unique in terms of style and song-writing - on a par with Prince. No-one can over-rate his contribution to popular music. And it's not only the Brits who laud Bowie, he has global status and respect.

With regard to the NME, they had their day - there was a time when they were an important music publication, but lost their way at the beginning of the noughties. It is essentially Britain's version of Rolling Stone. Furthermore, lists like these are utterly meaningless.

Well I did say I was drunk, my judgement was obviously impaired to the point where I failed to recognise Bowie's genius

Nah, what you say is fair enough, I'm sure most people would agree with you. "Over-rated" was the wrong word to use really (I say, backpedalling furiously ), I can't deny the profound effect he's had on pop music over the last 40+ years, all I meant was that I don't enjoy his stuff as much as some others. I mean, Hunky Dory's pretty damn great (mostly) and he has recorded some of the best pop songs of all time, but often I'm hard pressed to sustain my interest throughout a whole album.

Again you're right in saying he's not just appreciated by British audiences, but I do find that they tend to be the ones who afford him a huge amount of cultural capital, for many here he's not just a great pop musician but a pop artiste par excellence. I tend to find such veneration a bit grating so maybe I'm just kicking against a sacred cow. I mean, you probably remember that Bowie thing that was at the V&A about a year ago (maybe you went). After a while I just got a bit tired of publications like The Guardian and Time Out bandying about adjectives like "unmissable" and stuff like that, made me roll my eyes a bit. But yeah, I definately respect Bowie a great deal, just not as crazy about him as many on this here fair isle.

Anyway, to drag this post slightly back on topic, I definately agree with you regarding the Rolling Stone comparison with the NME, they're both magazines that used to have a huge amount of influence on their respective pop cultures, but have become increasingly out of touch as the years go by. I do think however, that the NME still maintains something of a unique culture, as irrelevant as it is to people not still in thrall to British guitar pop. Rolling Stone seems to me like it's now just a media mag that is really rather jack of all trades when it comes to covering popular culture.

Finally, your last sentence is bang on, but they're kinda fun to pick apart, despite the sheer pointlessness of such a task.

[Edited 8/11/14 12:58pm]

Well, that is a more considered and erudite response....and fair play! (Although, I still like the drunk you too!).

I cannot fault your appreciation of him and suspected that perhaps you didn't necessarily dig everything he has put out (neither do I for that matter - I've enjoyed many albums....Diamond Dogs and Ziggy being among my favourites), but there's others that don't caress my ear so well. I wasn't at the V&A either, but was aware of it.

I agree with your assessmnent of NME and Rolling Stone, though I pay so little attention to them these days (far from the days of the late 80/s and early 90s when I bought them regularly), that I don't feel in a position to really say what they are anymore. Like most other paper publications though, I guess they're really having to work out a new identity as they adapt to the modern digitial world.....as well as a new business model - hey, much like us musicians!

And, yeah....I can think of much worse ways to waste time

[Edited 8/13/14 15:49pm]

There's nothing in Kanye West's "music" that I've heard that I could identify as being influenced by Prince.

Simply name-checking Prince in a song doesn't count as being influenced.

Mindflux said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

lezama said: I agree, but what you must understand is that the NME is a very peculiarly British institution, whose tastes reflect an increasingly small subset of the population. You and I might find that it hardly reflects properly our taste in music, but for, say, my uncle (who was of this particular musical generation), I can pretty much assure you that the two most important artists within his musical "canon" would be Bowie and Radiohead, whom I personally find a tad overrated by British people anyway. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the NME is only relevant to very few people in Britain, so their lists should be taken with a pinch of salt. Excuse me for being not as erudite on this matter as I should, I am somewhat drunk

I found myself agreeing with you....until you said Bowie was "over-rated". He's a bona-fide musical legend and boundary-pusher (his androgynous presence far preceeding Prince) and quite unique in terms of style and song-writing - on a par with Prince. No-one can over-rate his contribution to popular music. And it's not only the Brits who laud Bowie, he has global status and respect.

With regard to the NME, they had their day - there was a time when they were an important music publication, but lost their way at the beginning of the noughties. It is essentially Britain's version of Rolling Stone. Furthermore, lists like these are utterly meaningless.

I agree that Bowie was a boundary-pusher when it came to fashion and just total coolness, but I don't see him as being much of a revolutionary in his music. Maybe I'm missing something but he did pretty much the same stuff musically as all the other 70's British rockers IMHO.

RodeoSchro said:

Mindflux said:

I found myself agreeing with you....until you said Bowie was "over-rated". He's a bona-fide musical legend and boundary-pusher (his androgynous presence far preceeding Prince) and quite unique in terms of style and song-writing - on a par with Prince. No-one can over-rate his contribution to popular music. And it's not only the Brits who laud Bowie, he has global status and respect.

With regard to the NME, they had their day - there was a time when they were an important music publication, but lost their way at the beginning of the noughties. It is essentially Britain's version of Rolling Stone. Furthermore, lists like these are utterly meaningless.

I agree that Bowie was a boundary-pusher when it came to fashion and just total coolness, but I don't see him as being much of a revolutionary in his music. Maybe I'm missing something but he did pretty much the same stuff musically as all the other 70's British rockers IMHO.

He was much more than most 70s British rock - he blended genres and styles in a way that is similar to Prince - Bowie didn't necessarily revolutionise music, or invent a new genre, but he effectively absorbed a broad range of styles and mades it sound like it was all his anyway!

And then he could also just sound unique - can't think of anything much that sounds like Space Oddity (certainly back when it was released and perhaps even in all the time that has passed since). And put something on like Sound and Vision today and it still sounds really fresh.

Anyhow, it's no biggie, natch

Cloudbuster said:

100. Deerhunter
99. The Cure
98. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
97. Iceage
96. Country Teasers
95. Dirty Projectors
94. Richard Hawley
93. Black Lips
92. St. Vincent
91. Foals
90. Flying Lotus
89. Simple Minds
88. Oneohtrix Point Never
87. Billy Bragg
86. The Triffids
85. Black Flag
84. Nine Inch Nails
83. The Jesus and Mary Chain
82. Massive Attack
81. Animal Collective
80. Dusty Springfield
79. Suicide
78. Stevie Wonder
77. Best Coast
76. Vampire Weekend
75. The Wedding Present
74. Slint
73. Wu-Tang Clan
72. Grimes
71. Rilo Kiley
70. Pharrell
69. Nick Lowe
68. The National
67. Jay Z
66. The Slits
65. Diplo
64. The Zombies
63. Talk Talk
62. The Stooges
61. DJ Shadow
60. DJ Rashad
59. Chic
58. Black Sabbath
57. James Blake
56. Happy Mondays
55. The Chills
54. Aphex Twin
53. The Fall
52. Nas
51. Television
50. Sufjan Stevens
49. Death From Above 1979
48. Bat For Lashes
47. The Cars
46. Wiley
45. T Rex
44. Bikini Kill
43. New Order
42. PJ Harvey
41. Led Zeppelin
40. Tame Impala
39. Brian Jonestown Massacre
38. Dr. Dre
37. Kraftwerk
36. My Bloody Valentine
35. TV on the Radio
34. Depeche Mode
33. The Knife
32. Pavement
31. Bjork
30. Bon Iver
29. Bruce Springsteen
28. Beck
27. The Stone Roses
26. Fleetwood Mac
25. Nirvana
24. Queens of the Stone Age
23. Burial
22. Sonic Youth
21. Hole
20. Prince
19. Neutral Milk Hotel
18. Aaliyah
17. Blur
16. The Velvet Underground
15. Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers
14. The Clash
13. Joy Division
12. The Breeders
11. The Smiths
10. The xx
09. Nick Cave
08. Kate Bush
07. The Gun Gun Club
06. The Flaming Lips
05. The Strokes
04. The White Stripes
03. Kanye West
02. David Bowie
01. Radiohead

this list is literally all over the place and makes little sense to my head..

Rebeljuice said: