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Reply #30 posted 05/22/14 3:14am

murph

funksterr said:

Mindflux said:

Its a decent, considered article with the knowledge to back it up - you can't say that about 99% of the journalistic articles that have been written about Prince over the years!

So, just because he admires the man, he's not allowed to write a piece about him? Would you rather it be some hack who has only ever heard the major hits and refers to him as the "pint-sized popster"?!

And, the quote you used did nothing to further your point. Prince is widely regarded as being one of the best and most engaging live acts ever - this is not disputed anywhere. Yet you put that forward to show how this article is full of bullshit. FAIL!

I chose that passage, because it is particularly loaded and if you didn't know any better, the BS in it could slide right past your radar. I could write paragraphs of counterpoints and criticisms about that article to illustrate how full of it the writer really is, but for those with eyes to see that paragraph aone should suffice. But on this one point alone, would anyone say that Prince concerts today are equal or better than the shows from 30 years ago? He does the concerts now for the paycheck and that's it. He spends the majority of the show trying to make sure he doesn't even sing his own lyrics. The Prince of today is a JW puppet coasting off our collective memories of the time when he thought for himself. None of us go to his shows seeking out his JW inspired material. That's why he plays mashups of ANYTHING that's familiar. Is that honestly better than his shows from 1984???

I think this ^^^^ is ridiculously loaded.....Over the top is the term...

Most non FANS have commented on Prince's guitar prowess being more evolved than his '80s musical peak....Hell, critics who have no use for Prince's studio output over the last 15 years have commented how Prince has become a more varied live performer....If we are now at a point where a Prince fan can't even praise his skills as a live performer/live musician TODAY then fuck it....

It's time to checkout....

Oh yeah...That JW stuff u r dishing out? That shit is so 10 years ago....You can def. criticize the man without being so lazy and cliche....


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Reply #31 posted 06/10/14 1:47pm

BartVanHemelen

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skywalker said:

Let's consider this: - Many of Prince's "stellar" albums from the glorious 80's we're not initially received as such. AWTWIAD, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy all were released to mixed reviews by critics and a continually sagging response/sales from the masses. - Prince "needs" a "hit" album like he needs anotherloverholeinhishead.

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This is such revisionist BS. Parade was ALBUM OF THE YEAR in NME or Melody Maker. Parade and SOTT were almost instant classics and sold millions in Europe. The Lovesexy Live gig was shown live all over Europe on TV. Prince was MASSIVE back then. Hell, frikking Smash Hits reviewed The Black Album back in 1988.

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Reply #32 posted 06/10/14 1:49pm

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Militant said:

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He's in the UK at present, any chance he'd go on TV whilst he's here? Probably not. I can't remember the last time he did.

Brit Awards. Three months ago.

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Because presenting some lame ass award is exactly the same as performing on Jools Holland's Later. Gotcha.

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Reply #33 posted 06/10/14 2:02pm

thisisreece

I wish he would go on Later, it would be a great opportunity for him to showcase some 3rd Eye Girl songs. Hopefully he will around the time of the album... if such a time will come.

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Reply #34 posted 06/11/14 10:57am

funkyhead

BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:

Brit Awards. Three months ago.

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Because presenting some lame ass award is exactly the same as performing on Jools Holland's Later. Gotcha.

Jesus Bart, Later wasn't even on at that point & he timed the awards to perfection as that was the night the Manchester gigs went on sale. So please give him some props a smart ass bit of marketing!

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Reply #35 posted 06/11/14 11:01am

funkyhead

BartVanHemelen said:

skywalker said:

Let's consider this: - Many of Prince's "stellar" albums from the glorious 80's we're not initially received as such. AWTWIAD, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy all were released to mixed reviews by critics and a continually sagging response/sales from the masses. - Prince "needs" a "hit" album like he needs anotherloverholeinhishead.

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This is such revisionist BS. Parade was ALBUM OF THE YEAR in NME or Melody Maker. Parade and SOTT were almost instant classics and sold millions in Europe. The Lovesexy Live gig was shown live all over Europe on TV. Prince was MASSIVE back then. Hell, frikking Smash Hits reviewed The Black Album back in 1988.

are you sure about that?, aside from SOTT the rest did indeed get mixed reviews likewise sales were not that great & went down [i think?] year on year. No doubting his reputation was at its peak however this did not translate into mega millions in sales. They sold well but not THAT well !. wink

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Reply #36 posted 06/11/14 11:02am

funkyhead

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Anyone who pays attention to this site knows that no two Prince fans even like the same songs consistently, so such a pipe dream about recording an album that will be universally "astonishing" probably ain't gonna happen.

and that sums it all up neatly dude. Apples & oranges!

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Reply #37 posted 06/11/14 11:04am

funkyhead

thisisreece said:

I wish he would go on Later, it would be a great opportunity for him to showcase some 3rd Eye Girl songs. Hopefully he will around the time of the album... if such a time will come.

i was very surprised that he didn't do this a few weeks ago when he was over here especially as he has publicly prasied the programme [mag interview this year i think?]

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Reply #38 posted 06/11/14 11:57am

calciumpaul

For stellar status again (in the UK) he'd have to get Radio 1 on his side and I can't see that happening.

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Reply #39 posted 06/13/14 4:26pm

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