Well I don't think it would be a hit but I do like it better than The Breakdown. Neither one is hit material though to me. With all the excitement and publicity of Prince going back to WB he should have released a JAM!! A ballad is just such a downer. What the world needed was not another slow song. Actually I think Pretzelbodylogic is the most commercial of any of his recent releases. While the org has bashed it I have sampled this as well as all of his recent singles and it seems like everyone likes PBL outside of the org community. Granted, only sampled about 50 people or so it is a small sample. I would say its about 90% positive. Of the same people 70-80% positive on FYLU, 80-90% positive on screwdriver, 25% positive on Breakdown and 40-50% positive on BCW(with everyone liking the Chappele cover).

Not in a just world.

trax said:

Pentacle said:

Look, all that matters are two points:

1. Do you like the song?
2. Do you have the song?

If the answers to both are "Yes", then it doesn't matter if the song is #1 or #1,000.

2013MW said:

Sorry if this is not a catching topic

Not even God himself could have manufactured a number 1 hit out of that pile of turd.

Rebeljuice said:

No. No way. If it was the first single from Diamonds And Pearls it might have hit number 30 or so. Remember Sexy MF and Gett Off where tiny minor hits...back when radio played Prince. Now if Prince gets any airplay it is for a hot second, and then the song is gone. Fallinlove2nite got maybe two weeks of airplay in select cities...and now I haven't heard it, and Fall is better than Breakfast, or at least is more chart friendly if not better. And these days? A #1 hit from somebody pushing 60? No way possible. The charts are filled with Under 30 artists. Pharrell got mad lucky to get Happy played..and he's almost 20 years younger.

It really couldn't, and neither could the Breakdown. You only have to see what casual/non-fans say when he puts these kinds of tracks out, they couldn't give two shits it's just more of the same mid-tempo sludge he's been churning out for the past 15+ years. And there have been great songs and single worthy songs and potential hits, but they either weren't singles or they haven't been promoted so as to reach an audience that would be interested.

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He does a string a rock-orientated shows in the UK that go down a storm - the media lapped it up, the audiences loved, he releases..... a cheesy dance track and a sappy ballad. Great marketing. People think "yeah great live, but still in a studio quagmire" and move on - general audience aren't affraid of his live shows any more, but the albums are still pariah. Purple Rain remaster will be welcomed with open arms, him chucking out a 3rd Eye Girl album and one of his own (if these both actually happen) will just be seen as more of the same studio diarrhea that he has become known for.

[Edited 4/22/14 9:04am]

NouveauDance said:

It really couldn't, and neither could the Breakdown. You only have to see what casual/non-fans say when he puts these kinds of tracks out, they couldn't give two shits it's just more of the same mid-tempo sludge he's been churning out for the past 15+ years. And there have been great songs and single worthy songs and potential hits, but they either weren't singles or they haven't been promoted so as to reach an audience that would be interested.

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He does a string a rock-orientated shows in the UK that go down a storm - the media lapped it up, the audiences loved, he releases..... a cheesy dance track and a sappy ballad. Great marketing. People think "yeah great live, but still in a studio quagmire" and move on - general audience aren't affraid of his live shows any more, but the albums are still pariah. Purple Rain remaster will be welcomed with open arms, him chucking out a 3rd Eye Girl album and one of his own (if these both actually happen) will just be seen as more of the same studio diarrhea that he has become known for.

That's the state of the world today, indeed.

RodeoSchro said:

Look, all that matters are two points:

1. Do you like the song?
2. Do you have the song?

If the answers to both are "Yes", then it doesn't matter if the song is #1 or #1,000.

It matters to Prince, I imagine. He's always banging on about airplay and the like.

Ultimately, though, Prince and his fans just have to get used to the fact that the hit days are over. It is what it is. Prince is associated with another era, not this one.

NouveauDance said:

It really couldn't, and neither could the Breakdown. You only have to see what casual/non-fans say when he puts these kinds of tracks out, they couldn't give two shits it's just more of the same mid-tempo sludge he's been churning out for the past 15+ years. And there have been great songs and single worthy songs and potential hits, but they either weren't singles or they haven't been promoted so as to reach an audience that would be interested.

.

He does a string a rock-orientated shows in the UK that go down a storm - the media lapped it up, the audiences loved, he releases..... a cheesy dance track and a sappy ballad. Great marketing. People think "yeah great live, but still in a studio quagmire" and move on - general audience aren't affraid of his live shows any more, but the albums are still pariah. Purple Rain remaster will be welcomed with open arms, him chucking out a 3rd Eye Girl album and one of his own (if these both actually happen) will just be seen as more of the same studio diarrhea that he has become known for.

Which songs do you have in mind?

robertgeorgeakabob said:

trax said:

Well I don't think it would be a hit but I do like it better than The Breakdown. Neither one is hit material though to me. With all the excitement and publicity of Prince going back to WB he should have released a JAM!! A ballad is just such a downer. What the world needed was not another slow song. Actually I think Pretzelbodylogic is the most commercial of any of his recent releases. While the org has bashed it I have sampled this as well as all of his recent singles and it seems like everyone likes PBL outside of the org community. Granted, only sampled about 50 people or so it is a small sample. I would say its about 90% positive. Of the same people 70-80% positive on FYLU, 80-90% positive on screwdriver, 25% positive on Breakdown and 40-50% positive on BCW(with everyone liking the Chappele cover).

You need to find friends with a taste in decent music.

These are not friends. They are customers in a music store. No ties to me at all. Yes I do agree that they should listen to better music. Prince is the past I know but I promote him because my customers like him. Sorry, I can't help that. I do promote other artists to them also though so I am trying.

[Edited 4/22/14 12:27pm]

trax said:

NouveauDance said:

It really couldn't, and neither could the Breakdown. You only have to see what casual/non-fans say when he puts these kinds of tracks out, they couldn't give two shits it's just more of the same mid-tempo sludge he's been churning out for the past 15+ years. And there have been great songs and single worthy songs and potential hits, but they either weren't singles or they haven't been promoted so as to reach an audience that would be interested.

.

He does a string a rock-orientated shows in the UK that go down a storm - the media lapped it up, the audiences loved, he releases..... a cheesy dance track and a sappy ballad. Great marketing. People think "yeah great live, but still in a studio quagmire" and move on - general audience aren't affraid of his live shows any more, but the albums are still pariah. Purple Rain remaster will be welcomed with open arms, him chucking out a 3rd Eye Girl album and one of his own (if these both actually happen) will just be seen as more of the same studio diarrhea that he has become known for.

If he released an album comparable to any of his 80's albums, the public wouldn't notice, and most fans over 35 have been brainwashed to the point where they won't like the songs no matter what. It seems anybody over 35 simply can't like new music by old artists anymore. Most of my over 35 friends feel that way about everybody. Lotus Flow3r wasn't SOTT, but it was about as close as Prince will come to that level of quality, and people actually liked MPLSound better around here. His inability to market and promote also plays a huge role. Had he just released an album every 3-5 years since Purple Rain, and maybe a 10 Disc Monster outtake set every 8 years, his commercial interest would have been there, but he oversaturated the market, and even his own fans can't listen to him with honesty.

Sorry but no way in hell in could have been, sorry to be so blunt, but no label no promo would have gotten it to that place, thats reality. Let this idea go that PRINCE is going to have some "Beyonce" like fame at age 55, and YEAH we know that Santana did it with "SUPERNATURAL" but do you really want a new Prince record with duets with Taylor Swift and Justin Beiber to get him on the charts like Santana had back then. Prince may again have a number one album, i mean he did that recently with an album not many even liked! So i think he will have a number one album, not really hard now for an older artist with a base to do, Pearl Jam, Bruce, Bon Jovi Foo Fighters, coldplay, etc..they all pretty much do it so can he. But he isnt gonna take over the airwaves like 1984 and have some ADELE sales numbers not going to happen not matter how much purple kool aid you drink.

lastdecember said:

Sorry but no way in hell in could have been, sorry to be so blunt, but no label no promo would have gotten it to that place, thats reality. Let this idea go that PRINCE is going to have some "Beyonce" like fame at age 55, and YEAH we know that Santana did it with "SUPERNATURAL" but do you really want a new Prince record with duets with Taylor Swift and Justin Beiber to get him on the charts like Santana had back then. Prince may again have a number one album, i mean he did that recently with an album not many even liked! So i think he will have a number one album, not really hard now for an older artist with a base to do, Pearl Jam, Bruce, Bon Jovi Foo Fighters, coldplay, etc..they all pretty much do it so can he. But he isnt gonna take over the airwaves like 1984 and have some ADELE sales numbers not going to happen not matter how much purple kool aid you drink.

if it's ever going to happen, him getting anywhere near those sales figures again, it won't be

because of anything he or the recordcompany does, it will simply be a fluke hit. they tend to

come along once every decade or so for some artists. who knows, maybe some more tunes

on tvshows will push one of his old songs back to #1 out of the blue, like it seems to do for

some groups these days. but who cares anymore? like you said, Adele type numbers are a

rare thing for anyone these days, let alone prince. i don't really understand why people here

keep mentioning "Supernatural" either, how long has it been since that album? i'm sure that

Santana managed to sell some decent numbers since but he hasn't had a hit album like that

anymore, or a hit single as big as those.

NouveauDance said:

It really couldn't, and neither could the Breakdown. You only have to see what casual/non-fans say when he puts these kinds of tracks out, they couldn't give two shits it's just more of the same mid-tempo sludge he's been churning out for the past 15+ years. And there have been great songs and single worthy songs and potential hits, but they either weren't singles or they haven't been promoted so as to reach an audience that would be interested.

.

He does a string a rock-orientated shows in the UK that go down a storm - the media lapped it up, the audiences loved, he releases..... a cheesy dance track and a sappy ballad. Great marketing. People think "yeah great live, but still in a studio quagmire" and move on - general audience aren't affraid of his live shows any more, but the albums are still pariah. Purple Rain remaster will be welcomed with open arms, him chucking out a 3rd Eye Girl album and one of his own (if these both actually happen) will just be seen as more of the same studio diarrhea that he has become known for.

.

And there you have it. 15+ years of quanity over quality and that is the result.

stillwaiting said:

Lotus Flow3r wasn't SOTT, but it was about as close as Prince will come to that level of quality,

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This is simply delusional.

BartVanHemelen said:

I think Breakfast Can Wait could've had more exposure, but claiming a NUMBER ONE for this and a few other recent tracks is a bit far-fetched.

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If you like the song, it's a hit (for you). To your point though, under WB it would've had a lot more exposure than just Prince releasing it himself. It did get a lot of press, mostly for the cover though.

No. You're dreaming. 'Breakfast Can Wait' is not catchy enough for the radio and people hate Prince's high voice and tone. People want an arena rock ballad like Purple Rain or something funky like Kiss (the only case people like Prince's high voice). 'Breakfast Can Wait' is one of the worst songs any artist has ever done, I don't know what Prince was thinking when he went to record it in the studio. Prince is shit now and y'all gotta admit it. The best thing he has done in this decade is touring and re-releasing Purple Rain.

errant said:

IstenSzek said:

lastdecember said:

Sorry but no way in hell in could have been, sorry to be so blunt, but no label no promo would have gotten it to that place, thats reality. Let this idea go that PRINCE is going to have some "Beyonce" like fame at age 55, and YEAH we know that Santana did it with "SUPERNATURAL" but do you really want a new Prince record with duets with Taylor Swift and Justin Beiber to get him on the charts like Santana had back then. Prince may again have a number one album, i mean he did that recently with an album not many even liked! So i think he will have a number one album, not really hard now for an older artist with a base to do, Pearl Jam, Bruce, Bon Jovi Foo Fighters, coldplay, etc..they all pretty much do it so can he. But he isnt gonna take over the airwaves like 1984 and have some ADELE sales numbers not going to happen not matter how much purple kool aid you drink.

if it's ever going to happen, him getting anywhere near those sales figures again, it won't be

because of anything he or the recordcompany does, it will simply be a fluke hit. they tend to

come along once every decade or so for some artists. who knows, maybe some more tunes

on tvshows will push one of his old songs back to #1 out of the blue, like it seems to do for

some groups these days. but who cares anymore? like you said, Adele type numbers are a

rare thing for anyone these days, let alone prince. i don't really understand why people here

keep mentioning "Supernatural" either, how long has it been since that album? i'm sure that

Santana managed to sell some decent numbers since but he hasn't had a hit album like that

anymore, or a hit single as big as those.

Santana's popularity with the Supernatural album was partially/majorly influenced by his guest stars. Rob Thomas was huge at the time, and he wrote "Smooth", the biggest song from the album. So really, Santana road the wave of Rob Thomas' popularity straight to #1. I doubt the general public could name more than 2 songs off that album.

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Santana took this same approach on other albums too, like with Michelle Branch and with Steven Tyler and had great success with those collabos too.

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Do we want Prince doing duets with Pink, Rhianna, Drake, Bieber, etc? Hell no. But, he tried this approach on Rave with Sheryl Crow, Gwen Stefani, Ani DiFranco, Chuck D, etc. and it didn't work even though there were some top names at the time on that album. In addition, none of the songs on Rave are as strong as "Smooth". I'd love to say otherwise but that's the truth.

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As much as people like to say that songs become hits because of massive PR campaigns, it's just not always or entirely true. Smooth was a hit because it was great.