TheEnglishGent said:

SoulAlive said:

so,basically you're saying that nobody cares about Prince's proteges,or music that he produced for others? I beg to differ.Come on,if Andre Cymone's 'A/C' album can be remastered as a 2-disc set (!),surely the Time albums deserve to be remastered,too

There's no correlation to a remaster and big sales. Just because Andre's album has been remastered, doesn't mean it makes much money. Maybe I missed it, at which position did the album chart and how long has it spent in the top 100?

U didn't read a single word I wrote, did u?

THE GODDAMN TOP 100 REPRESENTS 1 to 5% AT MOST OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SMALL LABELS WHO DO MAKE MONEY WITH SMALL RELEASES TARGETED AT NICHE AUDIENCES.

Or, to quote the post u haven't read:

"Remasters without additional material have little interest, even I wouldn't buy them. But all these hardcore hi-fi fans who insult you here when u say u listen to MP3 because only FLAC sounds good enough for them will buy them. Whether P wishes us to hear his own renditions of these songs remains to be seen but to get the interest of everyone concerned there would have to be previously unreleased bonus tracks in one form or another AND sound improvement.

The fact that u're not convinced isn't really... no offence... making a difference. As I said every year forgotten gems (or even sometimes forgotten boring pieces of junk) are being rereleased and remastered by indie labels or majors sublabels (I'll give u that there r many people here like u who don't consider Prince's music to be real Prince music when he ain't singing, as if P was just a singer in the first place, I've never understood that, it's an absurdity to me: Prince isn't Whitney Houston). Maybe u wouldn't buy 'em: many other people would, including funk fans or pop fans who are not specifically Prince fans but like P's work among other funk/pop acts and may enjoy his side projects (I'm even quite sure that some people enjoy The Time more than Prince, it was the case at the time). Believing that these records will stay out of print forever is totally absurd, once again we're talking about one of the most influencial and important artists of the second half of the 20th century. The "worst" that could happen is that they'd be rereleased digitally only (digitally remastering albums ain't that expensive and releasing an album online implies no production costs), but believe me rereleasing that stuff with bonus material would make some money. I know people who run labels that sell between 10,000 and 50,000 copies of each album they release: it's their job and they make a living. Are you saying their lives and their jobs are meaningless? If WB isn't interested Prince can easily find small labels like Purple Music (just an example) that would dramatically increase their income by rereleasing that stuff because for them 50,000 copies is a lot of sales and money. WB could also let small sublabels they own do the job to make them a bit more profitable. Prince could simply do it himself by releasing the stuff digitally only. The problem with many people here is that they believe that the music industry is only majors and that any album in the world selling less than 500,000 copies is a commercial failure. This is totally absurd: most of the music industry consists of small label that sell little quantities and still manage to generate enough profit to keep going, and many of these labels increase their income with rereleases (that don't imply costly studio time in recording sessions). How many copies do u think André Cymone sold with his remasters? Why do u think Pepé Willie has rereleased his 94 East stuff so many times over the years if not for money? How many copies do u think Cherry Pop and Virgin sold of their rerelease of Wendy & Lisa's Fruit At The Bottom? So OK u may not be convinced but believe me, all these labels ARE."

.

And the next post:

¨Buckethead has released, PHYSICALLY, 46, yeah FORTY SIX albums in 2 years. How many people do u think even know who Buckethead is and buy his records, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

John Zorn releases, PHYSICALLY, an average of an album every 2 months on his own label, and if I'm not mistaken he also maintains most, if not his whole catalogue (100+ albums) on print, PHYSICALLY. How many people know who John Zorn is and buy his albums, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

How can it be possible that there's no money to be made with The Time???"

So now of course u can decide u don't want to hear that and answer "yeah but still I don't believe any money can be generated by rereleases of the Time" and we can go like this in a loop forever, but if u're bona fide u have to admit that there IS a market for The Time (and The Family, and Madhouse, and Ingrid Chavez, etc.).

The Time is relevant because even P plays their stuff live.

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BTW:

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See this page for some stuff he should try too.

Well Prince originally wanted a full 'soundtrack' album Purple Rain (the Time) Apollonia 6 Dez Dickerson, so why not include the Time

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well Prince originally wanted a full 'soundtrack' album Purple Rain (the Time) Apollonia 6 Dez Dickerson, so why not include the Time

Because they belong on other albums (save Modernaire who's a wild child) and I don't want them to waste precious space that can be used for more outtakes or a comprehensive collection of single versions of tracks and b-sides on songs that should be remastered and rereleased in the context of the albums they belong to. U wanna have a full OST: then u just sequence ur own compilation at home but leave the remasters out of this ^^ But to have Sex Shooter, The Bird and Jungle Love as bonus tracks on a PR box-set is just a waste of precious space, except maybe if we're talking a 10 CD-set but let's not dream. To me the movie is the movie and the albums r the albums, it would be as absurd as to put 2 bonus tracks from 8 on a SOTT remaster or 3 bonus tracks from Carmen Electra on a remaster.

The only interest in that, for me, would be maybe as teasers for future ICC and A6 remasters, by giving a first taste of those to non-fans who may buy the set, like them and wanna buy the other albums when released, but since it's highly unlikely those albums will be remastered immediately after PR (the priority will certainly be put on "Prince" albums), it would hardly make sense as a marketing strategy.

I would rather have The Time's cd released as remasters also rather than putting them on Purple Rain. Same for Appolonia 6 also.

For me it is not a probem if they make it a multi-CD box.

2 or so discs for PR.

1 or 2 for Time

etc, etc.

trax said:

I would rather have The Time's cd released as remasters also rather than putting them on Purple Rain. Same for Appolonia 6 also.

I'm saying, since Prince wanted that originally then why not have the the Time & Apollonia 6 albums remastered. I want all of the protege albums remastered

OldFriends4Sale said:

trax said:

I would rather have The Time's cd released as remasters also rather than putting them on Purple Rain. Same for Appolonia 6 also.

I'm saying, since Prince wanted that originally then why not have the the Time & Apollonia 6 albums remastered. I want all of the protege albums remastered

So do I, so do I, these gems are part of his legacy

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well Prince originally wanted a full 'soundtrack' album Purple Rain (the Time) Apollonia 6 Dez Dickerson, so why not include the Time

I've often heard that Prince wanted a Purple Rain double album which would encompass all the songs in the film, but I've also equally heard people dismiss that notion and say that the single album was the only thing he was interested in releasing. Do you have a source for this? (I remember that Dez Dickerson mentioned it explicitly in his Prince Podcast interview, but I'm not sure he's the most reliable source.)

udo said:

For me it is not a probem if they make it a multi-CD box.

2 or so discs for PR.

1 or 2 for Time

etc, etc.

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well Prince originally wanted a full 'soundtrack' album Purple Rain (the Time) Apollonia 6 Dez Dickerson, so why not include the Time

I've often heard that Prince wanted a Purple Rain double album which would encompass all the songs in the film, but I've also equally heard people dismiss that notion and say that the single album was the only thing he was interested in releasing. Do you have a source for this? (I remember that Dez Dickerson mentioned it explicitly in his Prince Podcast interview, but I'm not sure he's the most reliable source.)

He probably toyed with the idea at some point but it's not like he wanted to and WB forbade it: the album as it was released is P's final idea of what it had to be. Same goes with editing Computer Blue: he chose to include TMWU and it's not like he went and told WB "OK sorry I got one more song so I need it to be a double album" and they said no, it was a decision P made by himself.

databank said:

TheEnglishGent said:

There's no correlation to a remaster and big sales. Just because Andre's album has been remastered, doesn't mean it makes much money. Maybe I missed it, at which position did the album chart and how long has it spent in the top 100?

U didn't read a single word I wrote, did u?

THE GODDAMN TOP 100 REPRESENTS 1 to 5% AT MOST OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SMALL LABELS WHO DO MAKE MONEY WITH SMALL RELEASES TARGETED AT NICHE AUDIENCES.

Or, to quote the post u haven't read:

"Remasters without additional material have little interest, even I wouldn't buy them. But all these hardcore hi-fi fans who insult you here when u say u listen to MP3 because only FLAC sounds good enough for them will buy them. Whether P wishes us to hear his own renditions of these songs remains to be seen but to get the interest of everyone concerned there would have to be previously unreleased bonus tracks in one form or another AND sound improvement.

The fact that u're not convinced isn't really... no offence... making a difference. As I said every year forgotten gems (or even sometimes forgotten boring pieces of junk) are being rereleased and remastered by indie labels or majors sublabels (I'll give u that there r many people here like u who don't consider Prince's music to be real Prince music when he ain't singing, as if P was just a singer in the first place, I've never understood that, it's an absurdity to me: Prince isn't Whitney Houston). Maybe u wouldn't buy 'em: many other people would, including funk fans or pop fans who are not specifically Prince fans but like P's work among other funk/pop acts and may enjoy his side projects (I'm even quite sure that some people enjoy The Time more than Prince, it was the case at the time). Believing that these records will stay out of print forever is totally absurd, once again we're talking about one of the most influencial and important artists of the second half of the 20th century. The "worst" that could happen is that they'd be rereleased digitally only (digitally remastering albums ain't that expensive and releasing an album online implies no production costs), but believe me rereleasing that stuff with bonus material would make some money. I know people who run labels that sell between 10,000 and 50,000 copies of each album they release: it's their job and they make a living. Are you saying their lives and their jobs are meaningless? If WB isn't interested Prince can easily find small labels like Purple Music (just an example) that would dramatically increase their income by rereleasing that stuff because for them 50,000 copies is a lot of sales and money. WB could also let small sublabels they own do the job to make them a bit more profitable. Prince could simply do it himself by releasing the stuff digitally only. The problem with many people here is that they believe that the music industry is only majors and that any album in the world selling less than 500,000 copies is a commercial failure. This is totally absurd: most of the music industry consists of small label that sell little quantities and still manage to generate enough profit to keep going, and many of these labels increase their income with rereleases (that don't imply costly studio time in recording sessions). How many copies do u think André Cymone sold with his remasters? Why do u think Pepé Willie has rereleased his 94 East stuff so many times over the years if not for money? How many copies do u think Cherry Pop and Virgin sold of their rerelease of Wendy & Lisa's Fruit At The Bottom? So OK u may not be convinced but believe me, all these labels ARE."

.

And the next post:

¨Buckethead has released, PHYSICALLY, 46, yeah FORTY SIX albums in 2 years. How many people do u think even know who Buckethead is and buy his records, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

John Zorn releases, PHYSICALLY, an average of an album every 2 months on his own label, and if I'm not mistaken he also maintains most, if not his whole catalogue (100+ albums) on print, PHYSICALLY. How many people know who John Zorn is and buy his albums, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

How can it be possible that there's no money to be made with The Time???"

So now of course u can decide u don't want to hear that and answer "yeah but still I don't believe any money can be generated by rereleases of the Time" and we can go like this in a loop forever, but if u're bona fide u have to admit that there IS a market for The Time (and The Family, and Madhouse, and Ingrid Chavez, etc.).

This is the one I haven't read a single workd of.

TheEnglishGent said:

SoulAlive said:

so,basically you're saying that nobody cares about Prince's proteges,or music that he produced for others? I beg to differ.Come on,if Andre Cymone's 'A/C' album can be remastered as a 2-disc set (!),surely the Time albums deserve to be remastered,too

There's no correlation to a remaster and big sales. Just because Andre's album has been remastered, doesn't mean it makes much money. Maybe I missed it, at which position did the album chart and how long has it spent in the top 100?

Well yeah but come on now.....most remasters aren't very profitable for the record companies.Look at the Billboard charts and tell me,how many "old" albums do you see on it? No one is under any illusion that remasters of CDs by The Time (or any other Prince protege) are gonna sell millions.It's likely that some of Prince's own albums (besides PR) won't be massive sellers when they are remastered.Why can't it just be a special thing for the diehards who will buy this stuff? To make their collections complete.

SoulAlive said:

TheEnglishGent said:

There's no correlation to a remaster and big sales. Just because Andre's album has been remastered, doesn't mean it makes much money. Maybe I missed it, at which position did the album chart and how long has it spent in the top 100?

Well yeah but come on now.....most remasters aren't very profitable for the record companies.Look at the Billboard charts and tell me,how many "old" albums do you see on it? No one is under any illusion that remasters of CDs by The Time (or any other Prince protege) are gonna sell millions.It's likely that some of Prince's own albums (besides PR) won't be massive sellers when they are remastered.Why can't it just be a special thing for the diehards who will buy this stuff? To make their collections complete.

That's exactly what they are and that's cool.

SoulAlive said:

stillwaiting said:

Most of the remasters of lower selling stuff is done because somebody out there cares about the music. Both the artist, or the original production team, or a few obsessed fans who have connections. In the case of the Time, it would take Prince involvement, and I don't think he cares. If there was a promise of 100,000 units moved, then he might listen, but the first 3 Time albums are in the 4.99 bins for a reason...the public as a whole doesn't care. I'd pay $60 for Box set of all the Time stuff remastered, but who else would? Even if they put the Box Set at $18, I doubt it would sell enough to make enough of a profit for Prince to want to do it.

so,basically you're saying that nobody cares about Prince's proteges,or music that he produced for others? I beg to differ.Come on,if Andre Cymone's 'A/C' album can be remastered as a 2-disc set (!),surely the Time albums deserve to be remastered,too

The Andre Cymone sets did not sell that well. The big advantage was they had was they had NEVER been released on cd, so at least it was the first actual cd release. The Time albums have been out of print for years, but there are still tons of them out there at the Best Buy bargain bins. Sure Prince related artists will always have some market, but enough to generate the kind of revenue to get anybody all excited? Only us diehards. The Time were big, but there is no evidence anybody other than the dedicated would even think of remasters.

SoulAlive said:

No one is under any illusion that remasters of CDs by The Time (or any other Prince protege) are gonna sell millions.

So what about expected sales for P?

WB is crazy enough to do some work, invest money in pressing and promotion, give P some cash AND give him the ownerships of the masters.

So there must be something in there for them WB's as well...

TheEnglishGent said:

databank said:

U didn't read a single word I wrote, did u?

THE GODDAMN TOP 100 REPRESENTS 1 to 5% AT MOST OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF SMALL LABELS WHO DO MAKE MONEY WITH SMALL RELEASES TARGETED AT NICHE AUDIENCES.

Or, to quote the post u haven't read:

"Remasters without additional material have little interest, even I wouldn't buy them. But all these hardcore hi-fi fans who insult you here when u say u listen to MP3 because only FLAC sounds good enough for them will buy them. Whether P wishes us to hear his own renditions of these songs remains to be seen but to get the interest of everyone concerned there would have to be previously unreleased bonus tracks in one form or another AND sound improvement.

The fact that u're not convinced isn't really... no offence... making a difference. As I said every year forgotten gems (or even sometimes forgotten boring pieces of junk) are being rereleased and remastered by indie labels or majors sublabels (I'll give u that there r many people here like u who don't consider Prince's music to be real Prince music when he ain't singing, as if P was just a singer in the first place, I've never understood that, it's an absurdity to me: Prince isn't Whitney Houston). Maybe u wouldn't buy 'em: many other people would, including funk fans or pop fans who are not specifically Prince fans but like P's work among other funk/pop acts and may enjoy his side projects (I'm even quite sure that some people enjoy The Time more than Prince, it was the case at the time). Believing that these records will stay out of print forever is totally absurd, once again we're talking about one of the most influencial and important artists of the second half of the 20th century. The "worst" that could happen is that they'd be rereleased digitally only (digitally remastering albums ain't that expensive and releasing an album online implies no production costs), but believe me rereleasing that stuff with bonus material would make some money. I know people who run labels that sell between 10,000 and 50,000 copies of each album they release: it's their job and they make a living. Are you saying their lives and their jobs are meaningless? If WB isn't interested Prince can easily find small labels like Purple Music (just an example) that would dramatically increase their income by rereleasing that stuff because for them 50,000 copies is a lot of sales and money. WB could also let small sublabels they own do the job to make them a bit more profitable. Prince could simply do it himself by releasing the stuff digitally only. The problem with many people here is that they believe that the music industry is only majors and that any album in the world selling less than 500,000 copies is a commercial failure. This is totally absurd: most of the music industry consists of small label that sell little quantities and still manage to generate enough profit to keep going, and many of these labels increase their income with rereleases (that don't imply costly studio time in recording sessions). How many copies do u think André Cymone sold with his remasters? Why do u think Pepé Willie has rereleased his 94 East stuff so many times over the years if not for money? How many copies do u think Cherry Pop and Virgin sold of their rerelease of Wendy & Lisa's Fruit At The Bottom? So OK u may not be convinced but believe me, all these labels ARE."

.

And the next post:

¨Buckethead has released, PHYSICALLY, 46, yeah FORTY SIX albums in 2 years. How many people do u think even know who Buckethead is and buy his records, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

John Zorn releases, PHYSICALLY, an average of an album every 2 months on his own label, and if I'm not mistaken he also maintains most, if not his whole catalogue (100+ albums) on print, PHYSICALLY. How many people know who John Zorn is and buy his albums, let alone all of them? Still, if he does it it's that it's profitable to some extent.

How can it be possible that there's no money to be made with The Time???"

So now of course u can decide u don't want to hear that and answer "yeah but still I don't believe any money can be generated by rereleases of the Time" and we can go like this in a loop forever, but if u're bona fide u have to admit that there IS a market for The Time (and The Family, and Madhouse, and Ingrid Chavez, etc.).

This is the one I haven't read a single workd of.

stillwaiting said:

SoulAlive said:

so,basically you're saying that nobody cares about Prince's proteges,or music that he produced for others? I beg to differ.Come on,if Andre Cymone's 'A/C' album can be remastered as a 2-disc set (!),surely the Time albums deserve to be remastered,too

The Andre Cymone sets did not sell that well. The big advantage was they had was they had NEVER been released on cd, so at least it was the first actual cd release. The Time albums have been out of print for years, but there are still tons of them out there at the Best Buy bargain bins. Sure Prince related artists will always have some market, but enough to generate the kind of revenue to get anybody all excited? Only us diehards. The Time were big, but there is no evidence anybody other than the dedicated would even think of remasters.

Everything you said is true,but I'd still like them to not focus so much on *sales* and simply remaster those CDs anyway To me,remasters are mostly for the diehard fans anyway...those who would shell out money to buy a newly remastered copy of an album that they already have.Warners can make big money from their "current" artists.They don't need to count on big revenues from remasters.

udo said:

SoulAlive said:

No one is under any illusion that remasters of CDs by The Time (or any other Prince protege) are gonna sell millions.

So what about expected sales for P?

WB is crazy enough to do some work, invest money in pressing and promotion, give P some cash AND give him the ownerships of the masters.

So there must be something in there for them WB's as well...

this is something we should discuss: exactly how profitable are remasters? I know that the Beatles remasters sell extremely well,but what about other artists? We all all agree that the Purple Rain remaster will sell alot of copies,but what about Prince's other albums...the ones that weren't big sellers the first time around (like Lovesexy)? Does anyone have sales figures on remasters?

stillwaiting said:

SoulAlive said:

so,basically you're saying that nobody cares about Prince's proteges,or music that he produced for others? I beg to differ.Come on,if Andre Cymone's 'A/C' album can be remastered as a 2-disc set (!),surely the Time albums deserve to be remastered,too

The Andre Cymone sets did not sell that well. The big advantage was they had was they had NEVER been released on cd, so at least it was the first actual cd release. The Time albums have been out of print for years, but there are still tons of them out there at the Best Buy bargain bins. Sure Prince related artists will always have some market, but enough to generate the kind of revenue to get anybody all excited? Only us diehards. The Time were big, but there is no evidence anybody other than the dedicated would even think of remasters.

Given the state of the music industry anyway physical releases are more and more becoming deluxe objects for die hard collectors (and the old who ain't got a computer, but they'll b dead soon). 10 years from now only die hard music fans and collectors will buy CD's, so the more "deluxe" the CD's available are, the more they'll sell. Die hard buy CD's and will invest in deluxe box-sets. Hipsters buy vinyls again. For those we can have a LP limited editions and limited, huge, expensive, deluxe box-sets. Then u can have mainstream single CD releases for those who still buy CD's casually and will be tempted to get albums like PR because of the hype around the rerelease, but that will only be profitable for a few more years and most of the casual listeners will already buy those albums digitally even today. The Time albums r already available digitally and replacing the current files by remasters won't be an expensive move for WB and/or Prince, who can probably make a cheap digital remastering process profitable just by selling limited deluxe editions and then slowly capitalize on it by offering digital sales. Most side-projects aren't available digitally at this point (only the 4 The Time albums and the first 2 Sheila E. albums are), so rereleasing digital remasters with bonus tracks digitally would be a good move, with a few limited edition CD and maybe LP editions for the die hards. Nowadays unless u're Lady Gaga u don't sell millions of copies, even digitally (because of P2P's, torrents and direct download pirate sites) so the expectations are much lower than 20 years ago, but those record companies need to make a buck and every penny earned is a penny earned. Look at what they're doing with VEVO just for advertisement money: they upload the most obscure videos by the most obscure acts: 10 years ago who'd have thought u'd find digitally remastered music videos by the likes of Mico Wave, Eye To Eye or Iam Siam on the internet (do u even know who these acts are?)? And still Sony-BMG and Universal bothered looking into their vaults, digitally remaster their old video tapes and uploading them on YT. Most people here seem to think that if it won't sell at least 500,000 copies it's not worth the move for either a major or Prince. Whatever the next albums P releases with either Kobalt or WB, WB will be happy if they sell a few hundred thousand copies and Kobalt will probably be satisfied with a few dozen thousand copies. Money is money and it's really HARD to lose money with rereleasing albums, for what's expensive is recording studio costs and those have already been paid for when the albums were originally released, so u can spend a few thousand dollars getting a digital remaster, add unreleased material that's never even been made profit by having been originally released, and be happy with it. If they sell 25,000 copies of a The Time remaster altogether (CD + digital) they can still make a profit of 50,000-75,000 bucks on every album on the first year, and keep getting some cash from digital sales every year afterwards. Not a big thrill for the majors and the Prince of the 80's, but already well earned money for them in the 2010's.

SoulAlive said:

udo said:

So what about expected sales for P?

WB is crazy enough to do some work, invest money in pressing and promotion, give P some cash AND give him the ownerships of the masters.

So there must be something in there for them WB's as well...

this is something we should discuss: exactly how profitable are remasters? I know that the Beatles remasters sell extremely well,but what about other artists? We all all agree that the Purple Rain remaster will sell alot of copies,but what about Prince's other albums...the ones that weren't big sellers the first time around (like Lovesexy)? Does anyone have sales figures on remasters?

Besides the sales figures, there's also the production cost, the overhead, etc.

Cost is cheap as CD's are a proven technology. So a few dollars per 2CD?

Overhead is cost of remastering, promotion and marketing, fees for the artist (!), etc.

Remaster retail prices vary. In the Netherlands:

€ 29,99 for 3 discs of Queen

€ 18,99 for 1 disc of Queen

€ 10,99 for 1 disc of Velvest Underground

etc (bol.com)

Dutch VAT is 21%...

SoulAlive said:

TheEnglishGent said:

SoulAlive said:

I'm sure PR remaster will make some money, but not much. Considering how few copies his new music seems to sell I can't see remasters doing that much unless there's a huge marketing push but then the money from that needs to be recouped so profits are smaller. More money will be made by prince from touring on the back of all the publicity.

Y'all have to stop being obsessed by this. Nowadays an album doesn't need to sell 2 millions to be considered profitable anymore, + remasters/rereleases have very reduced production costs (studio time being the most expensive thing in the production of an album) so it's maximum benefits compared to the original investment, even more when u talk digital sales where there is no possible loss at all.

The Org is like stuck in the 80's and slaved to media brainwashing forever:

- If it's not played on maisntream radios and TV channels, it's a failure.

- If it sells less than 5 million copies, it's a failure.

- If it's not in the Top 100, it's a failure.

This is nuts.

Looky looky here, this is a list of the best-selling albums of all times, starting at 20M copies: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ing_albums

How many albums are there on that list after 2004?

One! ONE bloody album has sold 20M copies or more since 2005.

That says it all about what "making money" means in the music industry nowadays! U guys have to extract yourselves of the 80's and 90's, this is 2014!

databank said:

The Org is like stuck in the 80's and slaved to media brainwashing forever:

- If it's not played on maisntream radios and TV channels, it's a failure.

- If it sells less than 5 million copies, it's a failure.

- If it's not in the Top 100, it's a failure.

This is nuts.

This is the same as saying that the Minneapolis sound is a niche.

I am not saying it is untrue but stating the obvious.

udo said:

databank said:

The Org is like stuck in the 80's and slaved to media brainwashing forever:

- If it's not played on maisntream radios and TV channels, it's a failure.

- If it sells less than 5 million copies, it's a failure.

- If it's not in the Top 100, it's a failure.

This is nuts.

This is the same as saying that the Minneapolis sound is a niche.

I am not saying it is untrue but stating the obvious.

Not sure I follow u, what in the world do u mean?

databank said:

udo said:

This is the same as saying that the Minneapolis sound is a niche.

I am not saying it is untrue but stating the obvious.

Not sure I follow u, what in the world do u mean?

Paraphrased:

Not investing in remasters for The Time (et al) is because all Minneapolis sound is a niche product.

udo said:

databank said:

Not sure I follow u, what in the world do u mean?

Paraphrased:

Not investing in remasters for The Time (et al) is because all Minneapolis sound is a niche product.

Huh??? (meconfusedverytireddidn'sleepmuchtheselastfewdays)

I think a lot of people underestimate the interest that many, many people beyond the 'diehard' fans have in not only Uptown/Erotic City/Paisley Park of 1979-1989 but they are very much interested in the protege work