Will we ever see a return to 'normal' tours?

I.e.:

Announcements, presales, etc a few months in advance of the actual show dates with proper communication during a tour, no nights with two or three 'normal' shows except of course the occasional aftershow.

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I know this may sound as a rhetorical question, and perhaps it is, but after discussing the very recent hit and run events in europe this point arose...

So what do you think?

I wish he'd go back to a stadium tour with full blown production with dancers, lights, costume changes, explosions and whatnot ala Nude tour etc.

And yeah, it would help if these concerts would be announced in a timely fashion.

I'd hate if he went back to "dancers, lights, costume changes, explosions and whatnot", although a bit of advance warning for things would be nice. I wonder does it costs buckets of extra money to pin him down several months in advance for a show.

udo said:

Will we ever see a return to 'normal' tours?

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If that is your question, then why not put THAT as the thread title instead of "question about tours"?

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

Will we ever see a return to 'normal' tours?

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If that is your question, then why not put THAT as the thread title instead of "question about tours"?

Then what use is the body of the message?

And what is your answer to the question?

jaawwnn said:

I'd hate if he went back to "dancers, lights, costume changes, explosions and whatnot", although a bit of advance warning for things would be nice. I wonder does it costs buckets of extra money to pin him down several months in advance for a show.

It actually costs him tons of money to do things the way he is doing them. There have been several shows with tons of empty seats. Even some of the smaller clubs have failed to sellout where he has been cutting the price at showtime, or even giving them away for free.

Prince has the easy life, and has no idea that he has fans aged 25-60 who have lives and responsibilities and can't drop everything to go to a show at the last minute. His last super money maker was Musicology where tickets went on sale sometimes over a month in advance, and he made more profit from that tour than any other in his ENTIRE career.

His date at the Essence festival has been known for months, and will be his largest attended USA show since 2004 by far.

But Prince REFUSES to do things that make sense, regardless of money. For someone that talks

about being "#1 at the bank," he doesn't always make decisions that will lead to that.

I'm sure the last thing he wants are full arenas with fans who were able to plan to go see him...NO WAY...he wants only spur of the moment people with no responsibility at his shows..

stillwaiting said:

jaawwnn said:

I'd hate if he went back to "dancers, lights, costume changes, explosions and whatnot", although a bit of advance warning for things would be nice. I wonder does it costs buckets of extra money to pin him down several months in advance for a show.

It actually costs him tons of money to do things the way he is doing them. There have been several shows with tons of empty seats. Even some of the smaller clubs have failed to sellout where he has been cutting the price at showtime, or even giving them away for free.

Prince has the easy life, and has no idea that he has fans aged 25-60 who have lives and responsibilities and can't drop everything to go to a show at the last minute. His last super money maker was Musicology where tickets went on sale sometimes over a month in advance, and he made more profit from that tour than any other in his ENTIRE career.

His date at the Essence festival has been known for months, and will be his largest attended USA show since 2004 by far.

But Prince REFUSES to do things that make sense, regardless of money. For someone that talks

about being "#1 at the bank," he doesn't always make decisions that will lead to that.

I'm sure the last thing he wants are full arenas with fans who were able to plan to go see him...NO WAY...he wants only spur of the moment people with no responsibility at his shows..

D'ye think? I would have guessed that he charges X fee for a show (depending on the size) and then it's up to the venue to fill it. He gets his money either way, maybe with a stipulation that if only, say, 20% of tickets are sold then the venue can cancel it.

He gets his money, although he could be burning bridges for future shows.

stillwaiting said:

But Prince REFUSES to do things that make sense, regardless of money. For someone that talks

about being "#1 at the bank," he doesn't always make decisions that will lead to that.

Oh COME ON! That quote is 18 years old.

ludwig said:

stillwaiting said:

But Prince REFUSES to do things that make sense, regardless of money. For someone that talks

about being "#1 at the bank," he doesn't always make decisions that will lead to that.

Oh COME ON! That quote is 18 years old.

So?

He migth not say it openly but the vibe is still very much there!

BartVanHemelen said:

good question. idk. i doubt it. i do wish he would just do a regular show to promote a new album with a mix of some hits, mostly new stuff, b-sides/outtakes, no covers. then maybe an aftershow playing rearranged hits, mostly b-sides/ and a few covers.

Personally,I don't like these "hit-and-run" type shows where the tickets go on sale suddenly,for a show that takes place the next day Like someone said,Prince fans are older now.We have families,jobs and other obligations.When I was a teenager,it was easy to skip school to stand in line to buy tickets at a moment's notice,lol.I can't do that stuff nowadays.

I'm seeing Santana in concert next month.Earlier this year,he announced all of the dates well in advance.No games,no gimmicks.It would be so cool if Prince could do a well-planned,organized tour again.

shamonka said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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If that is your question, then why not put THAT as the thread title instead of "question about tours"?

I second that, can't stand a vague or misleading title

Thanks for the compliment.

Why then are you still here?

Why then no response to the question about tours?

Because that's what it is about.

stillwaiting said:

jaawwnn said:

I'd hate if he went back to "dancers, lights, costume changes, explosions and whatnot", although a bit of advance warning for things would be nice. I wonder does it costs buckets of extra money to pin him down several months in advance for a show.

It actually costs him tons of money to do things the way he is doing them. There have been several shows with tons of empty seats. Even some of the smaller clubs have failed to sellout where he has been cutting the price at showtime, or even giving them away for free.

Prince has the easy life, and has no idea that he has fans aged 25-60 who have lives and responsibilities and can't drop everything to go to a show at the last minute. His last super money maker was Musicology where tickets went on sale sometimes over a month in advance, and he made more profit from that tour than any other in his ENTIRE career.

His date at the Essence festival has been known for months, and will be his largest attended USA show since 2004 by far.

But Prince REFUSES to do things that make sense, regardless of money. For someone that talks

about being "#1 at the bank," he doesn't always make decisions that will lead to that.

I'm sure the last thing he wants are full arenas with fans who were able to plan to go see him...NO WAY...he wants only spur of the moment people with no responsibility at his shows..

He does a live show with little advance notice to stop or severally reduce scalping of tickets.

His formula of price ticket prices are similar to the way airlines price their tickets and is the standard for large acts and Sports teams. Higher tickets prices for first comers and some reduction in price as the event gets closer (unless a sale out.). So, you could pay 300 for your seat and someone next to you could have paid 100 dollars (Just like with the airlines.). It doesn't matter if their are empty seats because he made the money off the high end tickets.

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udo said:

shamonka said:

BartVanHemelen said: I second that, can't stand a vague or misleading title

Thanks for the compliment.

Why then are you still here?

Why then no response to the question about tours?

Because that's what it is about.

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That's what it should be about, but YOUR VAGUE TITLE was more annoying.

udo said:

Will we ever see a return to 'normal' tours?

I.e.:

Announcements, presales, etc a few months in advance of the actual show dates with proper communication during a tour, no nights with two or three 'normal' shows except of course the occasional aftershow.

.

I know this may sound as a rhetorical question, and perhaps it is, but after discussing the very recent hit and run events in europe this point arose...

So what do you think?

I hope that. I liked his performances hit and run style but just because he's Prince. To be honest, I don't like the concept. I buy my ticket to see play his music, to enjoy this moment, taking his time to enjoy, as he always did, not to see him going fast because he has another show to play 1h later.

In a 'normal' tour we can have also on stage a good band, not something like 3eyegirLOL, and the chance too to see some good guest play with him, like Maceo.

Yes I hope to see him again on a 'normal' tour.

if the revolution tours PR remaster I bet they will announce it well ahead of time .. otherwise probably gonna be the usual

A little more notice would be nice, I would however like to see an accoustic only live tour.

I think we will remain stuck to this "ramdon loop" from the last ten years. Eveything is recyclable and interchangeable - And we could get anything from the old symbol stage AGAIN for another tour somewhere, to the double-gig-per-evening formula on smaller venues, and then back to the odd European festival show for the masses.

He'd probably make more money if he'd return to "normal" tours scheduled well in advance. But that also implies a COMMITMENT and certain consistency on the planning and performance. He's much more comformatable under the "expect the unexpected" motto, which no doubt allows him to get away with whatever his erratic mood feels this or that month.

BartVanHemelen said:

udo said:

Thanks for the compliment.

Why then are you still here?

Why then no response to the question about tours?

Because that's what it is about.

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That's what it should be about, but YOUR VAGUE TITLE was more annoying.

More annoying than you?

Wasn't vague was it? "question about tours" it was a question about tours! Could of been a little more precise MAYBE but it is'nt a 1st world problem!