SchlomoThaHomo said:

NouveauDance said:

I doubt anything already released before the new WB deal will be on the album. The Breakdown is a strong possibility and I guess Fall In Love Tonight maybe? I'm not sure on the distribution credits etc on that one since it was poop and didn't pay attention. :p

It's already confirmed that The Breakdown and Breakfast Can Wait are on it, and possibly U Will B (With Me). I wouldn't be surprised if Rock & Roll Love Affair is on it. FALLINLOVE2NITE and Screwdriver wouldn't shock me either. Now how would all of these songs with different styles sound together on the same album? That's another question.

I don't think there's gona be any rock on this album so I doubt "Screwdriver", and "RNRLA" gona end up on it. Not sure about "Fallinlove2nite"..

[Edited 4/25/14 7:50am]

bigd74 said:

So does anyone think that we'll still get Plectrumelectrum? I hope so

Eventually you will get PE.

It just might take longer if mr P doesn't do the job.

MIRvmn said:

jaypotton said:

Hmmm well if Lenny Kravitz can release his next album on Kobalt Label Services then why can't Prince & 3rdEyeGirl?

My theory is that all the time they have been developing Plectrumelectrum (during 2013) in the background there has been the ongoing negotiations with Warner Bros (and it was resolution of those negotiations that were of greatest importance to Prince - and the most lucrative).

So Plec... is a victim of the WB deal and Kobalt are likely thinking "huh"

Saying that I still think Plec... will come out at some point.

Even though Im very happy with a new Prince album I was abit suprised that he no longer was interested in PE once the deal with WB was in place. It's like he had a solo Prince album ready 2 go during all this time there was negotiations, and yes PE is clearly a victim of the WB deal.

Releasing "PlectrumElectrum" first would have been a conflict of interest, Prince knowing that his secret wb negotiations deal would happen soon. Plus having a brand new album ready(not unusual for Prince!). That is the reason why PE hasn't been released yet. It would have sabotaged his new MEGA wb deal.....

Prince has turned into a very wise & smart business man...

I bet Plectrum Electrum will be realed with Kobalt or Epic without, the name Prince. I bet it's released as 3rd Eye Girl only. I bet that's why he spent so much time with 3rd eye, releasing songs and stuff so people will know 3EG is with him.

therat said:

I bet Plectrum Electrum will be realed with Kobalt or Epic without, the name Prince. I bet it's released as 3rd Eye Girl only. I bet that's why he spent so much time with 3rd eye, releasing songs and stuff so people will know 3EG is with him.

Could be. It appears his face isn't on the cover, only the inner artwork.

Not stating that it's Prince album will hinder sales, surely? Releasing the album at the time of 3EG london gigs would have made a whole lot sense.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MIRvmn said:

Even though Im very happy with a new Prince album I was abit suprised that he no longer was interested in PE once the deal with WB was in place. It's like he had a solo Prince album ready 2 go during all this time there was negotiations, and yes PE is clearly a victim of the WB deal.

Releasing "PlectrumElectrum" first would have been a conflict of interest, Prince knowing that his secret wb negotiations deal would happen soon. Plus having a brand new album ready(not unusual for Prince!). That is the reason why PE hasn't been released yet. It would have sabotaged his new MEGA wb deal.....

Prince has turned into a very wise & smart business man...

You're probably right - the less than stellar sales of Plectrum... might have caused WB to either rethink the entire deal or certainy offer less money!!!!

funkaholic1972 said:

ConsciousContact said:

"It's the Prince everyone has been waiting for".

I've heard variations of that too many times over the years and been disappointed, to get excited about that comment.

We hear that blurb every new album that gets released. Only TRC sort of deliverd on that promise since 1995.

I can assure you I have *never* waited for a Prince album like TRC. Ugh.

Wow y'all sure seem ready to drive the nails

into the PE coffin. Hate to see that happen

but Prince has left a trail of abandoned projects

in his wake. If he decides not to release it I would

hope he pulls the best tracks off it and puts

them on his own album.

IstenSzek said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

It's already confirmed that The Breakdown and Breakfast Can Wait are on it, and possibly U Will B (With Me). I wouldn't be surprised if Rock & Roll Love Affair is on it. FALLINLOVE2NITE and Screwdriver wouldn't shock me either. Now how would all of these songs with different styles sound together on the same album? That's another question.

if she heard the album three times, in full, i doubt that "U Will B" is on there

since she would have remembered. the title of the song is repeated like 75

times during the song. i wouldn't mind that song being on it though, since it

has such a lovely melody.

/

as far as these tracks going together, i made the following compilation last

year and it sounds kind of good.

/

01. Screwdriver

02. Rock N Roll Love Affair

03. Same Page, Different Book

04. Breakfast Can Wait

05. Extraloveable Reloaded

06. Boyfriend

07. FallinLove2Nite

08. Groovy Potential

09. Ain't Gonna Miss U When Ur Gone

10. De Bourgeoisie

11. That Girl Thang

/

they flow rather well together. although i don't think FallInLove2Nite fist all

that well, but I stuck it on there since it seemed to be another one off and

it wouldn't have anywhere else to go really. preferably i would take the two

last songs off it since i don't like them, really. and replace them with two

more rock tracks, so the balance between rock and funk would be better.

however, i do hate FULU and PBL so those are a no go for me

/

one thing about these tracks perhaps not being included is that they mostly

feature the NPG horns, which Nik West said weren't on the album. so there

is that.

/

there's song i wouldn't mind being on the 'new' album, like Breakfast, which

i rather like or RNR, but the thing is, we've known them for too long now

and i'm sure many of us have gotten used to them in different make ups,

much like my own tracklist above.

/

so i'm hoping that Nik West knows all the above songs and is right when

she says that only Breakfast and Breakdown are on the album, but just

like always, information is sketchy and nothing can be said for certain up

to the release.

Sooo, this is where my mind went when I read that...

lezama said:

Vannormal said:

And Plectrum Electrum will suffer in sales from the highlight of the new remasters of PR and new Prince album... Maybe also the other way around.

When people say PE will suffer in sales? Are people really that cash strapped that they will buy a remaster and say and say "oh crap I dont have an extra ten bucks for PE"? Maybe his teenage girl audience, but most of his fan base are adults now. Im not sure Im convinced that there's not simultaneous room for everything.

Well, yeah. Most people are willing to spend only a very limited amount of money on CDs, DVDs, books etc. these days. Even if they wouldn't be completely broke they can't justify the purchases when there's so much free stuff around as well.

BobGeorge909 said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

BobGeorge909 said:

filthyrichyuppie said:

BobGeorge909 said:

fnksoul said:

Andy Allo has vocals on "The Breakdown" so i doubt shes been Banished

[Edited 4/24/14 11:39am]

Imma 'bout to banish her I'd if see that goddamed 'Sydney' in that goddamned bank/credit card commercial again...

She hasn't been banished. I heard she was mincing around the recent LA gigs, making sure everyone could see her.

I know she's not 'banished'. I was just statimg my disdain for that fommercial...which I shall finish with her final banishment, from my world at least...as much as I can manage it...cuz I just saw that fuckin commercial again.
When it started like 3 months ago or so...I thought it was gonna be a short affair....but nooooo... This things STILL fucking going strong and DONT seem to be going anywhere.


Makes me wanna sneek up behinder with a set of hairclippers... Jackass style...and "CHOMP!". ....take a chunk out.

.



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Then RUUUUUN like Ben Johnson on TWICE the juice...cuz that stistah got some not-so-groin-friendly pointy boots.
[Edited 4/25/14 14:58pm]

SchlomoThaHomo said:

It's already confirmed that The Breakdown and Breakfast Can Wait are on it, and possibly U Will B (With Me). I wouldn't be surprised if Rock & Roll Love Affair is on it. FALLINLOVE2NITE and Screwdriver wouldn't shock me either.

How awful.

novabrkr said:

lezama said:

When people say PE will suffer in sales? Are people really that cash strapped that they will buy a remaster and say and say "oh crap I dont have an extra ten bucks for PE"? Maybe his teenage girl audience, but most of his fan base are adults now. Im not sure Im convinced that there's not simultaneous room for everything.

Well, yeah. Most people are willing to spend only a very limited amount of money on CDs, DVDs, books etc. these days. Even if they wouldn't be completely broke they can't justify the purchases when there's so much free stuff around as well.

.

Not even that. Who'd spend money on yet another rubbish P album when they can listen over and over again to an improved version of a classic they love?

BartVanHemelen said:

BartVanHemelen said:

novabrkr said:

Well, yeah. Most people are willing to spend only a very limited amount of money on CDs, DVDs, books etc. these days. Even if they wouldn't be completely broke they can't justify the purchases when there's so much free stuff around as well.

.

Not even that. Who'd spend money on yet another rubbish P album when they can listen over and over again to an improved version of a classic they love?

Me

everyone STFU...let him release all 3..without all this negative talk

lezama said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Not even that. Who'd spend money on yet another rubbish P album when they can listen over and over again to an improved version of a classic they love?

Me

<3

lezama said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Not even that. Who'd spend money on yet another rubbish P album when they can listen over and over again to an improved version of a classic they love?

Me

Me too. And Bart, listening to the same classics over and over is bad for you, so is living in the past. You've been just as blindly critidcal as some fans have been blindly positive. If there's a renewed appreciation for his old catalog, you can be sure that the post Warner years will be reassessed. It won't be a blanket redemption but for sure some songs from that period need to be rediscovered at some point, as RS recently said.

novabrkr said:

lezama said:

When people say PE will suffer in sales? Are people really that cash strapped that they will buy a remaster and say and say "oh crap I dont have an extra ten bucks for PE"? Maybe his teenage girl audience, but most of his fan base are adults now. Im not sure Im convinced that there's not simultaneous room for everything.

Well, yeah. Most people are willing to spend only a very limited amount of money on CDs, DVDs, books etc. these days. Even if they wouldn't be completely broke they can't justify the purchases when there's so much free stuff around as well.

Exactly people have to pay for electricity, internet service etc. How else will they make it known that a 10 dollar CD sent their family budget straight to hell!

Aerogram said:

lezama said:

Me

Me too. And Bart, listening to the same classics over and over is bad for you, so is living in the past. You've been just as blindly critidcal as some fans have been blindly positive. If there's a renewed appreciation for his old catalog, you can be sure that the post Warner years will be reassessed. It won't be a blanket redemption but for sure some songs from that period need to be rediscovered at some point, as RS recently said.

.

Sigh... Gotta love how famz never see beyond their own situation. So what if you who are obsessed with P will buy all three releases? The question is WILL THE PUBLIC? And we know the answer.

.

And his post-WB back catalogue will not be reassessed because it simply IS NOT AVAILABLE. And the reason for that is because NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. And yes, that includes Prince. Note how NONE of P's maginifcent business of the past 15+ years have cared about keeping his older, independently released music available. Hell, NPGMC made a point of rehashing WB tracks like "Horny Pony" and live recordings from the WB era, for the simple reason that these are what we care about. Note how NPGMC was launched by giving away free music that dated back to... 1985.

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

Me too. And Bart, listening to the same classics over and over is bad for you, so is living in the past. You've been just as blindly critidcal as some fans have been blindly positive. If there's a renewed appreciation for his old catalog, you can be sure that the post Warner years will be reassessed. It won't be a blanket redemption but for sure some songs from that period need to be rediscovered at some point, as RS recently said.

.

Sigh... Gotta love how famz never see beyond their own situation. So what if you who are obsessed with P will buy all three releases? The question is WILL THE PUBLIC? And we know the answer.

.

And his post-WB back catalogue will not be reassessed because it simply IS NOT AVAILABLE. And the reason for that is because NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. And yes, that includes Prince. Note how NONE of P's maginifcent business of the past 15+ years have cared about keeping his older, independently released music available. Hell, NPGMC made a point of rehashing WB tracks like "Horny Pony" and live recordings from the WB era, for the simple reason that these are what we care about. Note how NPGMC was launched by giving away free music that dated back to... 1985.

Sorry Bart, you can't tell if that catalog will be reasessed because 1) you don't know if it he won't make what's not available now available again; 2) the fact these projects went largely unnoticed does not mean they don't have the potential to be assessed differently later, some artists have enjoyed such reassessments of their later work; 3) more importantly, you can say whatever you want about the past or the present, but your alk-knowingness doesn't extend to the future.

I don't think it would be wise to have three releases but since we have no say in the matter, why take these silly discussions so seriously like Prince is peering over the Org looking for clues on what to do?

Also, this may surprise you Bart, but between you and I, you win hands down at seeking Prince material old and new, whether you pay a cent or not. The affirmation that NPGMC put tracks like Horny Pony up because that's what "we" cared about is patently false -- NPGMC subscribers were there for the new music and perhaps a few morsels of his old stuff plus any live music, putting up Horny Pony in subpar quality doesn't look like a move to ardently leverage old songs -- don't you think he'd done it way more if your theory held any water?

I have an article to finish so we'll continue our 15 year old disagreement some other time.

Actually it will be interesting (for some of us at least, maybe not you Bart) to see whether anything does happen with the post WB albums Prince put out. All of them were through one-off P&D deals with various labels (majors like Universal, EMI, Arista, Columbia) and minors/independents. But these labels only handled P&D with Prince licensing them the use of the Master each time. For that reason Prince could (if there was interest) reissue those albums again with a different label - such as WB...hmmm


Not saying this will happen just that this COULD happen (maybe as part of a, very expensive, complete collection boxset).