khemseraph said:

bashraka said:

There were several meetings. Eight white men and two white women. Was this a meeting of the Mormon Glee Club? The New White Citizens Council? Perhaps a Klan meeting? No. That meeting was the creative team for the new James Brown movie, "Get On Up."

Welcome to post-racial Hollywood where if you host a fundraiser for Barack Obama, you're freed of the burden of hiring black writers. And where a rich white producer can jokingly declare, "I'm black."

Indeed, all the producers, writers, and the director of the James Brown movie are white. No black people were hired until a few weeks before the cameras started rolling, the actors. In fact, several of the people involved in this whitewash are British. The Brits have a fetish for black projects.

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well thought out and articulate but ,no matter how you dress up racism its still racism and guess what,your blog is quite racist. Im a black man and I am offended.i am not sure what era you grew up in so forgive me,but I grew up in the 80s/90s. We accepted everyone.if I white person wanted to make a movie about someone black it was not an issue.lets take a lokk at what fansite we are on.Prince.org who became a worldwide superstar because a white man backed his 1st movie ,got it made for him and he became a legend.the most unimportant thing in my staement was that it was a white man that backed him because race doesnt matter.im sure james brown meant alot to white folks as well as hispanics and asians .not only black. do you think Prince put brown mark in his band because he needed more color?our civil rights icons went through what they did so we can all live in harmony.so a black man can be the dean of harvard.so a white kid can go to howard and not feel like an outsider.as far as the artistic vision of the group that got get on up made goes..thats a matter of our personal opinion.but to bash them because they are white and got this movie made is down right racist.and thats what you did.and the people that agreed with you.it really is people like you who keep us divided.us as in the human race.I am sure there are more than a few grammar errors in this ,but to hell with that you should take a step back and look at things from all views. whats more importnt is that you miss out on the fact that HELLO we have a james brown movie.a whole new generation of americans(and people from around the world)will now be exposed to the greatness that you (so accurately I might add) described .yes he is an icon.a civil rights leader.one of the most important men(not just black) of the 20th century.and thanks to those white brothers and sisters of ours we now have him on the big screen.you just overlooked the positive

I'm not sure what your age is but the longer you live, the more you will see how "post-racial" America isn't the utopia that it's cut out to be, especially during difficult economic times. Wait and see...

SuperSoulFighter said:

hopefularranger said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

I take my username from a Lenny Kravitz song, a black artist who was inspired by The Beatles, The Stones, LedZep and Dylan as much as JB, Sly, Hendrix, Marvin and Bob Marley. Is that colonialism too?

Who influenced The Beatles, The Stones, LedZep and Dylan? [img:$uid]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJbPGSfqGUENk-VSyL3SF-Dde54wEkty4ooLNs6P6YrFvFFwRGb1vID8c[/img:$uid]

Thank you hopeful for saying it. I really didn't want to put anymore energy into that discussion You saved me some brain cells

Please, as meticulous as Prince is about protecting his everything, you can bet that he will control anything written, made, etc, about him from the grave!

Do any of you remember that news story that came out about 2-3 years ago about the Ivy League school that had just returned the stolen artifacts it took from some tribal folks in Peru? I think it was Yale. Anyway, they basically held on to stolen artifacts for 100 years and because of mounting pressure from the tribe (and possibly the Peruvian government), they finally got it back.

For some reason, this discussion reminded me of that news story...

SeventeenDayze said:

SuperSoulFighter said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Thank you hopeful for saying it. I really didn't want to put anymore energy into that discussion You saved me some brain cells

And like philmorez said, they have always been the first to admit that. And now Mick Jagger is showing his respect to James Brown through this move. What more do you want? Music is a criss-cross of influences and does not belong to one particular racial or cultural group. I now I have put all the energy in this discussion that I wanted as well. Peace! Be wild! [Edited 8/10/14 2:46am]

If everything belongs to everyone, why aren't more black folks the CEOs of corporations, banks, the U.S. Senate, Private Government Contractors, etc.? But, when it comes to what black people "have" (to put it loosely), it's a free for all.....Yeah that sounds pretty consistent with history. Exploit the wealth of others to enrich yourself....that's America.

SuperSoulFighter said:

You guys got a black president for crying out loud!!!

Here's an analogy:

A few weeks ago, we had the NFL Hall of Fame ceremony. I don't recall the exact number of inductees but let's say it's about 8-10.

Now, if you count up the number of kids that play Pee Wee league all the way up to those who actually make the NFL, that's probably several million men. Out of those several million men, only 10 or so each year are inducted. So, the overwhelming majority of boys and men who ever take one snap in football will never reach the status of the NFL Hall of Famers....

So, "you guys" don't always win because "one guy" wins.

I had a feeling you were going to say the whole bit about a black President (who buy the way is being sued by the House). Have you ever heard of undermining, political stalwarting or symbolic post-racialism? I doubt it, based on what you wrote.

Happy trails, culture vultures!

Let's keep the convo back on topic. James Brown entertained the world but he belongs to black America. I'm sure the Rolling Stones are not going to pretend to be American just because they have lots of fans here so why should we erase James Brown's cultural ties to black America? WE are the ones who collectively kept his career alive once white America got pissed off at his pro-black music.

But, denial is the first step in controlling the dialogue about race, so none of these denial tactics and whatnot erases the reality that this has and will continue to happen throughout history. Why can't you accept it? Why must it always be a figment of the imagination of those who have their culture hijacked?

Okay, I'm done here. But, you seem like the type who has to have the last word, so be my guest.

[Edited 8/10/14 10:41am]

hopefularranger said:

...and the president that "us guys" "got" is biracial by the way. Same as your SuperSoulFighter namesake, Lenny. [img:$uid]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJbPGSfqGUENk-VSyL3SF-Dde54wEkty4ooLNs6P6YrFvFFwRGb1vID8c[/img:$uid]

Naw, he ain't by racial anymore, they call him the N-word as much as they do any other black person People only say he's bi-racial when they want to prove a point that his blackness isn't as real as the next person. Should we call his kids 1/4 white? Doubt it!

When it comes to racial identity in America, whatever the cops and cab drivers think you are, that's it

SeventeenDayze said:

hopefularranger said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Naw, he ain't by racial anymore, they call him the N-word as much as they do any other black person People only say he's bi-racial when they want to prove a point that his blackness isn't as real as the next person. Should we call his kids 1/4 white? Doubt it!

When it comes to racial identity in America, whatever the cops and cab drivers think you are, that's it

Right. That's more-or-less what I was getting at. The assertion that he's black and he's the president supports an arguement against the perpetuation of white supremecy. It's a card played by folks who want to take a blind eyes view toward the everyday realities of the majority of black people. "You guys got a black president, so everthing must be hunky dory for black folks now, right?" Pointing out that he's a biracial Havard graduate damages the foundation of that assertion so generally that card is played during a different hand (so to speak) if played at all. *edit: You know, I should really apologize. Attempts have been made to steer this thread back on topic, and partially through my own doing, we've managed to veer off topic again. Perhaps a thread in the P&R forum is indeed a more appropriate space for the continuance. Sorry for hijacking, folks. [Edited 8/10/14 12:38pm]

I agree with what you wrote here and I think it's relevant to the discussion at hand. Before James Brown sang, "I'm Black and I'm Proud", he was a non-threatening entertainer who was in a comfortable place for many whites. When that song came out, it was "game over" for James Brown in white America. Most of the time when you hear people talk about James Brown, they are talking about his hits prior to 1968 or Living in America from the 80s. They pass over an entire decade or so, for a reason. James Brown never tried to "assimilate" (whatever that means) and he didn't mince his words.

I think the same can be said about what you were writing. Obama, like many black Americans, has European ancestry. His children have European ancestry but I seriously doubt any white person in the world would look at his children and call them "white". Obama's wife, his black children and the vitriol aimed at him reaffirm how black he is, if you ask me. The same can be said for James Brown, when he made songs that SHOWED what was already there, he was off the map for white America.

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Shawy89 said:

Nobody in the film scene looks like Prince, or has the same bone structure, or is short as he is.

The only actor out there who looks somewhat like Prince is Evan Ross and he's way too tall.

Felix from Orphan Black looks like Prince a bit, in my opinion

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Thanks, Langebleu for the prompt reply to my message

khemseraph said:

I heard the guy playing James Brown was white and English too. Yup, "The Brits have a fetish for black projects".

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