Genesia said:

Maybe Mom is a woman of standards, who would rather not hear such words in the company of her child and grandchild.

And the f word is never appropriate for a 5-year-old to hear. Ever.

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Out of respect, I'm not going to challenge those ideals...to each their own....but you must not live on this planet if you think a 5 year old isn't hearing the word, or hearing songs about sex. I heard "Sookie Sookie" in a supermarket the other day.

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Look, I knew kids that weren't allowed to watch TV or eat candy growing up. What do you think happened when they got out of the house, or got near a TV?

Alexandernvrmind said:

Words are powerful and the f word is inappropriate and offensive to many.

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It's a word used to denegrate or a slang word used to describe a sexual act.

Prince used it to describe sex, but the shame or displeasure you feel comes from attitudes towards sex itself, not the language used.

treehouse said:

treehouse said:

Genesia said:

You know that thing I said a couple of posts ago about the org being the home of moral equivalence. Exhibit A.

So, not only do you think a word can be bad, now you're also suggesting use of a word can be immoral? A word?!? Really? Wow!!

Words strung together to form an idea can together be bad and can communicate immorality.

A single word by itself simply cannot.

Especially a word like "fuck" that has so many meanings. Even it's main meaning is simply a euphamism for sex, which... is NOT bad!

If there are "bad" words, explain how it's possible to cut someone down, to belittle them and be so mean they cry, without using a single "bad word"? Or, how is it possible to make people feel happy and sometimes laugh their asses off, all while using a whole bunch of "bad words"?

Thoughts and intentions can be bad and even immoral. A single word cannot.

Likewise, there are no good words or moral words...

Alexandernvrmind said:

Get real... And out of fantasy land. Words are powerful and the f word is inappropriate and offensive to many. For you to try and argue that from some fantasy land utopia soapbox is absurd... And flat stupid. No words are bad lol you sound ridiculous.

Not only do you resort to name-calling, but you also seem to need help with your reading comprehension skills.

To wit:

I never claimed that the word fuck isn't inappropriate, or that it wasn't "offensive to many". I very clearly have said that no word is "bad". That statement does not address the appropriateness or potential offensiveness of the word fuck.

However, since you brought it up, I'll happily share my thoughts on the appropriateness and offensiveness of the word fuck:

Of course the word fuck is offensive to many, on this we do not disagree. However, this fact has no bearing on whether the word is bad or not. Being offensive to some is not enough to make a word bad. Many words offend many people. These words are not bad, nor should they be censored.

As to appropriateness: The word fuck is sometimes inappropriate, in mixed company for example. At other times however, it is not only appropriate, it is the single most appropriate word possible. So, there, NOW I'm saying the word fuck isn't inappropriate. Just for you.

Words can only be as powerful as the listener allows. They're not magic.

George Carlin said it best:

"There are some people that are not into all the words.
There are some that would have you not use certain words.
There are 400,000 words in the English language and there are 7
of them you can't say on television. What a ratio that is.
399,993 to 7. They must really be bad. They'd have to be outrageous
to be seperated from a group that large. All of you over here,you 7,
Bad Words. That's what they told us they were, remember?
"That's a bad word!" No bad words, bad thoughts, bad intentions,
and words. You know the 7, don't you, that you can't say on television?
"Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, CockSucker, MotherFucker, and Tits"
Those are the heavy seven. Those are the ones that'll infect your soul,
curve your spine, and keep the country from winning the war."

And, as my mom used to say:

"Sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt you."

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databank said:

Bait thread

D'oh! You called it.

Wow!

Alexandernvrmind said:

Yeah and that's a distinction that I want yo explain to a 5 year old .... Koo koo koo koo lol. It's crude nut case

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You're just name calling at this point, but I have to ask, why are you playing Prince for your kid at all if you feel that way? Are your family allowed to listen to something like When You Were Mine, that doesn't use curse words?

treehouse said:

wow!.....chill guys...chill no need 2 get nasty.......

Lots of big ego's on the Org lately!

funkaholic1972 said:

Lots of big ego's on the Org lately!

"lately"?!?

funkaholic1972 said:

Lots of big ego's on the Org lately!

djThunderfunk said:

funkaholic1972 said:

Lots of big ego's on the Org lately!

"lately"?!?

It was always the case indeed, but in the last few days some of the orgers seem almost unbearable.

Alexandernvrmind said:

And responses like this are why..... I am calling you names. READ! Stop being so lazy. Read what people say and then comment intelligently.

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Perhaps you haven't articulated your point clearly?

The name calling isn't doing you any favors.

Prince deals with adult concepts.....I'm trying to have an adult conversation with you.

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treehouse said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

if you had really read what I wrote you wouldn't have asked such a silly question

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Wasn't much substance. You keep saying words are powerful, but even as abrassive as yours have been, they're pretty weak at getting your point across. I asked you a specific question about songs. What early Prince songs do you play your family?

treehouse said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

Yep lazy.... Stop smoking the weed...it will help with comprehension.

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I've never smoked weed in my life, and I'm clearly not lazy, with the amount of pulling teeth I'm doing here to get you to defend your own half baked, moral argument against early Prince.

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There's a discussion to be had here. If you're scared to have it, then cool, but stop hurling insults.

Alexandernvrmind said:

treehouse said:

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You're just name calling at this point, but I have to ask, why are you playing Prince for your kid at all if you feel that way? Are your family allowed to listen to something like When You Were Mine, that doesn't use curse words?

And responses like this are why..... I am calling you names. READ! Stop being so lazy. Read what people say and then comment intelligently.

THAT's some hilarious right there!!

treehouse said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

treehouse said:

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I've never smoked weed in my life, and I'm clearly not lazy, with the amount of pulling teeth I'm doing here to get you to defend your own half baked, moral argument against early Prince.

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There's a discussion to be had here. If you're scared to have it, then cool, but stop hurling insults.

Is everyone else reading this goof? Stop being lazy and go read what I said....I'm not going to it for you and nobody is going to bail you out smokey [Edited 6/19/14 20:08pm]

hey chill now guys.....were all Purple Hippies 2gther...if ya cant be nice 2 eachother...atleast have the decency not 2 b nasty...were all adults

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Alexandernvrmind said:

Is everyone else reading this goof? Stop being lazy and go read what I said....I'm not going to it for you and nobody is going to bail you out smokey [Edited 6/19/14 20:08pm]

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Speaking of lazy, your name calling is boring.

I'm not challenging your Victorian morals, but I asked you a pointed question - is language content worse to you than sexual content?

Run out of this thread if you're afraid to state your opinion in a respectful way.

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Anyone out there want to speak for him? He's asking for help, apprently.

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treehouse said:

Alexandernvrmind said:

Is everyone else reading this goof? Stop being lazy and go read what I said....I'm not going to it for you and nobody is going to bail you out smokey [Edited 6/19/14 20:08pm]

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Speaking of lazy, your name calling is boring.

I'm not challenging your Victorian morals, but I asked you a pointed question - is language content worse to you than sexual content?

Run out of this thread if you're afraid to state your opinion in a respectful way.

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Anyone out there want to speak for him? He's asking for help, apprently.

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yes please somebody help me... apprently I need help LMAO!

go away with your strawman argument... if you want to have an intelligent conversation then do so...

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Alexandernvrmind said:

treehouse said:

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Speaking of lazy, your name calling is boring.

I'm not challenging your Victorian morals, but I asked you a pointed question - is language content worse to you than sexual content?

Run out of this thread if you're afraid to state your opinion in a respectful way.

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Anyone out there want to speak for him? He's asking for help, apprently.

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yes please somebody help me... apprently I need help LMAO!

go away with your strawman argument... if you want to have an intelligent conversation then do so...

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basically all Alex sed was he didnt think it was right for him 2 play songs such as Bob George "you seeing that bitch mutha fucker again" and Erotic City "We can fuck until the dawn"......well I dont think alot of parents would play that kinda music infront of there 5 year old child.......so kudo's 2 u alex......but as Tree asked is it the "Sexual" part of the song worse 2 u (which 2 be fair is 80% of P's 80's catalouge) or is it the bad language as in the words themselves "Mutha Fucker"......etc......cuz words only have the amount of power U allow them have....I think that's what he means anyway?

Optimus2 said:

well I dont think alot of parents would play that kinda music infront of there 5 year old child.......

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Course not...because by 5, baby is too busy playing his parents his latest dubstep remix, full of cursing samples.

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Look, to each their own, I'd rather let my kids hear Prince, and teach them "good touch, bad touch". I just think it's smarter to instill kids with the education that exposes them to adult things in a loving, controlled atmosphere. The best way to protect a kid is to expose them to the idea, and let 'em know it's for grown ups only. I just don't get people who love Prince that feel like they've got to hide it with the porno mags!!!

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What age is it suddenly appropriate to play a kid Erotic City? Age of consent? When they're 72 with grandkids? Apparently not even then.

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treehouse said:

Optimus2 said:

well I dont think alot of parents would play that kinda music infront of there 5 year old child.......

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Course not...because by 5, baby is too busy playing his parents his latest dubstep remix, full of cursing samples.

GeorginaMcG said:

I really hope he doesn't!! I'd like to see remasters in which he leaves in all that stuff! I don't like the idea that the current prince and the old prince are two totally different people, I loved him back then and I'd hope he'd still have the same attitude and views, depite being a JW now, I'd still love it if he ignored that for a second and remastered great songs like Erotic City without censoring them, and also I'd love if he'd release new songs like those, or at least perform some of his 'dirtier' songs live, Afterall it's what I love him for! Just on another note, I know it'd never happen, but I'd love him to perform 'Head'live again; I can't think of anything greater!

GeorginaMcG said:

I'd love him to perform 'Head'live again; I can't think of anything greater!

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I kinda don't picture him doing that even if he was airing out all the smut again. The funny thing is, he's plenty naughty as it is. I mean, what can he do, stop singing innuendos in Pop Life, or making vulgar shadow puppets during the Super Bowl?