http://twitter.com/djbrai...9394749441

[Edited 5/24/14 21:38pm]

Hadn't noticed he was credited on the princevault page for the song

http://www.princevault.co...Jack_Bitch

[Edited 5/24/14 22:33pm]

I'm quite sure that's new info.

I've notices some new info (not from Per Nilsen/uptown) appearing on other songs' pages as well. It seems the Princevault team is continuing research on their own.

Interesting info, but doesn't make the song any better.

Maybe the confusion exists because Kravitz did covered a song called Billy Jack on the 1994 A Tribute To Curtis Mayfield album?

Discussed in a thread from 2012 here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/379751

and more Lenny/Prince talk here:

http://prince.org/msg/7/41795

funkomatic said:

Interesting info, but doesn't make the song any better.

Billy Jack Bitch is great,

Fantastic album, I love the whole Gold Experience..

I still think Lenny played the Clavinet on Calhoun Square.

IIRC, I read that somewhere.

Don't remember where, though, so...

funkomatic said:

Interesting info, but doesn't make the song any better.

Nah...it's a dope ass song...Use your other ears....

Just fucked up my ears listening 2 it real loud.

I think I can hear Lenny quite obviously on the "oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh" choir. The rest of the bckgrnd I'm not sure.

thx to the moderator who fixed the links. i appreciate that

Sounds like he's layered in some of Prince's multitracked vocals, and the backup. If so, it's pretty prominant but sounds harmonized the way Prince would do with his own voice.

i remember people on the old Rick james board, saying that musically BJB was rip-off of Rick James's hanging on The Top. I always thought htat both songs were rip-offs of Funkadelic's (George Clinton)

(Not Just) KNee Deep.

murph said:

funkomatic said:

Interesting info, but doesn't make the song any better.

Nah...it's a dope ass song...Use your other ears....

You mean the ones saying: "There's the word Bitch in the title, this has to be funky!"

Don't like the sample driven sound of the song. The repeated lines of the background vocals are kinda lame too.

So the only thing I consider nice is the horn arrangement at the very end.

therat said:

i remember people on the old Rick james board, saying that musically BJB was rip-off of Rick James's hanging on The Top. I always thought htat both songs were rip-offs of Funkadelic's (George Clinton)

(Not Just) KNee Deep.

U mean Standing On The Top don't u? The resemblance with it as well as Knee Deep is somewhere there but quite remote if u ask me. I'd say it wasn't intentional. I tend to think that some people's claims that some songs are being based on other songs (such as My Medallion and Spill The Wine) are sometimes really abusive even if both songs show similarities. It may be true but it may as well be accidental, we'd need the artist to tell.

On the other way how the same people who claim that MM = STW can consider P and SueAnn's renditions of Make It Though The Storm as being 2 different compositions just beats me

databank said:

"We both can play every instruments and when we jam we often exchange our role. We have recorded a lot in the 90's but nothing was officialy released. I sing on "Billy Jack Bitch" from " The Gold Experience" album, but I'm not credited.”

Lenny Kravitz

madhouseman said:

"We both can play every instruments and when we jam we often exchange our role. We have recorded a lot in the 90's but nothing was officialy released. I sing on "Billy Jack Bitch" from " The Gold Experience" album, but I'm not credited.”

Lenny Kravitz

Thx Any info on the bold part from ur research?

databank said:

madhouseman said:

"We both can play every instruments and when we jam we often exchange our role. We have recorded a lot in the 90's but nothing was officialy released. I sing on "Billy Jack Bitch" from " The Gold Experience" album, but I'm not credited.”

Lenny Kravitz

Thx Any info on the bold part from ur research?

Right now I"m not focused on that era, so nothing concrete yet.

madhouseman said:

"We both can play every instruments and when we jam we often exchange our role. We have recorded a lot in the 90's but nothing was officialy released. I sing on "Billy Jack Bitch" from " The Gold Experience" album, but I'm not credited.”

Lenny Kravitz

thx for the quote. do you know what year and where it's from?

[Edited 5/30/14 16:24pm]

What eye don't like about Lenny. He always jokes about Prince and androgyny. But when eye saw him in person. He was wearing a mini skirt & stockings...

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What eye don't like about Lenny. He always jokes about Prince and androgyny. But when eye saw him in person. He was wearing a mini skirt & stockings...

what exactly did Lenny say about Prince?

FunkyD said:

madhouseman said:

"We both can play every instruments and when we jam we often exchange our role. We have recorded a lot in the 90's but nothing was officialy released. I sing on "Billy Jack Bitch" from " The Gold Experience" album, but I'm not credited.”

Lenny Kravitz

thx for the quote. do you know what year and where it's from?

[Edited 5/30/14 16:24pm]

The quote was in Musiq magazine #15. I don't know the date unfortunately.

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

What eye don't like about Lenny. He always jokes about Prince and androgyny. But when eye saw him in person. He was wearing a mini skirt & stockings...

what exactly did Lenny say about Prince?

Yeah, what and where is the quote?

I've never heard or read one negative thing about Prince from Lenny...

I think you're making it up.

djThunderfunk said:

SoulAlive said:

what exactly did Lenny say about Prince?

Yeah, what and where is the quote?

I've never heard or read one negative thing about Prince from Lenny...

I think you're making it up.

Lenny joked & laughed with Jimmy Fallon about Prince showing up in these furry white ugg boots and was describing how Prince was dressed. But still beat him at ping pong. When Lenny himself clearly dresses flamboyantly & unisex himself. Its the pot calling the kettle black.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

djThunderfunk said:

Yeah, what and where is the quote?

I've never heard or read one negative thing about Prince from Lenny...

I think you're making it up.

Lenny joked & laughed with Jimmy Fallon about Prince showing up in these furry white ugg boots and was describing how Prince was dressed. But still beat him at ping pong. When Lenny himself clearly dresses flamboyantly & unisex himself. Its the pot calling the kettle black.

He was joking. Lighten up, he is Prince's friend after all. I mess with my friends all the time, it's fun.

For the record Billy Jack Bitch is the Jam. I would love to have some remixes though.

kewlschool said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Lenny joked & laughed with Jimmy Fallon about Prince showing up in these furry white ugg boots and was describing how Prince was dressed. But still beat him at ping pong. When Lenny himself clearly dresses flamboyantly & unisex himself. Its the pot calling the kettle black.

He was joking. Lighten up, he is Prince's friend after all. I mess with my friends all the time, it's fun.

My point is people always joke about Prince in particular about the way he dresses. When it is MANY "men" in entertainment that dress far worse and more flamboyantly including Lenny. But they omit them.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

kewlschool said:

He was joking. Lighten up, he is Prince's friend after all. I mess with my friends all the time, it's fun.

My point is people always joke about Prince in particular about the way he dresses. When it is MANY "men" in entertainment that dress far worse and more flamboyantly including Lenny. But they omit them.

You are blowing things out of proportion..

Let's stick on topic here. This is a topic about Lenny Kravitz being uncredited on "Billy Jack Bitch"..

[Edited 6/1/14 6:40am]