scratch said:

i doubt P thinks about bruno mars at all. bruno's music is absolute dreck, and i say that without hesitating even a heartbeat. really some of the most stale, lifeless pop music i've heard in ages. it's truly some terrible, terrible stuff. terrible maybe in the fact that it just truly has zero personality, creativity, or genuine artistic compositional interest, not that the musicianship or singing is technically bad. it's bad because it completely inoffensive: it doesn't take any risks. you could fall asleep to this stuff.. his music is shiny, polished, overproduced, modern and completely lifeless and hollow. comparing P to this pop singer is a massive insult to P.

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i really, really do not think that P cares an iota about Bruno. he doesn't view him as competition, because he isn't.

Which pop stars do you think are better than Bruno that actually play their instruments, etc.? I only ask for that specific comparison because it goes back to the original question/statement about how Prince is always boo-hooing about real music from real musicians, etc. Remember that George Lopez show interview? That seemed to be the pinnacle of Prince's complaining about this issue ) A lot of people probably didn't like Prince's early stuff when it was released but they gradually came to love it. After all Prince was a spitfire, dancing, crazy brilliant musical madman....in a trench coat and a thong

The larger question is what does Bruno Mars think of what Justin Bieber thinks about Orlando Bloom's thoughts on Katherine McPhee's feelings of the Prince Satisfied performance on American Idol a few years back.

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In all seriousness though, Prince is not concerned with Bruno, he is more interested in finding pretty ladies to write songs for and tour with.

Peace

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leadline said:

The larger question is what does Bruno Mars think of what Justin Bieber thinks about Orlando Bloom's thoughts on Katherine McPhee's feelings of the Prince Satisfied performance on American Idol a few years back.

In all seriousness though, Prince is not concerned with Bruno, he is more interested in finding pretty ladies to write songs for and tour with.

Peace

Have a nice day

SeventeenDayze said:

scratch said:

i doubt P thinks about bruno mars at all. bruno's music is absolute dreck, and i say that without hesitating even a heartbeat. really some of the most stale, lifeless pop music i've heard in ages. it's truly some terrible, terrible stuff. terrible maybe in the fact that it just truly has zero personality, creativity, or genuine artistic compositional interest, not that the musicianship or singing is technically bad. it's bad because it completely inoffensive: it doesn't take any risks. you could fall asleep to this stuff.. his music is shiny, polished, overproduced, modern and completely lifeless and hollow. comparing P to this pop singer is a massive insult to P.

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i really, really do not think that P cares an iota about Bruno. he doesn't view him as competition, because he isn't.

Which pop stars do you think are better than Bruno that actually play their instruments, etc.? I only ask for that specific comparison because it goes back to the original question/statement about how Prince is always boo-hooing about real music from real musicians, etc. Remember that George Lopez show interview? That seemed to be the pinnacle of Prince's complaining about this issue ) A lot of people probably didn't like Prince's early stuff when it was released but they gradually came to love it. After all Prince was a spitfire, dancing, crazy brilliant musical madman....in a trench coat and a thong

hard to say, because i do think the era of the 'big pop star' is fading, they've almost become blank templates for producers/songwriters to cast their mold in under most circumstances. i don't listen to a lot of modern radio, but there are plenty of great artists still making catchy, accessible and interesting music today who play their own instruments. check out fka twigs new track 'two weeks', which she wrote, played the instruments on, and produced herself. check out haim, who write all their music and are great at playing live. how to dress well writes all of his music and his new album is great. blood orange writes, plays, and produces his music and it's very good, plus does a lot of other excellent production work. james blake writes all of his songs, produces, and plays a damn fine keyboard live as well. foxygen play all their instruments live and write their music, check out their new song 'how can you really'. st vincent writes, plays an insanely good live guitar, and sings beautifully. but in the world of big mega hit pop stars? i don't know, they're all pretty bad. bruno is one of the worst though

scratch said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Which pop stars do you think are better than Bruno that actually play their instruments, etc.? I only ask for that specific comparison because it goes back to the original question/statement about how Prince is always boo-hooing about real music from real musicians, etc. Remember that George Lopez show interview? That seemed to be the pinnacle of Prince's complaining about this issue ) A lot of people probably didn't like Prince's early stuff when it was released but they gradually came to love it. After all Prince was a spitfire, dancing, crazy brilliant musical madman....in a trench coat and a thong

hard to say, because i do think the era of the 'big pop star' is fading, they've almost become blank templates for producers/songwriters to cast their mold in under most circumstances. i don't listen to a lot of modern radio, but there are plenty of great artists still making catchy, accessible and interesting music today who play their own instruments. check out fka twigs new track 'two weeks', which she wrote, played the instruments on, and produced herself. check out haim, who write all their music and are great at playing live. how to dress well writes all of his music and his new album is great. blood orange writes, plays, and produces his music and it's very good, plus does a lot of other excellent production work. james blake writes all of his songs, produces, and plays a damn fine keyboard live as well. foxygen play all their instruments live and write their music, check out their new song 'how can you really'. st vincent writes, plays an insanely good live guitar, and sings beautifully. but in the world of big mega hit pop stars? i don't know, they're all pretty bad. bruno is one of the worst though

What you wrote made me think about the role of marketing and how it's a factor. It seems that a lot of record labels the past few years were deliberately keeping what I can only describe as "true musicians" from reaching any kind of fame. As you said, the big pop star notion is dying off but I think that plays into Bruno's popularity. Maybe it's good timing for him more than anything. All of his competition have been doing the same auto-tune Michael Jackson rip offs for a better part of a decade, so it's not surprising that he's popular among a large audience.

I think someone like Prince could appreciate Bruno's efforts but I think Prince would never collaborate with him, for a number of reasons. I'm not sure Prince would think Bruno was boring but maybe it's just because Prince's ego would get in the way

SeventeenDayze said:

Aerogram said:

I like Bruno Mars, but he's a gifted musician adept at reproducing classic sounds. He did not innovate musically at all or create a sound that defined much of a decade. When Prince does a JB vibe, it's a new take on it (Housequake), not just a good example of JB's influence. Also Bruno does not have Prince stylistic reach. Bruno Mars is gifted, Prince is a true genius. I think Bruno Mars would agree with that.

Well, it's interesting because it seems that some people would say that to compare an album like Dirty Mind UTCM would be like apples and oranges. Nobody is saying Bruno is better than Prince and we still have to keep in mind that Bruno is releasing what the label wants him to release. Somehow, Prince from the start of his career was able to retain almost complete control of everything he was doing, which was unheard of then and especially unheard of now.

That's Bruno's problem if he didn't secure as much artistic freedom. I'm glad he's around and wish there would be a JB-esque duo between those two, it would be worth their time.

Aerogram said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Well, it's interesting because it seems that some people would say that to compare an album like Dirty Mind UTCM would be like apples and oranges. Nobody is saying Bruno is better than Prince and we still have to keep in mind that Bruno is releasing what the label wants him to release. Somehow, Prince from the start of his career was able to retain almost complete control of everything he was doing, which was unheard of then and especially unheard of now.

That's Bruno's problem if he didn't secure as much artistic freedom. I'm glad he's around and wish there would be a JB-esque duo between those two, it would be worth their time.

Never know, Bruno might write "Slave" on his face and change his name to a symbol. For some people Bruno passes off as squeaky clean but I think under the surface he's got some freaky stuff he's going to/wants to unleash. I have no idea how an artist gets complete artistic control the way Prince did but if it ever happens again in history, I hope it happens to Bruno so the record label doesn't derail his career prematurely. Yes, a JB duo thing would be amazing!

SeventeenDayze said:

Aerogram said:

That's Bruno's problem if he didn't secure as much artistic freedom. I'm glad he's around and wish there would be a JB-esque duo between those two, it would be worth their time.

Never know, Bruno might write "Slave" on his face and change his name to a symbol. For some people Bruno passes off as squeaky clean but I think under the surface he's got some freaky stuff he's going to/wants to unleash. I have no idea how an artist gets complete artistic control the way Prince did but if it ever happens again in history, I hope it happens to Bruno so the record label doesn't derail his career prematurely. Yes, a JB duo thing would be amazing!

Not that many people know what to do with artistic freedom. It's P:rince's peculiar personality that is the key to how he leveraged his raw talent. (Guess that's just a kind way of saying Bruno ain't crazy enough to need that much artistic freedom).

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Aerogram said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Never know, Bruno might write "Slave" on his face and change his name to a symbol. For some people Bruno passes off as squeaky clean but I think under the surface he's got some freaky stuff he's going to/wants to unleash. I have no idea how an artist gets complete artistic control the way Prince did but if it ever happens again in history, I hope it happens to Bruno so the record label doesn't derail his career prematurely. Yes, a JB duo thing would be amazing!

Not that many people know what to do with artistic freedom. It's P:rince's peculiar personality that is the key to how he leveraged his raw talent. (Guess that's just a kind way of saying Bruno ain't crazy enough to need that much artistic freedom).

[Edited 7/31/14 14:52pm]

Will Bruno wear those infamous chaps? Probably not, but I think that he's got a bit of crazy under it all. I think he's just being micromanaged to a certain extent. Prince also seems to have hit the scenen when he had virtually no competition....some of you will say Rick James but I beg to differ but that's for another thread. But, I agree with what you said about people not knowing what to do with artistic freedom. It's almost like they've got to wear so many hats at once. I don't know how Prince did it but WOW he did it!

scratch said:

i doubt P thinks about bruno mars at all. bruno's music is absolute dreck, and i say that without hesitating even a heartbeat. really some of the most stale, lifeless pop music i've heard in ages. it's truly some terrible, terrible stuff. terrible maybe in the fact that it just truly has zero personality, creativity, or genuine artistic compositional interest, not that the musicianship or singing is technically bad. it's bad because it completely inoffensive: it doesn't take any risks. you could fall asleep to this stuff.. his music is shiny, polished, overproduced, modern and completely lifeless and hollow. comparing P to this pop singer is a massive insult to P.

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i really, really do not think that P cares an iota about Bruno. he doesn't view him as competition, because he isn't.

Lol

You're just one of those music snobs who think they're superior to others just because they listen to deeper and more complex music. you're like one of those old sophists who talk so much about unusual musical creativity, ultra genius composition and susbstantial lyrical depth... while it's barely a reason to praise somebody.

plus i don't know why Unorthodox Jukebox is one of the best "pop" albums released in the last 10 years.. you guys are just not familiar with the current state of pop music and i don't blame ya, i wouldn't like bruno if i grew up with led zeppelin and pink floyd, cuz to me that would be good music.

EyeHatechu said:

Bruno Mars is just about everything P used to be. EVERYTHING. The man plays instruments, has a live band, makes hits and writes hits for others, he even can dance and do the James Brown splits, he has hits in a variety of genres as well. P is still trying to prove that he is still the best and maybe acknowledging Bruno would attract more people to Bruno than him. Its all just a little common sense friendly competition. P isnt ready to pass the torch just yet. [Edited 7/30/14 22:23pm]

How is Bruno Mars everything Prince used to be?

Bruno Mars ain't no musical genius.

He's nowhere near as good as 80s Prince in terms of songwritting

He's no virtuoso on any instruments.

& Prince sings 10x better

scratch said:

i doubt P thinks about bruno mars at all. bruno's music is absolute dreck, and i say that without hesitating even a heartbeat. really some of the most stale, lifeless pop music i've heard in ages. it's truly some terrible, terrible stuff. terrible maybe in the fact that it just truly has zero personality, creativity, or genuine artistic compositional interest, not that the musicianship or singing is technically bad. it's bad because it completely inoffensive: it doesn't take any risks. you could fall asleep to this stuff.. his music is shiny, polished, overproduced, modern and completely lifeless and hollow. comparing P to this pop singer is a massive insult to P.

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i really, really do not think that P cares an iota about Bruno. he doesn't view him as competition, because he isn't.

^^ yep

Shawy89 said:

scratch said:

i doubt P thinks about bruno mars at all. bruno's music is absolute dreck, and i say that without hesitating even a heartbeat. really some of the most stale, lifeless pop music i've heard in ages. it's truly some terrible, terrible stuff. terrible maybe in the fact that it just truly has zero personality, creativity, or genuine artistic compositional interest, not that the musicianship or singing is technically bad. it's bad because it completely inoffensive: it doesn't take any risks. you could fall asleep to this stuff.. his music is shiny, polished, overproduced, modern and completely lifeless and hollow. comparing P to this pop singer is a massive insult to P.

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i really, really do not think that P cares an iota about Bruno. he doesn't view him as competition, because he isn't.

Lol

You're just one of those music snobs who think they're superior to others just because they listen to deeper and more complex music. you're like one of those old sophists who talk so much about unusual musical creativity, ultra genius composition and susbstantial lyrical depth... while it's barely a reason to praise somebody.

plus i don't know why Unorthodox Jukebox is one of the best "pop" albums released in the last 10 years.. you guys are just not familiar with the current state of pop music and i don't blame ya, i wouldn't like bruno if i grew up with led zeppelin and pink floyd, cuz to me that would be good music.

what? 'creativity' 'composition' and 'substantial lyrical depth' are 'barely a reason to praise somebody'? what a ridiculous thing to say.

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it's funny that you think i'm old because i think this guy is bad. i'm younger than you are. don't act like i don't know the state of current pop music, because i do. it's really in a boring place, and bruno is the epitome of how boring it really is. it's music that says nothing, does nothing, feels nothing, and wants to be nothing more than shot at the charts. the formulas for his songs are: "let's do stevie, but with no emotion. alright, now let's do michael, but with even less emotion. and make sure you aren't doing anything interesting or creative, because that would turn people off. we're making money here baby!" its music that sounds like it could have been written by an algorithm. i actually don't know how someone could enjoy a song like 'money make her smile', which i just tried to listen again, it sounded like the worst type of stevie imitation. like stevie with the funk surgically removed. i don't know how you can like bjork and the smiths and think anything bruno mars has done is worth its weight in CD construction materials. but you have the right to your opinion. i won't fling personal insults and call you a "music snob" who doesn't know what he's talking about because he's so 'old'

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in other words you don't really know what you're talking about. kids get off my lawn

scratch said:

Bruno in the not too distant future...

SeventeenDayze said:

kenkamken said:

Why is this in Prince: Music & More forum? It's not like anyone here has the least inkling what Prince thinks about anything, much less his specific thoughts about Bruno Mars. It's time to make a Bruno sticky in the Music: Non Prince forum where the Bruno fanatics can post all about Bruno, Bruno, Bruno to their heart's content and leave everyone else alone.

The reason why this is in the Prince thread is because it's a discussion about Prince's thoughts, actions, etc. about a particular artist. This isn't a discussion about Bruno, it's a discussion about Prince's THOUGHTS about Bruno. Thanks and hopefully this thread will stay right here since we are talking about Prince afterall

By the way, the Mayte underwear thread hasn't been moved---probably because it's a discussion about Prince's alleged underwear and not Mayte's underwear.

This isn't a thread about Prince's thoughts on Bruno Mars it's a thread about what fans think Prince's thoughts are on Bruno Mars.

Anyway last time I checked every artist was not required to make a statement about every other artist that's out there.

SeventeenDayze said:

Over the past several years, we've heard Prince complain about how there's too many artists that don't play real music (i.e. "real music by real musicians). Like him or not, the Superbowl performance that Bruno did was pretty bad ass and showcased how multi-talented he is. Why haven't we heard Prince comment about Bruno, made any surprise appearances, etc? Isn't this what Prince wanted? Bruno performs with a decent-sized band and seems to be what Prince said the industry needed more of. So, why is the Purple One so mum on Bruno? Thoughts?

Finally another artist that I can look directly in the eyes.

(ok..bad height joke, I'll sit in my time-out corner)

Bruno Mars is better than the Prince of today.

Rebeljuice said:

Bruno Mars is better than the Prince of today.

If better if defined as being more radio friendly perhaps or more profitable for a major record label and clear channel, yes you are correct. I listen to about 75% of his songs if they come on the radio and I happen to be listening to the radio but he isnt the type of artist I'd ever buy an album from. His music doesn't do it for me. Its too generic.

Do you think Justin Bieber is jealous of Bruno Mars?

I mean Bieber probably feels he is more talented than

Mars and would be jealous that Mars gets a lot of

positive publicity and respect.

What do you think?

SeventeenDayze said:

databank said:

No I checked his vids on YT and I was absolutely unfamiliar with his face and his music, I really had just caught his name as being a celebrity name probably because he was named in passing here or there but that's all. Not the first time: I remember I learned who Lady Gaga was about 6 months after every one else back in 2009. The girlfriend who told me about her back then was like "whaaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuck? U don't know who Lady gaga is? The whole planet knows that!!!"

Thing is that for one thing I live in India, and even when I was in France it was kinda the same anyway cuz I don't really watch TV, I don't listen to the radio and I mostly listen to indie/alternative music, so sometimes I'm totally clueless when it comes to those things

Oh, don't worry, that happens sometimes Sometimes avoiding the media can be a good thing

Oh it's fine, actually past the surprise that girl was like impressed, as in "wow! man I can't believe u're THAT cool". I guess for some people ignoring that mainstream stuff gives u a sophisticated image or IDK

SeventeenDayze said:

databank said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Over the past several years, we've heard Prince complain about how there's too many artists that don't play real music (i.e. "real music by real musicians). Like him or not, the Superbowl performance that Bruno did was pretty bad ass and showcased how multi-talented he is. Why haven't we heard Prince comment about Bruno, made any surprise appearances, etc? Isn't this what Prince wanted? Bruno performs with a decent-sized band and seems to be what Prince said the industry needed more of. So, why is the Purple One so mum on Bruno? Thoughts?

Clearly P gravitates towards female musicians and a lot of times some that aren't very good. Mars is a huge Prince fan... Lots of male musical acts are. Maxwell, JT, Bruno, Pharell I could go on One of the things I find most annoying about P is how he is reluctant to work with male artist or even acknowledge them. QuestLove is a huge Prince fan...probably best drummer out there right now. You would think P would gravitate to him right? Nope ... He has that weak ass drummer in that weak ass band with that weak ass name 3rd eye girl Prince needs to man the fuck up. I like Jonnelle Monae ...but some of these other garbage female acts he works with or compliments just make him look so tired... And old.

There's so many things wrong with this post I dont know where to begin. Firstly you obviously don't know much about drummers if you call ?uest the best out there right now. Secondly, with bands it's never simply about having the best performers, its about having the best chemistry (since you have to spend a lot of time together). Nobody knows better who someone wants to spend a lot a time around except that person themself. Thirdly, Prince has worked with or played with and praised plenty of male artists (from George Clinton, Stevie, Miles, Doug E., Lenny, Harts, Dave Grohl etc etc). Some of you just have selective attention spans. And you're also forgetting the fact that the original plan was to have a boy band with Andre Gouche & Robert Bruner (I assume since he still has Andre around that he may still be considering some variation on that idea).

COPY CAT

And people dont even realize how much he has copied from prince.

lezama said:

Bruno Mars' third album will change everything, I'm more than sure that this guy will release a masterpiece. If you think I'm trolling, you should think that more often, cuz huge will be the shock the day you'll know what I'm saying is right.

Alexandernvrmind said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Over the past several years, we've heard Prince complain about how there's too many artists that don't play real music (i.e. "real music by real musicians). Like him or not, the Superbowl performance that Bruno did was pretty bad ass and showcased how multi-talented he is. Why haven't we heard Prince comment about Bruno, made any surprise appearances, etc? Isn't this what Prince wanted? Bruno performs with a decent-sized band and seems to be what Prince said the industry needed more of. So, why is the Purple One so mum on Bruno? Thoughts?

Clearly P gravitates towards female musicians and a lot of times some that aren't very good. Mars is a huge Prince fan... Lots of male musical acts are. Maxwell, JT, Bruno, Pharell I could go on One of the things I find most annoying about P is how he is reluctant to work with male artist or even acknowledge them. QuestLove is a huge Prince fan...probably best drummer out there right now. You would think P would gravitate to him right? Nope ... He has that weak ass drummer in that weak ass band with that weak ass name 3rd eye girl Prince needs to man the fuck up. I like Jonnelle Monae ...but some of these other garbage female acts he works with or compliments just make him look so tired... And old.

Well, when it comes to Questlove, the jury might be out on that. When I saw Prince at MSG back in 2011, Questlove was on the drums for the entire concert if I remember correctly. He also had Cee-Lo Green open for him that night. I guess maybe Prince doesn't work with good-looking dudes for fear of the spotlight being stolen. Between Maxwell and Bruno, that's a hell of a lot of sex appeal, on top of what Prince has. So, maybe Prince is being catty

purplerain14 said:

COPY CAT

And people dont even realize how much he has copied from prince.

Do you mean a copy cat in sound or his look and sound? I don't think stage persona is as eccentric as Prince, not even close! But, once he gets more control of his own brand, sound, etc., there might be a weird phase that Bruno will have that will showcase his eccentric personality that I am pretty sure is under the surface.

I think Prince is/was a genius at knowing how to make any kind of sound, look, vibe into something purely genius. Let's face it, even Prince's terrible songs have an element of genius because it's not like anyone else had that sound before.