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Thread started 07/23/14 12:28am

drgoldsmoke

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Plectrum Electrum Theory.

Too many listening parties???? Just release it already?!!

MAYBE....

This is how he is releasing it. It is being released. You hear it once at a location, somewhat like an art gallery visit. Maybe the music will tour. You may never own it, just the memory of hearing it.

RZA put out a new concept earlier this year that I think raised Prince's eyebrows.

Release one copy of new album (the only copy) to the highest bidder with the idea of the disc being toured like art.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54518-wu-tang-clan-announce-another-new-album-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin/

Maybe Prince, rather than selling one copy, is just going to tour it. Perhaps he is trialling this concept at Paisley Park. This way he can package an experience, smells, mood, food, ambience etc. He'd like that.

It's a wacky concept that would suit him. He likes to be the first to do something new.

Just a thought.

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Reply #1 posted 07/23/14 1:04am

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That's a terrible theory. The music never won't get owned... Just the memory of having heard it? Sometimes that happens. People hear a song and it never gets released.

But if the game plan is to only let u listen to some trax off of one album and a couple off of another album with the knowledge that the listeners won't ever own these albums, all they'll EVER get is the memory of having heard it is a terrible game plane...as its also terribly devoid if any proits. These records won't ever see a return...only expenses. Sometimes P can make some dubious financial decisions....but dayum....that takes the cake...then only leaves u with the memory of having had a cake.
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Reply #2 posted 07/23/14 1:10am

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"This is not an album, this is an experience"

The previous 5 or 6 projects barely made a dent in our consciousness, whereas this one's been on our collective minds a lot (whether you like it or not).

seems to work well to me cool

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Reply #3 posted 07/23/14 2:12am

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He eats bacon on the sly & chuckles to himself.

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Reply #4 posted 07/23/14 3:15am

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Another theory is that he plans to release it by flying around nationwide in a hot air balloon equipped with really loud loudspeakers, playing the record and throwing Plectum Electrum lollipops every now and then.

On the ground, adoring fans would follow the balloon dressed in their best purple outfits while Loyal Royals would instead carry signs reading "This is propaganda!". Fights would regularly break out for ownership of the complimentary PE lollipops.

That's my "theory". What's yours?

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Reply #5 posted 07/23/14 3:35am

databank

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drgoldsmoke said:

Too many listening parties???? Just release it already?!!

MAYBE....

This is how he is releasing it. It is being released. You hear it once at a location, somewhat like an art gallery visit. Maybe the music will tour. You may never own it, just the memory of hearing it.

RZA put out a new concept no no no! earlier this year that I think raised Prince's eyebrows.

Release one copy of new album (the only copy) to the highest bidder with the idea of the disc being toured like art.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54518-wu-tang-clan-announce-another-new-album-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin/

Maybe Prince, rather than selling one copy, is just going to tour it. Perhaps he is trialling this concept at Paisley Park. This way he can package an experience, smells, mood, food, ambience etc. He'd like that.

It's a wacky concept that would suit him. He likes to be the first to do something new.

Just a thought.

See you all @ the Prince Party in London this weekend.

http://www.princeparty.co.uk/

Shalom.

This was done by jean-Michel Jarre 31 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...permarkets

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Reply #6 posted 07/23/14 3:36am

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Oh, it was a new concept to me.

Thanks for sharing.

[Edited 7/23/14 3:43am]

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Reply #7 posted 07/23/14 3:59am

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My theory is that the album just doesn't exist.

They must be going for the nineteenth different configuration already, just to make room for the last week's brand new track.

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Reply #8 posted 07/23/14 4:09am

fnksoul

Only a matter of time until someone takes a Recording device into one of these listening parties and leaks it.

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Reply #9 posted 07/23/14 4:17am

databank

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drgoldsmoke said:

Oh, it was a new concept to me.

Thanks for sharing.

[Edited 7/23/14 3:43am]

My pleasure wink

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Reply #10 posted 07/23/14 4:26am

fnksoul

drgoldsmoke said:

RZA put out a new concept earlier this year that I think raised Prince's eyebrows.

Release one copy of new album (the only copy) to the highest bidder with the idea of the disc being toured like art.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54518-wu-tang-clan-announce-another-new-album-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin/

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On this same kinda thing, I posted something about they could put out a crowd funding site where fans could buy it in a digital format say £10 each until it his a target and then a download link gets emailed out. They could have different levels of donations so a next package could be CD, then Vinyl etc... that way they dont need a label and when it hits their taget they have the funds in advance to go ahead and sort the distribution independently and it leaves them with a lump sum probably more than what they would get after a Labels cut. (If its successful)

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Although im looking forward to it, I dont think the album will be worthy of being toured like art, maybe if it were just a Prince record and it was his finest record yet but I think there will be alot of people disappointed if they are just expecting a Prince only record when they hear songs from Hannah and Josh etc...

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Reply #11 posted 07/23/14 5:13am

IstenSzek

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fnksoul said:

drgoldsmoke said:

RZA put out a new concept earlier this year that I think raised Prince's eyebrows.

Release one copy of new album (the only copy) to the highest bidder with the idea of the disc being toured like art.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54518-wu-tang-clan-announce-another-new-album-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin/

.

.

On this same kinda thing, I posted something about they could put out a crowd funding site where fans could buy it in a digital format say £10 each until it his a target and then a download link gets emailed out. They could have different levels of donations so a next package could be CD, then Vinyl etc... that way they dont need a label and when it hits their taget they have the funds in advance to go ahead and sort the distribution independently and it leaves them with a lump sum probably more than what they would get after a Labels cut. (If its successful)

.

Although im looking forward to it, I dont think the album will be worthy of being toured like art, maybe if it were just a Prince record and it was his finest record yet but I think there will be alot of people disappointed if they are just expecting a Prince only record when they hear songs from Hannah and Josh etc...

in an embryonic (is that a word?) way, that was what the "Crystal Ball" release was like,

when pre-orders hit 100.000 or something they released it. remember how well that one

went? lol

once the kickstarter hit the target for the download it would probably take another month

or so before a download link appeared, with errors in the tracks and the encoding being

in a format different from what was advertised falloff

and before we even got the download, he'd rush release the album through some small

european label or a newspaper because they called him and offered him enough cash lol

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[Edited 7/23/14 5:15am]

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Reply #12 posted 07/23/14 6:05am

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this project should just die already so we can move on to the PR remaster

and his own new solo album.

at this speed, we're not going to hear his solo album until next year since

there simply isn't enough time to promote 3 different projects in 6 months.

the whole focus should have been on PR by now and then on the wave of

that, his new album.

he must really love this project because otherwise he would have just put

the 3 best tracks on his own album and call it a day.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #13 posted 07/23/14 6:24am

databank

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fnksoul said:

drgoldsmoke said:

RZA put out a new concept earlier this year that I think raised Prince's eyebrows.

Release one copy of new album (the only copy) to the highest bidder with the idea of the disc being toured like art.

http://pitchfork.com/news/54518-wu-tang-clan-announce-another-new-album-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin/

.

.

On this same kinda thing, I posted something about they could put out a crowd funding site where fans could buy it in a digital format say £10 each until it his a target and then a download link gets emailed out. They could have different levels of donations so a next package could be CD, then Vinyl etc... that way they dont need a label and when it hits their taget they have the funds in advance to go ahead and sort the distribution independently and it leaves them with a lump sum probably more than what they would get after a Labels cut. (If its successful)

.

Although im looking forward to it, I dont think the album will be worthy of being toured like art, maybe if it were just a Prince record and it was his finest record yet but I think there will be alot of people disappointed if they are just expecting a Prince only record when they hear songs from Hannah and Josh etc...

The whole point of crowd-funding is that artists can get enough money to finance the creation (i.e. studio costs for music) of the product itself. It makes no sense here at all given that the material for Plectrum Electrum is already recorded and that anyway prince is a multimillionaire who OWNS a recording studio and can rent any other at any time and at any cost lol

Of course crowd-funding could just pay for the manufacturing of CD's or vinyls (it's a nonsense for downloads since it's virtually costless) but hell once again prince doesn't need us to advance the money to be able to press discs. Crowd funding is for people who ain't got cash, not for multimillionaires lol

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Reply #14 posted 07/23/14 6:36am

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fnksoul said:

Only a matter of time until someone takes a Recording device into one of these listening parties and leaks it.


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Reply #15 posted 07/23/14 9:49am

thedoorkeeper

fnksoul said:

Only a matter of time until someone takes a Recording device into one of these listening parties and leaks it.

Just what we need - a poor quality bootleg

so when it does get officially released people

can complain that the bootleg is better.

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Reply #16 posted 07/23/14 11:26am

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P is simply waging a PR war. All this nonsense about not wanting to release it because of MP3 compression etc is to hide the truth - Warners do not want to release it, yet.
The money is in the Purple Rain reissue. Warners want P focussing on that so they can have their pay day. P on the other hand is all about the here and now and wants people focussing on Plectrum Electrum. This is where the friction between himself and Warners is coming from that he alluded to.
Where Warners are coming from makes perfect sense, focus on a decent Purple Rain reissue, get people's attention and build interest in Prince again before releasing the new stuff. Prince being Prince probably wants to do it the other way round...
Of course Plectrum Electrum may also be complete sh*t and Warners simply don't want to release it. This is also a highly probable scenario.
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Reply #17 posted 07/23/14 11:54am

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Like I've said before:

Over the last year or so, Prince has released more than an album's worth of material, including a handful of 3EG songs.

He's also made available for free almost an hour's worth of full-song live material, both audio and video.

For some reason, this escapes those on here who have ulterior motives and less-than-pure agendas.

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Reply #18 posted 07/23/14 12:10pm

fusk

RodeoSchro said:

Like I've said before:

Over the last year or so, Prince has released more than an album's worth of material, including a handful of 3EG songs.

He's also made available for free almost an hour's worth of full-song live material, both audio and video.

For some reason, this escapes those on here who have ulterior motives and less-than-pure agendas.

pffff, there re plenty of people here who love prince like crazy, but just want to have an album in their hands. No need to get all defensive and accuse those people of prince-hating...

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Reply #19 posted 07/23/14 12:11pm

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This is turning into the Gold Experience part 2, where by time it comes, out, we'll already have heard and been bored with 99% of the songs. When's the last time you put on Screwdriver?
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Reply #20 posted 07/23/14 12:23pm

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Yes he should just shelve PE and move on. It feels like he wants to piss off wb thats why he focus so much on PE rather than PR remsters and solo album
We are living in Orwell's 1984
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/14 12:24pm

RodeoSchro

fusk said:

RodeoSchro said:

Like I've said before:

Over the last year or so, Prince has released more than an album's worth of material, including a handful of 3EG songs.

He's also made available for free almost an hour's worth of full-song live material, both audio and video.

For some reason, this escapes those on here who have ulterior motives and less-than-pure agendas.

pffff, there re plenty of people here who love prince like crazy, but just want to have an album in their hands. No need to get all defensive and accuse those people of prince-hating...



But you've got one! Didn't you read the second sentence of my post? And the third?

You've gotten 2, maybe 3 albums' worth of material over the last two years. Do you not realize that?

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Reply #22 posted 07/23/14 1:58pm

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billymeade said:

This is turning into the Gold Experience part 2, where by time it comes, out, we'll already have heard and been bored with 99% of the songs. When's the last time you put on Screwdriver?


Today.
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Reply #23 posted 07/23/14 3:12pm

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Theory: Prince gets all in a tizz about touring with 3EG - he's having fun it's all going well. He starts blabbing about the new 3EG album even though it isn't finished yet. As recording and touring goes on, and further twitter nonsense is posted hyping the project, discussions with Warners reach pen and ink stage. This leaves the 3EG pissing in the wind because the deal is for Prince himself, and quite understandably Warners want to go ahead per discussions with PR 30th and maybe a new Prince album down the line after that if all goes well. Prince sees the $$$ so doesn't much care about anything else for the moment, until it's time to do some work, he'd rather not bother and just put out the 3EG album since that's in the can by now - but Warners rightly so turn it down because it's a) not PR 30th and b) not a Prince album per se. Cue Prince doing much stamping of feet and throwing his dummy out his pram, being difficult and not really helping much in moving along the PR 30th re-release, which leaves Warners feeling like they've been kicked in the nuts by the same horse twice and relations get frosty. Which all feels very familiar to those of us who've been along for this ride many times before.

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Reply #24 posted 07/23/14 3:46pm

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NouveauDance said:

Theory: Prince gets all in a tizz about touring with 3EG - he's having fun it's all going well. He starts blabbing about the new 3EG album even though it isn't finished yet. As recording and touring goes on, and further twitter nonsense is posted hyping the project, discussions with Warners reach pen and ink stage. This leaves the 3EG pissing in the wind because the deal is for Prince himself, and quite understandably Warners want to go ahead per discussions with PR 30th and maybe a new Prince album down the line after that if all goes well. Prince sees the $$$ so doesn't much care about anything else for the moment, until it's time to do some work, he'd rather not bother and just put out the 3EG album since that's in the can by now - but Warners rightly so turn it down because it's a) not PR 30th and b) not a Prince album per se. Cue Prince doing much stamping of feet and throwing his dummy out his pram, being difficult and not really helping much in moving along the PR 30th re-release, which leaves Warners feeling like they've been kicked in the nuts by the same horse twice and relations get frosty. Which all feels very familiar to those of us who've been along for this ride many times before.

This sounds like the way you would expect things to be more than the way things may be. After all, not many fans expected Prince to sign with Warners again, so perhaps the usual wisdom may not apply?

In any case, it sounds like we're only a few still wanting to hear the 3EG stuff, so I wonder what's all the gripe about.

(Just kidding -- I know all too well).

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Reply #25 posted 07/23/14 4:35pm

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Reply #26 posted 07/23/14 4:44pm

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fnksoul said:

Only a matter of time until someone takes a Recording device into one of these listening parties and leaks it.

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evillol

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Reply #27 posted 07/23/14 8:19pm

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Theory: Prince gets all in a tizz about touring with 3EG - he's having fun it's all going well. He starts blabbing about the new 3EG album even though it isn't finished yet. As recording and touring goes on, and further twitter nonsense is posted hyping the project, discussions with Warners reach pen and ink stage. This leaves the 3EG pissing in the wind because the deal is for Prince himself, and quite understandably Warners want to go ahead per discussions with PR 30th and maybe a new Prince album down the line after that if all goes well. Prince sees the $$$ so doesn't much care about anything else for the moment, until it's time to do some work, he'd rather not bother and just put out the 3EG album since that's in the can by now - but Warners rightly so turn it down because it's a) not PR 30th and b) not a Prince album per se. Cue Prince doing much stamping of feet and throwing his dummy out his pram, being difficult and not really helping much in moving along the PR 30th re-release, which leaves Warners feeling like they've been kicked in the nuts by the same horse twice and relations get frosty. Which all feels very familiar to those of us who've been along for this ride many times before.

Exactly.This whole scenario feels really familiar,doesn't it? lol

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Reply #28 posted 07/23/14 9:28pm

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this project should just die already so we can move on to the PR remaster

and his own new solo album.

at this speed, we're not going to hear his solo album until next year since

there simply isn't enough time to promote 3 different projects in 6 months.

the whole focus should have been on PR by now and then on the wave of

that, his new album.

he must really love this project because otherwise he would have just put

the 3 best tracks on his own album and call it a day.

I agree. PE should have come out last year. PR Remaster should have been out in June setting up the new WB cd in the fall. I am so tired of hearing about Plectrum Electrum. The best song Screwdriver got pulled off of the album in the 100 configuration changes. This album just needs to go away. It missed its window of opportunity. Lets just focus on the remaster now and build the momentum for his new WB album. If he still wants to do PE just do a download thing just to appease the die hard fans who still want it. Anything more just seems like a waste of time with that album.

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Reply #29 posted 07/23/14 10:04pm

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If only he would have listened to what trax and lstenSzek said we would all be alot happier. Its like he got his name back around by making TV appearances, made headlines by signing back with Warners and made up all this hype, then everything just paused for a moment. It would have been a perfect time to release SOMETHING, at least. But noooo, here we are hanging on the Prince cliff by a single thread. All that good self advertisement gone down the drain along with the sales and money he could have made if he made better choices. I give P the benefit of the doubt. But by now I should have 3 albums in my hands. Please prove me wrong P. I wanna see an album and I dont mean soon, I MEAN NOW!
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