tired...over rated.....

purplethunder3121 said:

What I get from the quote is that it ain't gonna happen.

Probably for the best.


Forward and not backward is the way to go!

For me a one off performance (for charity) with the Revolution would be cool but no interest in a tour. I saw them in 86 and it was amazing/awesome and I was 16 and it blew me away. Then came the Lovesexy band and they were even better (as was the show). I like that Prince has not kept any one of his bands together (in terms of personnel) for more than a few years. Prince is a solo artist who makes use of the talent in bands for a while to help shape his sound (ie Wendy & Lisa or Michael B and Sonny T) then he moves on.

Personally I like the 3rdEyeGirl thing and think the whole "NPG" thing should be put to rest now. Not saying he shouldn't do the big band thing (as well as the power quartet thing) but get a new name for it 'cause they ain't the "New" Power Generation anymore

[Edited 5/6/14 11:48am]

babynoz said:

trax said:

AMEN!!

I knew somebody was gonna take Prince's statement from the other thread and run with it though,

Agree!

robertgeorgeakabob said:

jaypotton said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Aerogram said:

The Revolution were all talented but it's true they were more known for their precision than their respective musical chops. Together they did incredible work live and in the studio, and no Prince band ever contibuted as originally to his compositions, but you gotta agree a reunion would be more for sentimental -- rather than musical -- value.

True. But why not get with the people you call 'friends' and celebrate that music. 3rd Eye Girl weren't even conceived in their mothers wombs when that music was made. I'm not just talking about Bobby Z(with Prince since 94 East) Dr Fink, Lisa Coleman, Brown Mark, Wendy Melvoin. Get Dez Dickerson, Gaye Chapman, Andre Cymone, Eric & Atlanta Bliss.

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And have a W2 type celebration of this music. And then go on with 3rd Eye Girl. I just don't think if he does musical renditions of this music with people who had nothing to do with that time/music, that I would be interested. Especially in any remixes. I'll just buy the remasters.

Because he DONT WANT TO.

Cant that be enough?

tab32792 said:

I'm soooo sick of this. People give the Revolution more credit than they deserve. A reunion would be super cheesy. Maybe a one off or them perform a short set...but that was 30 years ago. It would look corny now. I'm glad Prince made that point. He isn't downplaying them cause they were the baddest band in the universe at one point...then he got a better one.

Amen.

Now if they came to town would I stand in line and buy a ticket. yes, but only for nostalgia and nothing else.

Sorry but any formation of the Revolution from the early days thru Parade IS in FACT the best line up prince has EVER had .. they are the ONLY band prince has EVER had that could play PRINCE music TRUE to form as it sounds on record .. prince can jam and be boring and play all his songs wrong all he wants i suppose .. its his life .. but NO other band can create prince BEST music so ACCURATELY and PASSIONATELY as did and likely does THE REVOLUTION .. honestly .. the princeless take on mountains from the reunion last year SOUNDED BETTER THAN PRINCE and prince wasn't even there .. all you 'don't look back' ers are missing the point .. when prince plays these piano medleys and sampler medleys and jazz version medleys and chants where a song used to be jams .. and jams that meld 3 songs .. its like he is only playing a 3rd of the song .. there are so many GREAT musical parts that prince just LEAVES OUT .. the songs are empty .. sure a great song like thieves in the temple sounds outstanding on just acoustic guitar .. do that please .. but when it comes to the classics there is only ONE band that gets the job done .. and that band is THE REVOLUTION .. it could have dez andre or wendy and lisa or whatever .. they nailed it .. and I am sure they could do so again with everything up thru SOTT since they worked a lot on that record .. and even hold over classics like eye no and joy in repetition .. i would love to hear the rev take on vicki wating or the future .. we can just pretend prince had no songs after and just tour the REV era for a solid 5 years .. then prince can get back to butchering his songs with whatever new band he gets that wont steal his spotlight

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye agree with this! Plus after this year they will all b too old. Eye can understand Prince not wanting to go back. Its pointless! Eye would like to see him reunite with Andre instead. They were true friends b 4 it all started..But The Revolution meh...

What do you mean that they would be "too old"?? Prince isn't exactly a spring chicken,either. he will be 56 in June

Eye said they will ALL b too old! Even though Prince has barely aged since "Purple Rain". When Prince summoned Wendy to sing "Reflection" with him on the 20th Anniversary year of PR in 04, on Tavis Smiley's Show. They did have a chemistry together like no other. But it just would look awkward to me to see them all together with Prince. It would be very cheesy & cringeworthy...

But what Eye meant is the next anniversary of PR after this. None of them besides Prince will barely be able 2 move or stand.

This is really the last year it could b done & Eye'm sorry to say 4 The Revolution fans it looks like its not going too happen. Just go c them without Prince like Eye did in 03..

[Edited 5/6/14 16:53pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

coffeebreak said:

I love the Revolution for what they were. Have no more desire to see them play together now, than I have to see how my first crush has became now... I mean, I would be curious obviously, but also prepared for a disappointment. They are all older and it would be completely pointless.

IF they could find a way to collaborate for a NEW project, maybe a once-off for example for charity (there are so many good causes that would deserve some attention, and I think he likes to be known for charity, even if he's not so blatant about it), then I'd be more interested. But the old Revolution times were just PERFECT the way they were, at least to me.

Eye agree with this! Plus after this year they will all b too old. Eye can understand Prince not wanting to go back. Its pointless! Eye would like to see him reunite with Andre instead. They were true friends b 4 it all started..But The Revolution meh...

K, I respect your opinion but my feelings are different. Everyone ages, including Prince and financially it could be beneficial for everyone. IF Prince and the band members he toured with during the PR era could get together and do something like an MTV unplugged special, don't you think that would attract an audience? Whom would it bother if they reunited with a film crew and jammed like the old days? That way they could edit the filler, and televise the magic that I'm sure would happen with these creative individuals. I agree with you about reuniting with Andre 100%. Andre was, and always will be, part of Prince's journey, so reunite with him, Dez, Lisa, Matt, & Bobby and perform some of the classics that made them a part of history. It doesn't have to sound or look exactly like it did back then, but at least give them the benefit of taking the stage together for old times sake. Nostalgic? Absolutely, but a bit of nostalgia makes Prince, imho, a more relatable human being instead of the never look back, been there done that type of person he seems to have become. He may have signed that contract as a solo artist, but he did have help along the way. Thanks for listening to my opinion. and respect.

I don't expect a reunion of The Revolution, and obviously my personal band preference doesn't matter. But I find it unnecessary to point out a so-called limitation of The Revolution in order to praise 3EG. I also find it wonky that while Prince can change and thus reasonably be "doing something else" now, the Revolution band members are held to their abilities from 30 years ago... Whatever. I'm a moron for giving any weight to these interviews.

Elle85n09 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye agree with this! Plus after this year they will all b too old. Eye can understand Prince not wanting to go back. Its pointless! Eye would like to see him reunite with Andre instead. They were true friends b 4 it all started..But The Revolution meh...

K, I respect your opinion but my feelings are different. Everyone ages, including Prince and financially it could be beneficial for everyone. IF Prince and the band members he toured with during the PR era could get together and do something like an MTV unplugged special, don't you think that would attract an audience? Whom would it bother if they reunited with a film crew and jammed like the old days? That way they could edit the filler, and televise the magic that I'm sure would happen with these creative individuals. I agree with you about reuniting with Andre 100%. Andre was, and always will be, part of Prince's journey, so reunite with him, Dez, Lisa, Matt, & Bobby and perform some of the classics that made them a part of history. It doesn't have to sound or look exactly like it did back then, but at least give them the benefit of taking the stage together for old times sake. Nostalgic? Absolutely, but a bit of nostalgia makes Prince, imho, a more relatable human being instead of the never look back, been there done that type of person he seems to have become. He may have signed that contract as a solo artist, but he did have help along the way. Thanks for listening to my opinion. and respect.

4ONEANOTHER

TrevorAyer said:

Sorry but any formation of the Revolution from the early days thru Parade IS in FACT the best line up prince has EVER had .. they are the ONLY band prince has EVER had that could play PRINCE music TRUE to form as it sounds on record .. prince can jam and be boring and play all his songs wrong all he wants i suppose .. its his life .. but NO other band can create prince BEST music so ACCURATELY and PASSIONATELY as did and likely does THE REVOLUTION .. honestly .. the princeless take on mountains from the reunion last year SOUNDED BETTER THAN PRINCE and prince wasn't even there .. all you 'don't look back' ers are missing the point .. when prince plays these piano medleys and sampler medleys and jazz version medleys and chants where a song used to be jams .. and jams that meld 3 songs .. its like he is only playing a 3rd of the song .. there are so many GREAT musical parts that prince just LEAVES OUT .. the songs are empty .. sure a great song like thieves in the temple sounds outstanding on just acoustic guitar .. do that please .. but when it comes to the classics there is only ONE band that gets the job done .. and that band is THE REVOLUTION .. it could have dez andre or wendy and lisa or whatever .. they nailed it .. and I am sure they could do so again with everything up thru SOTT since they worked a lot on that record .. and even hold over classics like eye no and joy in repetition .. i would love to hear the rev take on vicki wating or the future .. we can just pretend prince had no songs after and just tour the REV era for a solid 5 years .. then prince can get back to butchering his songs with whatever new band he gets that wont steal his spotlight

jaypotton said:

For me a one off performance (for charity) with the Revolution would be cool but no interest in a tour. I saw them in 86 and it was amazing/awesome and I was 16 and it blew me away. Then came the Lovesexy band and they were even better (as was the show). I like that Prince has not kept any one of his bands together (in terms of personnel) for more than a few years. Prince is a solo artist who makes use of the talent in bands for a while to help shape his sound (ie Wendy & Lisa or Michael B and Sonny T) then he moves on.

Personally I like the 3rdEyeGirl thing and think the whole "NPG" thing should be put to rest now. Not saying he shouldn't do the big band thing (as well as the power quartet thing) but get a new name for it 'cause they ain't the "New" Power Generation anymore

[Edited 5/6/14 11:48am]

I love that about Prince and I've been a fan since '82. When Prince is ready to move forward I am too. I wouldn't mind seeing the gang for one show but I don't really miss any of them when he decides to change direction.

babynoz said:

jaypotton said:

For me a one off performance (for charity) with the Revolution would be cool but no interest in a tour. I saw them in 86 and it was amazing/awesome and I was 16 and it blew me away. Then came the Lovesexy band and they were even better (as was the show). I like that Prince has not kept any one of his bands together (in terms of personnel) for more than a few years. Prince is a solo artist who makes use of the talent in bands for a while to help shape his sound (ie Wendy & Lisa or Michael B and Sonny T) then he moves on.

Personally I like the 3rdEyeGirl thing and think the whole "NPG" thing should be put to rest now. Not saying he shouldn't do the big band thing (as well as the power quartet thing) but get a new name for it 'cause they ain't the "New" Power Generation anymore

[Edited 5/6/14 11:48am]

I love that about Prince and I've been a fan since '82. When Prince is ready to move forward I am too. I wouldn't mind seeing the gang for one show but I don't really miss any of them when he decides to change direction.

All of Prince's bandmenbers have always been interchangeable...

TrevorAyer said:

Sorry but any formation of the Revolution from the early days thru Parade IS in FACT the best line up prince has EVER had .. they are the ONLY band prince has EVER had that could play PRINCE music TRUE to form as it sounds on record .. prince can jam and be boring and play all his songs wrong all he wants i suppose .. its his life .. but NO other band can create prince BEST music so ACCURATELY and PASSIONATELY as did and likely does THE REVOLUTION .. honestly .. the princeless take on mountains from the reunion last year SOUNDED BETTER THAN PRINCE and prince wasn't even there .. all you 'don't look back' ers are missing the point .. when prince plays these piano medleys and sampler medleys and jazz version medleys and chants where a song used to be jams .. and jams that meld 3 songs .. its like he is only playing a 3rd of the song .. there are so many GREAT musical parts that prince just LEAVES OUT .. the songs are empty .. sure a great song like thieves in the temple sounds outstanding on just acoustic guitar .. do that please .. but when it comes to the classics there is only ONE band that gets the job done .. and that band is THE REVOLUTION .. it could have dez andre or wendy and lisa or whatever .. they nailed it .. and I am sure they could do so again with everything up thru SOTT since they worked a lot on that record .. and even hold over classics like eye no and joy in repetition .. i would love to hear the rev take on vicki wating or the future .. we can just pretend prince had no songs after and just tour the REV era for a solid 5 years .. then prince can get back to butchering his songs with whatever new band he gets that wont steal his spotlight

No, they didn't. In fact very little.

Replica said:

Wendy and Lisa were more classically trained, weren't they? They had a lot of concepts, knowledge and understanding of music theory. However when it comes to heavily syncopated, rhythmic and jazzy improvisation, are they very versatile? I'm sure Prince has had personal experience being able to tell better than we are. What happens during rehearsal us something he and his band mates would know better than us.

Wendy wasn't trained at all

the 3rd eye girl band is trash compared to The Revolution... and keep the nasty replies toward Wendy & Lisa for yourselves... pretty please.

3EG is for newbies.... silly band silly music....

The band The Revolution were behind PR, ATWIAD, and Parade.... classic Prince,

It just can't get better than that.... imho.

He's all talk but where's the damn album

thedance said:

the 3rd eye girl band is trash compared to The Revolution... and keep the nasty replies toward Wendy & Lisa for yourselves... pretty please.

3EG is for newbies.... silly band silly music....

The band The Revolution were behind PR, ATWIAD, and Parade.... classic Prince,

It just can't get better than that.... imho.

I agree

SoulAlive said:

thedance said:

the 3rd eye girl band is trash compared to The Revolution... and keep the nasty replies toward Wendy & Lisa for yourselves... pretty please.

3EG is for newbies.... silly band silly music....

The band The Revolution were behind PR, ATWIAD, and Parade.... classic Prince,

It just can't get better than that.... imho.

I agree

The Revolution was and are still probably better composers and song writers by a long run. However as technical players even though Donna Grantis is very annoying sometimes, she is probably a hell of alot better technically than Wendy. Ida is one with the pocket, and is more than good enough for it's purpose. Hannah can sometimes be a bit out there, and off time. I'm pretty sure Prince is not wrong for his statement when it comes to jamming. I don't really think The Revolution could play as loose as this http://vimeo.com/61739791 and this is a year ago? What is wrong with Prince statement? He sounded perfectly correct to me from what I've heard. It's a difference between being able to go different ways in a loose jam live, than to write killer pop classics. The Revolution was good at writing, composing and creating a cool atmosphere. However being loose with it, 3rd eye girls is more suitable for it. They're not as stiff. And this is coming from one that loves The Revolution to death when it comes to the actualy releases. My favourite studio band was the revolution. My favourite live band was probably pre revolution and the lovesexy/sign of the times band.

thedance said:

the 3rd eye girl band is trash compared to The Revolution... and keep the nasty replies toward Wendy & Lisa for yourselves... pretty please.

3EG is for newbies.... silly band silly music....

The band The Revolution were behind PR, ATWIAD, and Parade.... classic Prince,

It just can't get better than that.... imho.

bollocks

Replica said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree

The Revolution was and are still probably better composers and song writers by a long run. However as technical players even though Donna Grantis is very annoying sometimes, she is probably a hell of alot better technically than Wendy. Ida is one with the pocket, and is more than good enough for it's purpose. Hannah can sometimes be a bit out there, and off time. I'm pretty sure Prince is not wrong for his statement when it comes to jamming. I don't really think The Revolution could play as loose as this http://vimeo.com/61739791 and this is a year ago? What is wrong with Prince statement? He sounded perfectly correct to me from what I've heard. It's a difference between being able to go different ways in a loose jam live, than to write killer pop classics. The Revolution was good at writing, composing and creating a cool atmosphere. However being loose with it, 3rd eye girls is more suitable for it. They're not as stiff. And this is coming from one that loves The Revolution to death when it comes to the actualy releases. My favourite studio band was the revolution. My favourite live band was probably pre revolution and the lovesexy/sign of the times band.

U may be judging Wendy from 1986 vs Donna from 2014

Prince is doing the same thing in a way. If people judge someone's playing only from when they were 21ish vs someone who is maybe 45. It's not a fare comparison. the Revolution members have gotten way better. Donna may be a stronger 'electric' guitarist...maybe, but Wendy is a much stronger rhythm guitarist.

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Remember Prince designed the shows to go the way they did. Prince wanted his songs played out they way they were because he wanted his sound(just like on the albums) to be noticed. Jamming out didn't make sense then. the 1984 Revolution is the same band that was jamming Dirty Mind/Controversy/1999 minus Wendy Melvoin. And I've heard way too many show where they band definately jammed out improvisions. They tended to follow Prince on guitar and if he wanted to rock out they followed. Dez also kicked out a lot of guitar solos. But over all Prince was keen on performing his sound. He didn't do a bunch of covers and not big on a bunch of spotlighting solos unless it was in connection to the (recorded) song.

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When u listen to the SOTT/Lovesexy concerts, it's the same way. Prince had more of a direction/vision for his concerts and promoting the new album with other songs that complimented them. Now Prince does a lot of 'improvision' and soloing because he just playing songs. He does really promote his albums, and the shows have no real direction other than making money and playing the hits...