databank said:

ladygirl99 said:

what about Prince and Jill Jones had their fistfights to the point he broken her arm. Jill made an interesting comment on her myspace page that Prince broken Marilyn Monroe arm and yall know she tried to look like her around 1982 to around 1984 or 85.

I dont know if thats true.

IDK where this story comes from but it's been mentionned here b4. Thing is if it was true I think people would have spoke about it in the books, even if it was an accident. I mean seriously breaking someone's arm is serious business, and it doesn't go unnoticed that the person has a broken arm afterwards. The mere fact that Alex Hahn, who was looking for every possible negative thing to write about in his book, missed it makes me think that it's a urban legend.

I don't know if he ever broke her arm,but Jill and Prince had a bitter falling-out in the early 90s.She was pissed when she saw the 'Graffiti Bridge' script (her role was reduced in order to give Ingrid Chavez a bigger role).When she and Prince started working on her second album,she didn't like the tunes he presented to her and asked to be released from her Paisley Park contract.He refused to release her,which meant that she was locked into that contract for seven years.

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Angelsoncrack said:

going back to the Sinead O Connor thing, the thing that always really confused me with that story is that he got mad at her for using vulgar language....yet Prince loved to curse on stage all through the '80s and into the '90s. Hell, half of his '90s albums have parental advisory stickers on them. Hypocrisy?? I dont get it haha

Sinead's story is TOTALLY out of character 4 , which is why I never even believed a glimpse of it. Admitting that they did, in fact, really meet once, what maybe happened is that made a couple of very unpleasant remarks to her or about her in his typical, very cold and mean spirited way because he was pissed at her 4 covering NC2U, and Sinead got pissed and because she was mad at him and looking for attention she made-up that whole story and once it was done she just has to keep repeating it because for the life of her she won't make a fool of herself and admit she lied. never ever was reported to behave the way she said he did with anyone else by anyone, ever. And we're taling dozens of people being interviewed, some of them not hesitating to say very unpleasant things about . He was reported to be mean spirited, an insensitive cold-hearted asshole, whatever, but never like what she describes, ever.

It would be easy to dismiss Sinead's story,since she's not exactly "all there" but Prince has had alot of "drama" with some of his own female proteges,so who knows the real story? I heard that he and Vanity got into some heated arguments before she walked out of the 'Purple Rain' project.Apollonia once said that,when she decided to leave the Prince camp in 1985,he angrily told her "You'll never make it without me".Sheila E. has said that,at one point in the mid- 90s,she wasn't even allowed at Paisley Park anymore.She was very close to Gilbert Davison,but he had a bitter falling-out with Prince,and poor Sheila was caught in the middle.Because she decided to remain friends with Gilbert,Prince (temporarily) cut her out of his life.And of course,we know about the Jill Jones situation (discussed above).So,it's not totally inconceivable that he had some major drama with the feisty Sinead O' Connor."His problem was that,I did a song of his ("Nothing Compares 2 U") without him being involved in it",she said."He's jealous".

SoulAlive said:

databank said:

Sinead's story is TOTALLY out of character 4 , which is why I never even believed a glimpse of it. Admitting that they did, in fact, really meet once, what maybe happened is that made a couple of very unpleasant remarks to her or about her in his typical, very cold and mean spirited way because he was pissed at her 4 covering NC2U, and Sinead got pissed and because she was mad at him and looking for attention she made-up that whole story and once it was done she just has to keep repeating it because for the life of her she won't make a fool of herself and admit she lied. never ever was reported to behave the way she said he did with anyone else by anyone, ever. And we're taling dozens of people being interviewed, some of them not hesitating to say very unpleasant things about . He was reported to be mean spirited, an insensitive cold-hearted asshole, whatever, but never like what she describes, ever.

It would be easy to dismiss Sinead's story,since she's not exactly "all there" but Prince has had alot of "drama" with some of his own female proteges,so who knows the real story? I heard that he and Vanity got into some heated arguments before she walked out of the 'Purple Rain' project.Apollonia once said that,when she decided to leave the Prince camp in 1985,he angrily told her "You'll never make it without me".Sheila E. has said that,at one point in the mid- 90s,she wasn't even allowed at Paisley Park anymore.She was very close to Gilbert Davison,but he had a bitter falling-out with Prince,and poor Sheila was caught in the middle.Because she decided to remain friends with Gilbert,Prince (temporarily) cut her out of his life.And of course,we know about the Jill Jones situation (discussed above).So,it's not totally inconceivable that he had some major drama with the feisty Sinead O' Connor."His problem was that,I did a song of his ("Nothing Compares 2 U") without him being involved in it",she said."He's jealous".

The Lipstick Alley Girl mentioned some of them heated arguments, including the one with W&L&Susannah, and she also explained everything about the "black list" at Paisley Park (it's not just Sheila that was persona non grata, it was almost every past band member including the whole Revolution, and many other people. Mark once came to pay a visit and was told he couldn't get in, etc.) and God knows she told a great deal of dirty stories about being a bitch to others at times, but she totally dismissed the Sinead story saying would never have behaved that way, that it went against everything he believed in (he despises, but like REALLY despises women beaters) and everything she ever saw him do or been told he'd done.

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Blacklisting people, preventing them from getting anywhere close to him, messing up with their careers, putting them down by saying they would b shit if it wasn't 4 him: that's COLD blooded ol' . And yeah has indeed destroyed Jill's career by keeping her a "slave"(how ironic) until her contract ended and he treated many people like shit but Sinead's story is something else ENTIRELY.

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I mean I've told stupid shit like "u'll never make it without me" to some collaborators back when I was younger and I meant it in a very mean way, I've even shouted at some past girlfriends a few times when they REALLY pissed the hell out of me, calling them names and stuff but for the life of me I've never and I would never have attacked anyone PHYSICALLY.

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Physical agression is something some people don't have in their blood, that they won't ever, ever do unless maybe totally spoiled on booze or drugs (and as far as we know this only happend to once and it wasn't on that day). is a cold-blooded animal, and even if he'd lost it once do u think it would have been with a TOTAL stranger? Seriously? Like IDK, I could maybe believe he hit Vanity, Sheila, Susannah, Mayte, Manuela, someone REAL close on a VERY heated argument about a VERY intimate topic. I'd be surprised but OK, I guess even the best people can lose it if it's about cheating or whatever with someone they're really close with. But jumping at a women he's never met b4 because she covered a song of his, something that about 100 people had done b4 her by the way, and he'd met many of those other people b4? Or because she swore or whatever? COME ON. Would u imagine yourself trying to beat the shit out of some girl u've never met over something so trivial. I mean we ain't talking some bad ass rapper who loses it every other Friday, we're talking , a bloody feminine and skinny dude who's never been in a fight since secondary school (and probably lost the fights he got there back then, since TC Ellis had to protect his ass from the strong black guys when stole their girlfriends ).

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I mean u can take bits and pieces and say "yeah but maybe who knows" and yeah indeed who knows after all, we weren't there, but what I can tell u is when 1/ u've read as much about as we have and 2/ u have basic notions in psychology, the complete picture is just loaded with reasons to believe Sinead lied like a rug and there's no logical reason to believe she tells the truth. People keep coming "yeah but he said this and he did that and he was mean to that person and said mean things to that other person": u know what I think? Honest? That's a big ZERO in psychology for all of them. There are many ways of being mean, it's not like "oh u called your wife an idiot once or twice and managed to get a rival colleague fired once so I can totally believe that you've beat that girl to death". It doesn't work like that. People don't work like that.

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Everyone has their patterns and I think we know enough about by now to know what's in character and what's out of character. I can believe each and every one of the stories I've read portraying in a bad light and God knows I've read a lot of them so it's not like I'm defending my hero. But that one story I don't buy. So now YEAH it's true I wasn't there. But I don't buy it.

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ladygirl99 said:

what about Prince and Jill Jones had their fistfights to the point he broken her arm. Jill made an interesting comment on her myspace page that Prince broken Marilyn Monroe arm and yall know she tried to look like her around 1982 to around 1984 or 85.

I dont know if thats true.

Never heard of that one, very hard to believe this one

RE: JJ and Sinead. Prince may be a lot of things but he isn't stupid. I seriously doubt he would do anything that might land him in jail. If these stories were true than one phone call at the time of the incident would land him in handcuffs...I just don't believe he'd risk that, not matter how pissed he was.

artist76 said:

Reading through these, it doesn't seem there's really any cases at all, outside if work related frustrations (messed up rehearsals, malfunctioning equipment, etc.), which is amazing considering the decades he's been a public figure. There was the interview with Anna Fantastic who said he did NOT get angry at all when she wrecked his beautiful car, one that was featured in a video or concert, by scraping it against the garage. But after seeing how, let's say "difficult," Mayte can be, throwing things (that might be acting) and yelling at people til her veins pop out (that was NOT acting, she was truly heated), I can only imagine the arguments they might have had. He looks like the type who can stay calm and passive in the face of vitriol especially if coming from a female, and especially since becoming JW, but he couldn't have stayed calm all the time with all they went through. Especially since she's a fiery type, the kind who pushes buttons, "just being Puerto Rican," as she said herself. Im glad we don't know more about his private personal behavior, and that he doesn't put everything out on twitter and stuff - I'm sure he's lost his temper in major ways, he's human, but I don't need to know about it.

She did that on that Ex girlfriends reality show??? Well, ManOWar is obviously about her anyway This being said it seems was really taking advantage of her youth to make her his "doll" and controlling every aspect of her life in a very odious manner so it's no surprise it couldn't work 4ever as she'd grow up into a woman (that and losing not one but it seems 2 babies).

Ppenguin said:

Do you think he poos and urinates too? I've never heard about him doing it so perhaps he's as amazing as people think and doesn't do that either

even still ....the way he eats its sure to be different than the normal man

luvsexy4all said:

Bambi82 said:

psychodelicide said:

"If you put the fuckin magazine down and play your part! Gooooood!!" OMG, the first time a friend of mine played it for me, I just about fell off my chair, laughing hysterically. I was like, "OMG, Prince is pissed off at somebody! Oooooh!" I still laugh now when I hear it. What makes it even funnier is how Prince's voice gets higher when he says the word, "part!"

I laugh at "part" every time, too.. so funny/cute!

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FragileUndertow said:

Revolution said:

He has been known to smash sand dollars

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actually, i think it's amazing that he keeps his temper as well as he does, considering the crap we 'fans' put him through

FragileUndertow said:

Revolution said:

He has been known to smash sand dollars

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^^^

That reaction pic

Fukken saved

I have that! It's from the "Small Cafe" bootleg.

TrevorAyer said:

who's the fool singing 'will'? .. still 'would' stand all time!

^ correction : "Small Club '88"...

databank said:

thedance said:

Found it:

This is on the boot series from Sabotage: "Purple Rush", "Rehearsal Oct. 1984 #2".

Purple Rush vol 1, on cd 4 out of 6 - sab cd # 142, track #7: "God" - the track is 13:30, this can be heard at 12:22.

Prince: "put that motherfucking magazine down - and play your parts, God!"

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Thanks. He says it with an amused tone, though.

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I guess I have that Nude Tour rehearsal as well but either I still haven't listened 2 it or I did it 20 years ago and never paid attention. I hope I run in2 it one day.

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The girl from Lipsitck Alley, whose authenticity seems legit even though I wouldn't necessarly buy each and every one of her story 4 being factual, said that in maybe 1990 (don't remember 4 sure), had a HUGE (verbal) fight with W&L at a Paisley Park party, him and Wendy really shouted at each other and called each other names, left abruptly, Susannah tried 2 hold him back and he gave her a really mean look so she let him go. About a year after that he had someone from his staff send them a note saying he really thought they'd done a great job with Eroica. All from memory as I didn't copy the thread and it's gone now.

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I never bought Sinead's story, it's totally out of character. He may have told her something really mean but hit her? No way. That Lipstick Alley girl told a whole bunch of really mean stories about but she also said he really, deeply despised women beaters and was always polite with women save that one time with W&L. IIRC. Days Of Wild is 's obvious answer 2 Sinead's allegations.

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Oh yeah, that girl also said that once 's stepfather, who lived with his mom in a house had bought them, once called him 2 ask 4 a bigger house and (who basically despised the man and was only being generous out of a family sense of duty) got totally mad that this man who used 2 treat him like shit when he was a kid dared ask him for more and he just said nothing to the guy, hung up and threw the phone thru the window and after that he was really upset 4 a moment. How the Lipstick Alley girl knew who was on the other side of the line and why he threw the phone, she doesn't say (so basically either told her but that's unlikely because it seems they weren't close, or he told someone who told her, or she made it up).

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Another one that pops up from that same thread: apparently believed that he could get his masters back the same way he could get the ones from the Paisley Park albums if he'd find a way to terminate his contract with WB, and one day in 94 he came back from a meeting with either WB or his lawyers (don't remember) and he had been explained that there was no way he could get the masters back and he was totally mad, on the verge of crying, really really upset.

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Like I said above there's no way 2 know whether this girl really was a Paisley Park employee between 89 and 94 as she claimed, nor how much of what she told was true or not, but her accounts were extremely detailed and knowing as much as I do about 's life and career I found almost everything she told 2 be extremely cohesive and believable. Making such a documented and believeable hoax would have required a huge knowledge about 's life and career AND a huge talent at lying. Only a few dates were slightly wrong, and some stories such as having a love child in UK also seem totally unlikely 2 me but most of the rest was solid stuff. But we'll never know 4 sure...

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WHOA. Are all her stories about Prince published somewhere?? That I gotta read.....