SmiggyG said:

I admit the mix is bad but I think some are going way overboard here saying this is the worst ever. Hell listen to the end of Let's Go Crazy, Cybersingle, even Screwdriver. (Screwdriver from the Purple Music site sounded far better imo) Don't even get me going on Live Out Loud which has got to be the absolute worst mixed/mastered song of his I've heard to this day. My

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Shit probably sounds fine on whatever he's playing it through though.

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Where's good old Bernie Grundman when you need him? I think Lovesexy was the last Prince project Bernie was a part of.

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People like Grundman are not needed when the only engineering skill needed today is to be able to turn a knob or sound level button as far as it will go.

It's a nice song, but mastering is the least of it's troubles. Prince really does need a producer to bounce ideas off of. The song itself is nice, but the execution could be far better, and like I said, mastering is wayyyyyy down on the list of it's recording deficiencies.

stillwaiting said:

TheEnglishGent said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

stillwaiting said:

People like Grundman are not needed when the only engineering skill needed today is to be able to turn a knob or sound level button as far as it will go.

That's why I'm not into remasters, most are just louder and tricks your mind into thinking you are hearing things that were not there. But the unreleased and new music should be fun.

Yeah...to someone like me who still has all her original (great sounding) vinyl, it's hard to imagine a re-master bringing anything new to the table.

funkaholic1972 said:

donnyenglish said:

Reminds me of Empty Room, but better. My interpretation of the song is that it is not sad at all but about a woman that has made him a better man. Am I missing something?

Really??? Empty Room is a bonafide classic in my humble opinion, The Breakdown is mediocre at best for me.

If there has been a classic released since 2010, this would be it. I love it.

bollocks. US Amazon won't let me download either! Skipper fucked up, people r gonna be getting it other ways if he don't hurry up! Any idea of a work around for either Amazon or iTunes, other than just ripping a stream?

Genesia said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

stillwaiting said: That's why I'm not into remasters, most are just louder and tricks your mind into thinking you are hearing things that were not there. But the unreleased and new music should be fun.

Yeah...to someone like me who still has all her original (great sounding) vinyl, it's hard to imagine a re-master bringing anything new to the table.

Lots of remasters bring out stuff it's hard to hear in he originals. The remastered hits for Prince sound definitely better than even my vinyl. Really depends on who handles doing it.

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Although the song is STILL not available overseas,

i just heard it on the german radio station HR1 and the DJ credited to "Prince & 3rdeyegirl".

So, the push is there.

They never played any other newer music from Prince in a loooooooong time.

Prost!

mikeyaddict said:

bollocks. US Amazon won't let me download either! Skipper fucked up, people r gonna be getting it other ways if he don't hurry up! Any idea of a work around for either Amazon or iTunes, other than just ripping a stream?

Worked for me on Amazon.

EddieC said:

mikeyaddict said:

bollocks. US Amazon won't let me download either! Skipper fucked up, people r gonna be getting it other ways if he don't hurry up! Any idea of a work around for either Amazon or iTunes, other than just ripping a stream?

Worked for me on Amazon.

I tried it on US amazon, too. It didn't work here in Germany.

nayroo2002 said:

Although the song is STILL not available overseas,

i just heard it on the german radio station HR1 and the DJ credited to "Prince & 3rdeyegirl".

So, the push is there.

They never played any other newer music from Prince in a loooooooong time.

Prost!

As far as i can tell from their online playlist, it was played from cd as they only list songs from their digital library.

Promos are out! (and i can't really be a judge, but the radio transmission sounded better than the stream)

Prost!

starting to like it a little less!..it is a good song but very similar to empty room, the dance [from 3121] etc. Like i say a quality song but he's done it before. Will still buy it though!

My first Prince purchase in five years.

kewlschool said:

I like the song, best release song since most of the songs on Lotusflow3r album.

I agree.

i'm curious, for those people who say this is, for them, the best prince song in 5 years

or even 10 years - what did you think of "Future Soul Song"?

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i'm asking because the one reminds me a bit of the other, and i like both of them lots.

but "Future Soul Song" has the edge for me, there's just so much going on.

/

perhaps that's why there's no guitar solo at the end of The Breakdown, because it'd

be too much like Future Soul Song with a guitar thrown in there.

IstenSzek said:

i'm curious, for those people who say this is, for them, the best prince song in 5 years

or even 10 years - what did you think of "Future Soul Song"?

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i'm asking because the one reminds me a bit of the other, and i like both of them lots.

but "Future Soul Song" has the edge for me, there's just so much going on.

/

perhaps that's why there's no guitar solo at the end of The Breakdown, because it'd

be too much like Future Soul Song with a guitar thrown in there.

I wouldnt say its the best anything in 10 years, its a good ballad, heavy theme,etc...but i dont feel to attached to it, I liked "Future Soul Song" much better, this reminds me too much of "The Dance" at times. I know people feel its nitpicking at the "mixing" or sound, and its not even that, if this was anyone i would be saying it was not a great mix, its beginning is very "Bootleg" sounding, its not even the distortion because nowadays everyone is too loud in the mix, thats a known fact, and the compression these tracks go through makes them sound worse, but thats my overall opinion on digital and mp3s, which all are a step down in sound majorly. But again, its a song, plain and simple, i cant really get amped on singles, i'm not a "singles" type person, i hate this "dropping" 4-5 singles before an album is even out, i have singles i bought i just totally forgot i had, (another downfall of digital) its very forgettable. When there is a FULL album i can get anxious

IstenSzek said:

i'm curious, for those people who say this is, for them, the best prince song in 5 years

or even 10 years - what did you think of "Future Soul Song"?

/

i'm asking because the one reminds me a bit of the other, and i like both of them lots.

but "Future Soul Song" has the edge for me, there's just so much going on.

/

perhaps that's why there's no guitar solo at the end of The Breakdown, because it'd

be too much like Future Soul Song with a guitar thrown in there.

future soul song was a great idea ruined by a dumb chorus .. the breakdown at very least has nothing dumb about it .. well maybe the lazers and brickwalling .. but lyrically .. it is relatable .. future soul song has some ok lyrics but mostly cartoonish and a chorus that means absolutely nothing and simply states "this is the future soul song" .. it's about as relatable as "if i came back as a dolphin" .. the listener is just left with empty words that mean nothing .. dolphin has great verses and a poop chorus .. future soul song has ok lyrics great oo ee oos and a shit chorus .. the breakdown could be better but it has no pure stinky parts like these other 2 songs mentioned

lastdecember said:

IstenSzek said:

i'm curious, for those people who say this is, for them, the best prince song in 5 years

or even 10 years - what did you think of "Future Soul Song"?

/

i'm asking because the one reminds me a bit of the other, and i like both of them lots.

but "Future Soul Song" has the edge for me, there's just so much going on.

/

perhaps that's why there's no guitar solo at the end of The Breakdown, because it'd

be too much like Future Soul Song with a guitar thrown in there.

I wouldnt say its the best anything in 10 years, its a good ballad, heavy theme,etc...but i dont feel to attached to it, I liked "Future Soul Song" much better, this reminds me too much of "The Dance" at times. I know people feel its nitpicking at the "mixing" or sound, and its not even that, if this was anyone i would be saying it was not a great mix, its beginning is very "Bootleg" sounding, its not even the distortion because nowadays everyone is too loud in the mix, thats a known fact, and the compression these tracks go through makes them sound worse, but thats my overall opinion on digital and mp3s, which all are a step down in sound majorly. But again, its a song, plain and simple, i cant really get amped on singles, i'm not a "singles" type person, i hate this "dropping" 4-5 singles before an album is even out, i have singles i bought i just totally forgot i had, (another downfall of digital) its very forgettable. When there is a FULL album i can get anxious

i agree with you completely on the 'singles' thing. that's what i'm so glad about with this new

relationship between him and warners, finally we'll get a whole album.

last year was cool enough and there was a lot of music, but it's just songs, eventhough you

can compile your own album from them, it's not the same experience.

nothing beats putting a new prince album in your stereo and just listening to it beginning to

end and soak it all in.

i've only listened to "The Breakdown" 4 times and now i'm not going to touch it anymore up

until the album is released. knowing too many songs or knowing 1 or 2 songs far too well

before you hear the album as a whole is not enjoyable for me.

and these days it gets worse and worse with some people having more than half their album

out there before it's finally released.

there's pre-releases, pre-singles, singles, promotional clips, teasers etc etc. it's all too much

TrevorAyer said:

IstenSzek said:

i'm curious, for those people who say this is, for them, the best prince song in 5 years

or even 10 years - what did you think of "Future Soul Song"?

/

i'm asking because the one reminds me a bit of the other, and i like both of them lots.

but "Future Soul Song" has the edge for me, there's just so much going on.

/

perhaps that's why there's no guitar solo at the end of The Breakdown, because it'd

be too much like Future Soul Song with a guitar thrown in there.

future soul song was a great idea ruined by a dumb chorus .. the breakdown at very least has nothing dumb about it .. well maybe the lazers and brickwalling .. but lyrically .. it is relatable .. future soul song has some ok lyrics but mostly cartoonish and a chorus that means absolutely nothing and simply states "this is the future soul song" .. it's about as relatable as "if i came back as a dolphin" .. the listener is just left with empty words that mean nothing .. dolphin has great verses and a poop chorus .. future soul song has ok lyrics great oo ee oos and a shit chorus .. the breakdown could be better but it has no pure stinky parts like these other 2 songs mentioned

hmm, interesting. and i do understand exactly what you mean, but i'm the opposite i guess,

as soon as songs become too relatable or totally non-abstract all the way through, i sort of

lose interest. unless you're joni mitchell

for example, the chorus of Dolphin sounds great to me and it's in my top 5 prince songs of

all time. it's a bit of a clunky metaphor, but i really like the sentiment.

but the chorus of Future Soul Song is indeed rather simplistic. i like the harmonies but the

chorus in this case really doesn't make any sense, you're right. but somehow, i like the

song and it's sound enough not to care in this case.

IstenSzek said:

The weird thing about the 2010 CD was that after I bought it on Ebay, there were several copies later on at my local record store here in the U.S..

Zannaloaf said:

Genesia said:

Yeah...to someone like me who still has all her original (great sounding) vinyl, it's hard to imagine a re-master bringing anything new to the table.

Lots of remasters bring out stuff it's hard to hear in he originals. The remastered hits for Prince sound definitely better than even my vinyl. Really depends on who handles doing it.

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Some of the newer remasters I've heard I like and have some hope, technology is on our side at this point, thats why unlike Bart - I'm glad this is the first go round. But like people are saying though with the "loudness war" a lot of them turn out to be a disappointment. What I find is they crank everything to 11 and music is not as dynamic. Sure your ears are hearing things that you haven't heard before but likely if they were in the original mix and you took time to train ear to listen you would hear them.

Of course with the deluxe editions, I hope for plently of studio material from the Vault. Can't go wrong with new music. Look more forward to that then remaster of his old music.

You see I have little faith in WB when it comes to remasters. The idea that Prince controls his masters, I hope like hell he farms them out to MFSL at some point. I would be interested to hear what MFSL would do with some remastering. HdTracks - more interested in hearing things in better quality as originally intended.

I would also be interested in hearing all these rerecordings that Prince did when he was angry at WB. Some may be enjoyable but from a historical standpoint I hope they see light of day if not for just hardcores.

'The Breakdown': Not feeling this one. 'Groovy Potential' remains my favorite 'most recent release'. I can't listen to this one consistently; the bridge, where he speaks of "every book I read....." just doesn't work for me.

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I'm glad that it's getting a lot of love though!

The org is weird.

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Before I even heard this song but learned about it through all the hype, I KNEW it had to be a ballad. I knew it wasn't funky. i knew it did not rock. I was not wrong. Ballads are the only songs orgers seem to get fired up about.

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I listened to it. It's no great shakes, but then again, I don't care much for the slow stuff.

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It sounds like the spiritual extension of "Empty Room" (which I'm also nuetral about and never understood the hype/love).

Orgers are being to critical of this stuff! If you enjoy it (I certainly do!), then enjoy it! If you want to bash it as crap with "horrible" mastering, learn how to mix, drive yo ass up to Paisley and you tell Prince that you can master it better than anyone else! I mean, sure, we all must have better song-writing credentials than PRince himself, whose career has spanned decades! Some of the stuff he has put out hasn't been entirely good, but give the guy a break! Pessimism is incurable on here sometimes, I swear XD

-PS, sorry for my pessimisn