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Reply #150 posted 07/22/14 6:30am

iZsaZsa

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What?
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Reply #151 posted 07/22/14 6:47am

luvsexy4all

now if he would just add the guitar solo to the breakdown.....

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Reply #152 posted 07/22/14 7:23am

paulludvig

luvsexy4all said:

now if he would just add the guitar solo to the breakdown.....

Not sure it would work as well on The Breakdown. The Breakdown is a song where you would kind of expect a guitar solo. On A&B it comes out of left field. To me that's more interesting.

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Reply #153 posted 07/22/14 9:09am

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love it...ethereal

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Reply #154 posted 07/22/14 10:04am

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KeithyT said:

Well if I do add this to my itunes I'll group it with Parade. July 1986 was obviously not the same recording sessions but I think it fits more with that sound than Dream Factory/Crystal Ball/SOTT sound...?


Definitely, fits perfect next to In All My Dreams, which to me sounds out of place on Dream Factory. smile
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Reply #155 posted 07/22/14 11:36am

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I guess Prince used E more than once...

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Reply #156 posted 07/22/14 12:16pm

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Pentacle said:


I guess Prince used E more than once...

Indeed! This whole era is laced in psychadelics ...

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Reply #157 posted 07/22/14 12:22pm

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Ok, I'm gonna contribute..when I've finished listening... lol

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Reply #158 posted 07/22/14 12:37pm

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Wow eek

I so miss the way all the layers appear to effortlessly fit together to make a speciall 'whole'. IMHO that's what's been missing for the longest time.

I was intrigued as to who the players were on this - Prince, Eric L and Atlanta B (Princevault).

I love this track, it flows so hypnotically. Lovin' the guitarplaying and tone too. I love that there are tracks like this that I'm still experiencing as a Prince fan of 29 years. cool

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Reply #159 posted 07/22/14 1:41pm

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Love it. Wish we were getting official tracks like this these days.

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Reply #160 posted 07/22/14 1:50pm

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The vault book gives it a really bad review.

It calls the melody "bland and insubstantial".

It says the production is "cluttered and overwrought".

The review reads as if they had heard it and it makes no mention of the guitar solo, which Akes me wonder if they heard an earlier version.

Maybe the version Susan Rogers heard wasn't this one and he finished it off later adding the guitar solo.
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Reply #161 posted 07/22/14 1:54pm

paulludvig

Romeoblu said:

The vault book gives it a really bad review. It calls the melody "bland and insubstantial". It says the production is "cluttered and overwrought". The review reads as if they had heard it and it makes no mention of the guitar solo, which Akes me wonder if they heard an earlier version. Maybe the version Susan Rogers heard wasn't this one and he finished it off later adding the guitar solo.

Maybe the writers of The Vault just pretended to have heard it and based their review on descriptions offered by others?

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Reply #162 posted 07/22/14 2:18pm

Romeoblu

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Romeoblu said:


The vault book gives it a really bad review. It calls the melody "bland and insubstantial". It says the production is "cluttered and overwrought". The review reads as if they had heard it and it makes no mention of the guitar solo, which Akes me wonder if they heard an earlier version. Maybe the version Susan Rogers heard wasn't this one and he finished it off later adding the guitar solo.

Maybe the writers of The Vault just pretended to have heard it and based their review on descriptions offered by others?




Maybe, but there are certain songs they review in the book that at the time hadn't leaked where they quote the lyrics and also give detailed descriptions as if they have heard the song themselves, where others they don't and just quote people's memories of the songs.

You can read through the unreleased song section and pick out the songs that are possibly more likely to leak.

I remember thinking to myself this before and made a quick list and since, The Max 88, American in Paris and now Adonis have leaked.

This gives me hope for Cosmic Day, as this is one song where the review is written as if the writer has heard it.
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Reply #163 posted 07/22/14 2:19pm

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I rate the track somewhere in the middle between 80s classic and Susan Rogers' review:

From 'Turn It Up 2.0'

'"It was sappy and just plain silly", says Susan Rogers of 'Adonis and Bathsheeba', which she describes as a syrupy and sentimental ballad. "I mean, there's romantic love and there's syrupy love - this was pure saccharine. The chorus went 'Adonis and Bathsheeba in a garden of love' and a harp came on.

I was sitting there as quiet as possible but I had a laughing fit and I just couldn't stop. And I was really embarrassed because I was sitting next to Prince and he asked "What's the matter with you?". I said, "I'm sorry, I just think the song is really funny". And he said, "You don't like the harp?". He would often ask us our opinion. I said, "I've got to be truthful, I think the whole thing is just silly. I just don't think it's worthy of your best work". He didn't like criticism but we didn't work much longer on it".

The swooning, yearning music of 'Adonis and Bathsheeba' is clearly intended to summon thoughts of romance, but the overall result is disappointing due to the bland and insubstantial melody as well as Prince's quivering, affected vocal delivery. The arrangement is cluttered and overwrought with strings, horns and other instruments competing for attention.

The song was tracked in Prince's home studio on July 27th 1986, shortly after he had completed the final version of 'Dream Factory'. Eric Leeds added a saxophone part on the same day. Prince appears to be fond of it as the lyrics were published in '10,000' magazine released in 1993 under his supervision. Furthermore, Eric remembers Prince commenting to him that he thought it was "one of the best lyrics" he had ever written. The song was one of the 17 chosen by fans during the 'Prince: A Celebration' week in 2000 for inclusion on a possible 'Crystal Ball Volume 2' album'.
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Reply #164 posted 07/22/14 2:27pm

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Dsoul said:

I rate the track somewhere in the middle between 80s classic and Susan Rogers' review: From 'Turn It Up 2.0' '"It was sappy and just plain silly", says Susan Rogers of 'Adonis and Bathsheeba', which she describes as a syrupy and sentimental ballad. "I mean, there's romantic love and there's syrupy love - this was pure saccharine. The chorus went 'Adonis and Bathsheeba in a garden of love' and a harp came on. I was sitting there as quiet as possible but I had a laughing fit and I just couldn't stop. And I was really embarrassed because I was sitting next to Prince and he asked "What's the matter with you?". I said, "I'm sorry, I just think the song is really funny". And he said, "You don't like the harp?". He would often ask us our opinion. I said, "I've got to be truthful, I think the whole thing is just silly. I just don't think it's worthy of your best work". He didn't like criticism but we didn't work much longer on it". The swooning, yearning music of 'Adonis and Bathsheeba' is clearly intended to summon thoughts of romance, but the overall result is disappointing due to the bland and insubstantial melody as well as Prince's quivering, affected vocal delivery. The arrangement is cluttered and overwrought with strings, horns and other instruments competing for attention. The song was tracked in Prince's home studio on July 27th 1986, shortly after he had completed the final version of 'Dream Factory'. Eric Leeds added a saxophone part on the same day. Prince appears to be fond of it as the lyrics were published in '10,000' magazine released in 1993 under his supervision. Furthermore, Eric remembers Prince commenting to him that he thought it was "one of the best lyrics" he had ever written. The song was one of the 17 chosen by fans during the 'Prince: A Celebration' week in 2000 for inclusion on a possible 'Crystal Ball Volume 2' album'. [Edited 7/22/14 14:20pm]

Hm.. there isn't any sax on the song as far as I can tell. There's flute though. And strings? Not sure about that either.

And I disagree with the sentiment that this is "pure saccharine". The harmonies tell a more complex story - there's hint of both doubt and danger.

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[Edited 7/22/14 14:30pm]

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Reply #165 posted 07/22/14 2:34pm

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For some reason the guitar solo reminds me of the one from The Rapture in The Scandalous Sex Suite. Love this song!
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Reply #166 posted 07/22/14 5:25pm

littlebandit

I posit that those samples that supposedly came from a sampler tape to interests singers wasnt it at all. I bet it was a sampler tape of some of the stuff sitting in the goody drawers of our esteemed collectors. There's no way some singer would have tackled adonis and bathsheeba or Big House or Cosmic Day.

They wouldnt sound good at all coming from anybody else AND those songs I know are definitely in collector's hands.

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Reply #167 posted 07/22/14 5:29pm

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Apparently just found it at one of my ole' haunts. Download now but have yet to listen. I don't know how HARD or EASY it is to find but if you really look in the usual various places I believe you will find it. cool Also everyone is talking about the guitar which is indeed great but I think the horn part on it is just as good and I love it as well! Is that Eric playing?

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Reply #168 posted 07/22/14 6:14pm

paulludvig

Love2tha9s said:

Apparently just found it at one of my ole' haunts. Download now but have yet to listen. I don't know how HARD or EASY it is to find but if you really look in the usual various places I believe you will find it. cool Also everyone is talking about the guitar which is indeed great but I think the horn part on it is just as good and I love it as well! Is that Eric playing?

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Well it's mostly trumpets, so Atlanta Bliss. And a bit of flute played by Eric.

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Reply #169 posted 07/22/14 6:19pm

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^Eric's tenor sax work is in there as well. He's playing a unison part with Blistan's muted trumpet which masks the part a bit. But it's in there.
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Reply #170 posted 07/22/14 6:29pm

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Better than I expected

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Reply #171 posted 07/22/14 6:32pm

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Hmmmm....where to slot it in the Squirrel extended album files.

Its like an inbetween love child of the Parade and SOTT era. Stuck it on an extended Parade on the way to work today and it didn't gel. Fits better with Splash, All My Dreams and Crucial. I'm going to have to create a new category, "Under The Factory Times".


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Reply #172 posted 07/22/14 6:49pm

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Nice track, although the guitar solo sounds quite uninspired. Would have preferred Eric playing a solo on this.

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Reply #173 posted 07/22/14 7:08pm

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God, I love it so much. I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO IT.

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Reply #174 posted 07/22/14 7:40pm

TheKid94

Been wanting a full version of this song to leak ever since I heard the short snippet we were left with.

Probably the best thing I'm hearing from Prince as of late. The harmonies, the lyrics, the horns, the melody, cheesy yes, yet it's got that Prince quirk.

Oh and yes for the guitar solo at the end cool

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Reply #175 posted 07/22/14 9:15pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Hmmmm....where to slot it in the Squirrel extended album files.

Its like an inbetween love child of the Parade and SOTT era. Stuck it on an extended Parade on the way to work today and it didn't gel. Fits better with Splash, All My Dreams and Crucial. I'm going to have to create a new category, "Under The Factory Times".


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[Edited 7/22/14 18:33pm]

It definitely fits with All My Dreams... I think I have Crucial but I'm gonna have to dig it up to give it another listen...

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Reply #176 posted 07/22/14 10:03pm

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Has KCOOLMUSIQ, commented yet, if not "Masterpiece" lol cool

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Reply #177 posted 07/22/14 10:32pm

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Astasheiks said:

Has KCOOLMUSIQ, commented yet, if not "Masterpiece" lol cool


He doesn't do bootlegs 'ahem' smile
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Reply #178 posted 07/22/14 11:45pm

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when prince still had interest in instrument's timbre and arrangements...

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Reply #179 posted 07/23/14 1:50am

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[Edited 7/24/14 2:15am]

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