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Thread started 04/21/14 3:52am

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Purple Rain Film Score?

Did prince do the whole score for the film or was it someone else? It sounds like prince to me but I'd like to know for sure haha. Either way it's a great score in my opinion.

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Reply #1 posted 04/21/14 3:56am

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purplemajesty23 said:

Did prince do the whole score for the film or was it someone else? It sounds like prince to me but I'd like to know for sure haha. Either way it's a great score in my opinion.

It's the great Michel Colombier.

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Reply #2 posted 04/21/14 4:04am

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Kinda bummed that Prince didn't do it but DAMN is it a good score. What other films did this guy do the scores for?

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Reply #3 posted 04/21/14 4:16am

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purplemajesty23 said:

Kinda bummed that Prince didn't do it but DAMN is it a good score. What other films did this guy do the scores for?


Well, mostly French movies, of course wink Including the soft porn classic Emmanuelle. (So why he and Prince never worked together again, beats me...)

He also did the Largo Winch tv-series (based on the comic book) and The Golden Child (with Eddie Murphy).

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Reply #4 posted 04/21/14 5:20am

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Pentacle said:

purplemajesty23 said:

Kinda bummed that Prince didn't do it but DAMN is it a good score. What other films did this guy do the scores for?


Well, mostly French movies, of course wink Including the soft porn classic Emmanuelle. (So why he and Prince never worked together again, beats me...)

He also did the Largo Winch tv-series (based on the comic book) and The Golden Child (with Eddie Murphy).

Before he passed away he would send fans copies of the actual score.

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Reply #5 posted 04/21/14 5:44am

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laurarichardson said:

Pentacle said:


Well, mostly French movies, of course wink Including the soft porn classic Emmanuelle. (So why he and Prince never worked together again, beats me...)

He also did the Largo Winch tv-series (based on the comic book) and The Golden Child (with Eddie Murphy).

Before he passed away he would send fans copies of the actual score.

Interesting. I assume that one of those copies must have been bootlegged and sold, right?

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Reply #6 posted 04/21/14 9:16am

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Interesting. I assume that one of those copies must have been bootlegged and sold, right?



nod There is a bootleg floating around
My copy doent sound so great, but think there was an updated copy i missed

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Reply #7 posted 04/21/14 9:47am

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purplemajesty23 said:

Kinda bummed that Prince didn't do it but DAMN is it a good score. What other films did this guy do the scores for?

I watched "Ruthless People" for the first time over the weekend and I noticed that he did the score for that movie as well.

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Reply #8 posted 04/21/14 10:25am

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Pentacle said:

purplemajesty23 said:

Did prince do the whole score for the film or was it someone else? It sounds like prince to me but I'd like to know for sure haha. Either way it's a great score in my opinion.

It's the great Michel Colombier.

I remember some scenes having heavy precussion and thinking it was Shiela E as a contributing musician on the score? Strangely, i never really took part in a discussion about that. Is she uncredited it certain parts of the movie score? Anyone?

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Reply #9 posted 04/21/14 12:17pm

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I was surprised it wasn't Prince--certainly parts of it sound like they could be. Under the Cherry Moon's score is Prince, right?

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Reply #10 posted 04/21/14 12:27pm

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EddieC said:

I was surprised it wasn't Prince--certainly parts of it sound like they could be. Under the Cherry Moon's score is Prince, right?

Well, God is by Prince, and given that it's not performed in the film but the incidental music for the love scene I guess that counts, although you probably knew that.

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Reply #11 posted 04/21/14 1:04pm

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

EddieC said:

I was surprised it wasn't Prince--certainly parts of it sound like they could be. Under the Cherry Moon's score is Prince, right?

Well, God is by Prince, and given that it's not performed in the film but the incidental music for the love scene I guess that counts, although you probably knew that.

True. But all the dramatic percussion and keyboard hits scattered throughout the film feels like him to me, too.

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Reply #12 posted 04/21/14 1:11pm

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EddieC said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Well, God is by Prince, and given that it's not performed in the film but the incidental music for the love scene I guess that counts, although you probably knew that.

True. But all the dramatic percussion and keyboard hits scattered throughout the film feels like him to me, too.

I'm sure it was intended to blend in with the story and other music.

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jtfolden said:

EddieC said:

True. But all the dramatic percussion and keyboard hits scattered throughout the film feels like him to me, too.

I'm sure it was intended to blend in with the story and other music.

Maybe Colombier was given the soundtrack and asked to come up with music in keeping with Prince's style on the album. This is obviously just pure conjecture on my part, has he spoken publicly about the composing process before?

As for UTCM, I can't find any source saying directly that Prince came up with the instrumental music, but the only composer listed on Wikipedia (great detective skills I know) is Prince and the Revolution, and in previous threads I've seen the cover of a bootleg containing the instrumental music which has "Prince and the Revolution" on it, so that suggests it was him. Pretty weak sources I know, can anybody shed more light on this?

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Reply #14 posted 04/21/14 3:31pm

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

jtfolden said:

I'm sure it was intended to blend in with the story and other music.

Maybe Colombier was given the soundtrack and asked to come up with music in keeping with Prince's style on the album. This is obviously just pure conjecture on my part, has he spoken publicly about the composing process before?

As for UTCM, I can't find any source saying directly that Prince came up with the instrumental music, but the only composer listed on Wikipedia (great detective skills I know) is Prince and the Revolution, and in previous threads I've seen the cover of a bootleg containing the instrumental music which has "Prince and the Revolution" on it, so that suggests it was him. Pretty weak sources I know, can anybody shed more light on this?

I think I've seen a copyright claim to "incidental music" to Under the Cherry Moon in the Library of Congress sites listings.

As to Colombier, I don't know his other work, but I think the stuff in Purple Rain fits really well, and feels like Prince. I know it isn't Prince, but I don't know if it's a matter of their styles naturally meshing or a good job of Colombier fitting his work to the task. Probably the latter--a professional film composer has to be pretty versatile.

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Reply #15 posted 04/21/14 3:37pm

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Maybe Colombier was given the soundtrack and asked to come up with music in keeping with Prince's style on the album. This is obviously just pure conjecture on my part, has he spoken publicly about the composing process before?

As for UTCM, I can't find any source saying directly that Prince came up with the instrumental music, but the only composer listed on Wikipedia (great detective skills I know) is Prince and the Revolution, and in previous threads I've seen the cover of a bootleg containing the instrumental music which has "Prince and the Revolution" on it, so that suggests it was him. Pretty weak sources I know, can anybody shed more light on this?

I think I've seen a copyright claim to "incidental music" to Under the Cherry Moon in the Library of Congress sites listings.

As to Colombier, I don't know his other work, but I think the stuff in Purple Rain fits really well, and feels like Prince. I know it isn't Prince, but I don't know if it's a matter of their styles naturally meshing or a good job of Colombier fitting his work to the task. Probably the latter--a professional film composer has to be pretty versatile.

I just looked and found something for "Background music" with "Prince, Clare Fisher, Eric Leeds, et al." And I know there's a reference in Matt Thorne's book to his working on "incidental music," but I'm not sure which music it's referring to, or how much.

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Reply #16 posted 04/22/14 7:55pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Pentacle said:

It's the great Michel Colombier.

I remember some scenes having heavy precussion and thinking it was Shiela E as a contributing musician on the score? Strangely, i never really took part in a discussion about that. Is she uncredited it certain parts of the movie score? Anyone?

I always used to think this too. I remember reading once that Sheila started hanging around Prince during Purple Rain and wondered if she worked on it (and they did Erotic City as the B-side to LGC so...)

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Reply #17 posted 04/22/14 11:25pm

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Michel Colombier's album Dreams contains "Purple Rain (Love Theme)". Good luck finding a copy though.

Dreams - cover art

http://rateyourmusic.com/...er/dreams/

I have this album, but I can't remember that particular track. I only bought it for Colombier and Pierre Henry's amazing Psyché Rock.

[Edited 4/23/14 8:22am]

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Reply #18 posted 04/22/14 11:54pm

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EddieC said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Maybe Colombier was given the soundtrack and asked to come up with music in keeping with Prince's style on the album. This is obviously just pure conjecture on my part, has he spoken publicly about the composing process before?

As for UTCM, I can't find any source saying directly that Prince came up with the instrumental music, but the only composer listed on Wikipedia (great detective skills I know) is Prince and the Revolution, and in previous threads I've seen the cover of a bootleg containing the instrumental music which has "Prince and the Revolution" on it, so that suggests it was him. Pretty weak sources I know, can anybody shed more light on this?

I think I've seen a copyright claim to "incidental music" to Under the Cherry Moon in the Library of Congress sites listings.

As to Colombier, I don't know his other work, but I think the stuff in Purple Rain fits really well, and feels like Prince. I know it isn't Prince, but I don't know if it's a matter of their styles naturally meshing or a good job of Colombier fitting his work to the task. Probably the latter--a professional film composer has to be pretty versatile.

There is no ambiguity about UTCM: Prince did absolutely all the music on that one.

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Reply #19 posted 04/23/14 12:08am

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databank said:



There is no ambiguity about UTCM: Prince did absolutely all the music on that one.



Uh, you forgot Clare Fischer.
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Reply #20 posted 04/23/14 12:20am

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fbueller said:

databank said:

There is no ambiguity about UTCM: Prince did absolutely all the music on that one.

Uh, you forgot Clare Fischer.


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Reply #21 posted 04/23/14 12:27am

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FragileUndertow said:

fbueller said:

databank said: Uh, you forgot Clare Fischer.


yeahthat

His score was composed over P's music and the isolated orchestral parts in the movie were taken from outtakes of the work he'd done on the songs , so now u can say I forgot Wendy & Lisa & Eric and the rest of the band too, but technically Prince did the soundtrack, it's not like Clare Fischer composed a score especially for the film wink

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Reply #22 posted 04/23/14 12:40am

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Produced, Composed, Arranged & Performed by Prince & the Revolution
Orchestra composed & arranged by Clare Fischer

Special thanks 2 Clare Fischer 4 making brighter the colors Black & White
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Reply #23 posted 04/23/14 12:40am

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FragileUndertow said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Interesting. I assume that one of those copies must have been bootlegged and sold, right?



nod There is a bootleg floating around
My copy doent sound so great, but think there was an updated copy i missed

Severe Storms?

That appears to be this one : http://prince.org/msg/7/341443

[Edited 4/23/14 0:50am]

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Reply #24 posted 04/23/14 1:13am

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udo said:

Severe Storms?

That appears to be this one : http://prince.org/msg/7/341443


No its from this
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/P%20mag%20and%20boot%20covers%20and%20ads/CoverFront-1.jpg

Copied from another thread.

Purple Rain Film Score (41:44) This is the instrumental background music that was featured in the Purple Rain film, which was composed by Michel Colombier. Some of this music was discarded and not used in the movie. Prince was probably not involved in the recording of this music. The titles of the songs included in the score are listed below in the same order they are in the Library of Congress copyright listing (which is not the same order they are included in the actual recording).


Purple Intro
I Like Your Song Too
Family Dispute
First Avenue
The Bitches Are Okay
I.D.S. Center
Lake Minnetonka
Puppets
A Little Song And Dance
Thinking About Buying A Guitar
Argument
Join Morris' Group
Let's Go Baby, Parts I, II, and III
Alley
Underpass
Home Again
Light Switch
Suicide
Sheet Music
Memories
Back-Stage


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Reply #25 posted 04/23/14 1:35am

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Well damn, I must have lost my copy of this, cuz i dont see it confused I possibly deleted it lol
It's iteresting to hear once. A couple tracks were cool, but it wasnt anything too special
It was only cerculating in mp3 format. Sound quality was really low, a lot of hiss

There were voice over production notes *Example* : "scene one, take 2"

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Reply #26 posted 04/23/14 10:19am

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databank said:

EddieC said:

I think I've seen a copyright claim to "incidental music" to Under the Cherry Moon in the Library of Congress sites listings.

As to Colombier, I don't know his other work, but I think the stuff in Purple Rain fits really well, and feels like Prince. I know it isn't Prince, but I don't know if it's a matter of their styles naturally meshing or a good job of Colombier fitting his work to the task. Probably the latter--a professional film composer has to be pretty versatile.

There is no ambiguity about UTCM: Prince did absolutely all the music on that one.

I thought so--but I wasn't sure.

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Reply #27 posted 04/23/14 11:39am

Pentacle

EddieC said:

databank said:

There is no ambiguity about UTCM: Prince did absolutely all the music on that one.

I thought so--but I wasn't sure.

Per Nilsen, page 188: he would score the movie as he was watching it on a soundstage, so apparently 'live'.

I have Colombier's Dreams too, it was pretty easy to get, and there are some wonderful tracks on it. Purple Rain is a highlight.

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Reply #28 posted 04/23/14 12:09pm

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FragileUndertow said:

udo said:

Severe Storms?

That appears to be this one : http://prince.org/msg/7/341443


No its from this
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/P%20mag%20and%20boot%20covers%20and%20ads/CoverFront-1.jpg

Copied from another thread.

Purple Rain Film Score (41:44) This is the instrumental background music that was featured in the Purple Rain film, which was composed by Michel Colombier. Some of this music was discarded and not used in the movie. Prince was probably not involved in the recording of this music. The titles of the songs included in the score are listed below in the same order they are in the Library of Congress copyright listing (which is not the same order they are included in the actual recording).


Purple Intro
I Like Your Song Too
Family Dispute
First Avenue
The Bitches Are Okay
I.D.S. Center
Lake Minnetonka
Puppets
A Little Song And Dance
Thinking About Buying A Guitar
Argument
Join Morris' Group
Let's Go Baby, Parts I, II, and III
Alley
Underpass
Home Again
Light Switch
Suicide
Sheet Music
Memories
Back-Stage


Wow, I need this!

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Reply #29 posted 04/23/14 12:20pm

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Pentacle said:

FragileUndertow said:


No its from this
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Prince%20and%20related/P%20mag%20and%20boot%20covers%20and%20ads/CoverFront-1.jpg

Copied from another thread.

Purple Rain Film Score (41:44) This is the instrumental background music that was featured in the Purple Rain film, which was composed by Michel Colombier. Some of this music was discarded and not used in the movie. Prince was probably not involved in the recording of this music. The titles of the songs included in the score are listed below in the same order they are in the Library of Congress copyright listing (which is not the same order they are included in the actual recording).


Purple Intro
I Like Your Song Too
Family Dispute
First Avenue
The Bitches Are Okay
I.D.S. Center
Lake Minnetonka
Puppets
A Little Song And Dance
Thinking About Buying A Guitar
Argument
Join Morris' Group
Let's Go Baby, Parts I, II, and III
Alley
Underpass
Home Again
Light Switch
Suicide
Sheet Music
Memories
Back-Stage


Wow, I need this!

Wow, dude worked on a Jacques Demi film, one of my favourite directors! I should definitely find out more about him, never would I have imagined there was anything linking Purple Rain and Les demoiselles de Rochefort together (two of my favourite things ever!)

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