ok first of all and most of all my love 4 prince music is just beyond all.but i have a few questions since the 90s prince has stated his hate 4 the music labels and his fight with warner brothers and now he is back with them still complaining about how long it take 2 get something released.

question???? before u resigned or went back 2 warner didnt it dawn on u 2 get some clarity on how often or your schedule for releasing product?? and if it didnt fit with your beliefs why sign until u get what u want?

#2 what happened 2 this kolbart deal that u signed??? i need some answers

I think it's Kobalt..? and not Kolbart..

Prince's deal with Kobalt is for Kobalt Label Services - ie, the label is NPG Records and KLS handle the distribution, pressing, etc.

It seems like the Warners deal is for a Prince solo album.

The likelihood - at this stage - is that Plectrum Electrum will come out on Kobalt preceding the Prince solo album on Warners.

Of course, anything could happen.

thedance said:

I think it's Kobalt..? and not Kolbart..

KolBart Van Hemelen

thedance said:

cbarnes3121 said:

thedance said:

I think it's Kobalt..? and not Kolbart..

U could of kept that to yourself English teacher regardless of the spelling the point is out there

Could have--but since entering Kolbart into Google gets me stuff about the Kolb Art Gallery, and there's a very slight possibility that Prince could have gotten a deal with them, it could have caused confusion... and besides, what the heck is wrong with getting things correct? And why smart off to someone when they fix it?

Now, my changing the "of" to "have"--that's a (former) English teacher thing to do. However, I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't asked for it.

Militant said:

The likelihood - at this stage - is that Plectrum Electrum will come out on Kobalt preceding the Prince solo album on Warners.

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

EddieC said:

cbarnes3121 said:

thedance said: U could of kept that to yourself English teacher regardless of the spelling the point is out there

Could have--but since entering Kolbart into Google gets me stuff about the Kolb Art Gallery, and there's a very slight possibility that Prince could have gotten a deal with them, it could have caused confusion... and besides, what the heck is wrong with getting things correct? And why smart off to someone when they fix it?

Now, my changing the "of" to "have"--that's a (former) English teacher thing to do. However, I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't asked for it.

This is one of the more irritating grammar mistakes that I see repeated over and over until I can't stand it anymore...

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BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:

The likelihood - at this stage - is that Plectrum Electrum will come out on Kobalt preceding the Prince solo album on Warners.

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

And their deal is..............????? Have you seen the paperwork?

luv4u said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

And their deal is..............????? Have you seen the paperwork?

It is a valid assumption based on the history of big labels, though.

Especially in these times competition is up or rather the profitablity is under pressure.

udo said:

luv4u said:

And their deal is..............????? Have you seen the paperwork?

It is a valid assumption based on the history of big labels, though.

Especially in these times competition is up or rather the profitablity is under pressure.

Thanks for the explanation

It's CKlobart right? I dont spwell tu gud.

purplethunder3121 said:

EddieC said:

Could have--but since entering Kolbart into Google gets me stuff about the Kolb Art Gallery, and there's a very slight possibility that Prince could have gotten a deal with them, it could have caused confusion... and besides, what the heck is wrong with getting things correct? And why smart off to someone when they fix it?

Now, my changing the "of" to "have"--that's a (former) English teacher thing to do. However, I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't asked for it.

This is one of the more irritating grammar mistakes that I see repeated over and over until I can't stand it anymore...

[Edited 7/13/14 10:56am]

BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:

The likelihood - at this stage - is that Plectrum Electrum will come out on Kobalt preceding the Prince solo album on Warners.

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

If the album is labelled as 3rd Eye Girl.....not Prince. Isn't that how it worked with the NPG Exodus and Goldnigga albums? Also, they obviously know that the Kobalt deal preceded theirs.

Guess we'll see.

kenkamken said:

hell has exta space reserve yourself a seat

Militant said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

If the album is labelled as 3rd Eye Girl.....not Prince. Isn't that how it worked with the NPG Exodus and Goldnigga albums? Also, they obviously know that the Kobalt deal preceded theirs.

Guess we'll see.

And if I understand right, they were very pleased with that approach... so it should work fine.

But yeah, I don't see that they really have a valid position to object to anything, since the album's been Prince's apparent focus for well over a year.

Militant said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There is no way WB will allow P to release anything outside of their deal.

If the album is labelled as 3rd Eye Girl.....not Prince. Isn't that how it worked with the NPG Exodus and Goldnigga albums?

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Those were tolerated by WB. The current situation is completely different. Exodus was slated for release by WB in the USA until P decided that he couldn't shut up and had to badmouth WB in an interview, which was their one demand WRT Exodus.

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Also, they obviously know that the Kobalt deal preceded theirs.

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So what? The Kobalt deal hasn't bore fruit in all this time, and now there's suddenly an urgent need to release the 3EG record? It ain't happening; just look at how the 3EG record was heavily promoted earlier this year and then completely dropped, and the Euro tour became yet another Greatest Hits show. It is patently obvious WB demanded exclusivity. The only reason Prince is now bringing up 3EG again is because he wants to bitch about WB.

EddieC said:

And if I understand right, they were very pleased with that approach...

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No they weren't. You really think a major label is happy that one of their artists is breaking their rules and releasing product under a pseudonym? WB only tolerated that because they hoped it would reduce the temper tantrums, but they never were happy about that.

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But yeah, I don't see that they really have a valid position to object to anything, since the album's been Prince's apparent focus for well over a year.

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It's been his focus on and off. More off than on.

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And the valid position is the one in the WB contract, which will include an exclusivity clause.

BartVanHemelen said:

EddieC said:

And if I understand right, they were very pleased with that approach...

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No they weren't. You really think a major label is happy that one of their artists is breaking their rules and releasing product under a pseudonym? WB only tolerated that because they hoped it would reduce the temper tantrums, but they never were happy about that.

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But yeah, I don't see that they really have a valid position to object to anything, since the album's been Prince's apparent focus for well over a year.

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It's been his focus on and off. More off than on.

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And the valid position is the one in the WB contract, which will include an exclusivity clause.

Add a missing emoticon expressing sarcasm if you have to have one. The problem is that sarcasm with an indicator is no longer sarcasm, so I hate putting them on. I thought the statement was so ridiculous that it would be appreciated in the spirit intended.

As to whether the WB contract "will include an exclusivity clause"--you're speculating the same as everyone else. If I were them I would have gotten it, if possible. But that doesn't mean they did. Prince obviously would have been coming at things from a position in which he didn't want one, and would have been fighting for that. Neither one of us knows who won that battle.

EddieC said:

Add a missing emoticon expressing sarcasm if you have to have one. The problem is that sarcasm with an indicator is no longer sarcasm, so I hate putting them on. I thought the statement was so ridiculous that it would be appreciated in the spirit intended.

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I've seen nuttier ideas promoted on this site as valid.

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As to whether the WB contract "will include an exclusivity clause"--you're speculating the same as everyone else. If I were them I would have gotten it, if possible. But that doesn't mean they did. Prince obviously would have been coming at things from a position in which he didn't want one, and would have been fighting for that. Neither one of us knows who won that battle.

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Considering that he's bitching about WB being slow in releasing music, and considering that all talk of a release of 3EG's record disappeared as soon as the WB deal was announced...

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Plus: Prince's position wasn't the strong one in that negotiation. He wanted those masters, and WB's only concessions seems to be that they'll release a new Prince album along with the PR remaster.

BartVanHemelen said:

EddieC said:

Add a missing emoticon expressing sarcasm if you have to have one. The problem is that sarcasm with an indicator is no longer sarcasm, so I hate putting them on. I thought the statement was so ridiculous that it would be appreciated in the spirit intended.

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I've seen nuttier ideas promoted on this site as valid.

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Okay, that's definitely true.