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Thread started 03/24/14 8:49am

Vannormal

Strings in Fallinlove2nite !!

STRINGS !!!!

I love that.

I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...

They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...

Anyone heard this too ?

The song isn't his best, but it's well crafted and composed, and why not. He deserves a sunny spring/summer hit like this imho. Although people might prefer Funknroll more overhere in Europe I think. wink

WOuld love to hear some more remixes, longer version even.

Heard it on the radio today and you know what it sound perfect for radio.

Hell why not.

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Reply #1 posted 03/24/14 9:33am

ludwig

As i said in the other thread: Check out Madison Dube's vimeo-account and watch the video "The case of the stolen snare" that was shot at paisley park.

[Edited 3/24/14 9:34am]

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Reply #2 posted 03/24/14 10:03am

Daveoooo

as the per Prince Vault - STRINGenius

http://www.princevault.com/index.php/Fallinlove2nite

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Reply #3 posted 03/24/14 10:20am

EddieC

Daveoooo said:

as the per Prince Vault - STRINGenius

http://www.princevault.com/index.php/Fallinlove2nite

Yeah--what does that mean? Is it a person? A group? A program?

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Reply #4 posted 03/24/14 10:36am

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EddieC said:

Daveoooo said:

as the per Prince Vault - STRINGenius

http://www.princevault.com/index.php/Fallinlove2nite

Yeah--what does that mean? Is it a person? A group? A program?

Looks like STRINGenius is a two-person outfit who have done strings/arrangements and direct string musicians for a pretty notable list of artists. Prince is mentioned on this page -

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http://www.stringenius.com/aboutus.htm

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In the bio for Rebecca Arons.

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Reply #5 posted 03/24/14 10:46am

EddieC

Doozer said:

EddieC said:

Yeah--what does that mean? Is it a person? A group? A program?

Looks like STRINGenius is a two-person outfit who have done strings/arrangements and direct string musicians for a pretty notable list of artists. Prince is mentioned on this page -

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http://www.stringenius.com/aboutus.htm

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In the bio for Rebecca Arons.

Thanks--

I did a search when the credit first surfaced, but I didn't get any relevant results.

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Reply #6 posted 03/24/14 4:24pm

Vannormal

Another thing.

This production doesn't sound like it's done by Prince alone, again imho.


Could it be he collaborated (again) on this atypical Prince production sound to get a hit ?
It's a bit too smooth to be contemporary Prince somehow.. considering he's into his 3rdEyeGirl kind of production period and sound...

Like he did back in the day with TMBGTW (he teamed up for the smooth production with Ricky P if I'm not mistaken, and thàt you really can hear).

Again, thank U for the string info ! Very Interesting.
I do hope he's using strings more often. Excessively even.

It coloured up his black and white Parade era so beautifully.

Strings also really match with his voice imo.

[Edited 3/24/14 16:26pm]

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Reply #7 posted 03/24/14 4:51pm

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Vannormal said:

Another thing.

This production doesn't sound like it's done by Prince alone, again imho.


Could it be he collaborated (again) on this atypical Prince production sound to get a hit ?
It's a bit too smooth to be contemporary Prince somehow.. considering he's into his 3rdEyeGirl kind of production period and sound...

According to the song credits, Prince didn't produce it at all.

Josh Welton has the sole producers credit on the track - a first in Prince history.

[Edited 3/24/14 16:51pm]

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Reply #8 posted 03/24/14 5:10pm

Vannormal

Militant said:

Vannormal said:

Another thing.

This production doesn't sound like it's done by Prince alone, again imho.


Could it be he collaborated (again) on this atypical Prince production sound to get a hit ?
It's a bit too smooth to be contemporary Prince somehow.. considering he's into his 3rdEyeGirl kind of production period and sound...

According to the song credits, Prince didn't produce it at all.

Josh Welton has the sole producers credit on the track - a first in Prince history.

[Edited 3/24/14 16:51pm]

Thanks. I just overlooked it indeed. smile
Well, Josh Welton may do a complete album with Prince if he likes imho. smile

I'm longing for years now for Prince to give production to others..

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Reply #9 posted 03/24/14 5:23pm

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josh may of done the majority of the production, but no way did he do it without Prince input. I imagine prince gve him the full credit as a thank you or ego boost.

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Reply #10 posted 03/24/14 6:24pm

MrMoops

Vannormal said:

STRINGS !!!!

I love that.

I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...

They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...

Anyone heard this too ?

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Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.

I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,

and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.

You are correct that it is all real strings.

Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,

which is a world class ensemble.

-MBN

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Reply #11 posted 03/24/14 8:00pm

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MrMoops said:

Vannormal said:

STRINGS !!!!

I love that.

I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...

They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...

Anyone heard this too ?

-

Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.

I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,

and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.

You are correct that it is all real strings.

Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,

which is a world class ensemble.

-MBN

Thank you, Mr. Moops!! Fantastic job!

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Reply #12 posted 03/24/14 11:40pm

Vannormal

MrMoops said:



Vannormal said:


STRINGS !!!!


I love that.



I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...


They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...



Anyone heard this too ?





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Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.


I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,


and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.


You are correct that it is all real strings.


Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,


which is a world class ensemble.


-MBN




I bought the song and the quality of the strings are fantastisch. Great job indeed Mr. smile)) i only wish they were a bit bit more mixed to the front. I just love that.

Funk and strings go hand in hand imho.
Remember Chic ? I wish P would do a strings-funk dance album one day. Or work with Nile Rogers for that matter.

By the way, did they ever meet ? Imagine that... A collaboration with Prince and Nile Rogers ! My Dreams would come true in a tremendous wet dream for sure. smile)

By the way, Wendy and Lisa would also give great work with mr.. Rogers I think. How come they never met in studio otherwise. They sure all must've appreciated each otters music back in they day, no ?

I even cant recall Prince covering a Chic song live.. I think. Now that would be cool.
Come on 3rdEye, inspire Prince with old dance fonk !
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #13 posted 03/25/14 8:33am

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Militant said:

Vannormal said:

Another thing.

This production doesn't sound like it's done by Prince alone, again imho.


Could it be he collaborated (again) on this atypical Prince production sound to get a hit ?
It's a bit too smooth to be contemporary Prince somehow.. considering he's into his 3rdEyeGirl kind of production period and sound...

According to the song credits, Prince didn't produce it at all.

Josh Welton has the sole producers credit on the track - a first in Prince history.

[Edited 3/24/14 16:51pm]

That xplains it all: I was really disappointed by the "sound" of the track, which I find way too close to the generic dance u hear on the radio and quite unusual for Prince. The song has a great melody and, as we all agree with, the horns and strings are absolutely wonderful. Josh seems to impress Prince a lot (he already allowed him to remix some tracks last summer), I wonder how far this collab' will go smile

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Reply #14 posted 03/25/14 8:36am

paulludvig

MrMoops said:

Vannormal said:

STRINGS !!!!

I love that.

I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...

They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...

Anyone heard this too ?

-

Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.

I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,

and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.

You are correct that it is all real strings.

Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,

which is a world class ensemble.

-MBN

The video "The case of the stolen snare" features some lovely strings as well. Has that arrangement been featured on one of the recent releases or are there still a number of songs from those sessions that we haven't heard yet?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #15 posted 03/25/14 8:45am

Militant

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Vannormal said:

MrMoops said:

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Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.

I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,

and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.

You are correct that it is all real strings.

Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,

which is a world class ensemble.

-MBN

I bought the song and the quality of the strings are fantastisch. Great job indeed Mr. smile)) i only wish they were a bit bit more mixed to the front. I just love that. Funk and strings go hand in hand imho. Remember Chic ? I wish P would do a strings-funk dance album one day. Or work with Nile Rogers for that matter. By the way, did they ever meet ? Imagine that... A collaboration with Prince and Nile Rogers ! My Dreams would come true in a tremendous wet dream for sure. smile) By the way, Wendy and Lisa would also give great work with mr.. Rogers I think. How come they never met in studio otherwise. They sure all must've appreciated each otters music back in they day, no ? I even cant recall Prince covering a Chic song live.. I think. Now that would be cool. Come on 3rdEye, inspire Prince with old dance fonk !

Prince and Nile have met many times. Most recently, I believe they spent New Years Eve at the same party. Think Nile may have attended one of the London shows too, at Ronnie Scott's.

And Prince regularly covers "Le Freak", usually as a mash-up with "Sexy Dancer".

They've jammed together on stage too. 13th August, 1986. Nile and Ron Wood from Rolling Stones joined Prince on stage in London and they covered Bodyheat by James Brown.

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MrMoops said:

Vannormal said:

STRINGS !!!!

I love that.

I wonder who recorded the string section. It seems that these are real strings, and no synth parts...

They sure don't sound like Clare Fisher left overs to me...

Anyone heard this too ?

-

Prince had me produce the horn and string sessions for this track.

I wrote the horn arrangement and recorded it with the Hornheadz,

and worked with Adi Yeshaya on the string arrangement, recording it with STRINGenius.

You are correct that it is all real strings.

Many of the players on the session are from the Minnesota Orchestra,

which is a world class ensemble.

-MBN

Thanks for the info hug

Certainly not like Fischer leftovers but I'd say it sure sounds like Fischer in more than one aspect (at least in my humble opinion), which is the best compliment I could make to Mr. Yeshaya, i.e. to be able to manage to keep a continuity between his work and 25 years of Fischer arrangements in P's music and sound as good as Fischer. Thing is trying to make something completely different could have been nice as well, but Fischer's arrangements, like yours and Eric's, have a kind of symbiotic relationship to Prince's signature sound that makes them hard to replace (on the other hand who could have said in 1991 that someone could manage to become as essential to P's signature sound as Eric was at the time - and yet the Hornheads did it!). Now I'm really looking forward to hearing more of Adi Yeshaya's work in P's music in the years to come, and see how he will put more of his own style in P's music in the future. I've just checked and he's got an awesome CV, so he certainly won't live in the shadow of Mr. Fischer.

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Reply #17 posted 03/25/14 9:57am

Vannormal

Thank you very much for all that great info ! Much appreciated. smile
I didn't know that.
Im cetainly going to look for this show from 13th August, 1986. WOuld loooooove to see that, or at least hear it.

And it's true, I found out that indeed Prince plays Le Freak with the NPG background singers on vocals. Found that too. smile

Super !


Militant said:

Vannormal said:

MrMoops said: I bought the song and the quality of the strings are fantastisch. Great job indeed Mr. smile)) i only wish they were a bit bit more mixed to the front. I just love that. Funk and strings go hand in hand imho. Remember Chic ? I wish P would do a strings-funk dance album one day. Or work with Nile Rogers for that matter. By the way, did they ever meet ? Imagine that... A collaboration with Prince and Nile Rogers ! My Dreams would come true in a tremendous wet dream for sure. smile) By the way, Wendy and Lisa would also give great work with mr.. Rogers I think. How come they never met in studio otherwise. They sure all must've appreciated each otters music back in they day, no ? I even cant recall Prince covering a Chic song live.. I think. Now that would be cool. Come on 3rdEye, inspire Prince with old dance fonk !

Prince and Nile have met many times. Most recently, I believe they spent New Years Eve at the same party. Think Nile may have attended one of the London shows too, at Ronnie Scott's.

And Prince regularly covers "Le Freak", usually as a mash-up with "Sexy Dancer".

They've jammed together on stage too. 13th August, 1986. Nile and Ron Wood from Rolling Stones joined Prince on stage in London and they covered Bodyheat by James Brown.

[Edited 3/25/14 8:49am]

[Edited 3/25/14 9:58am]

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Reply #18 posted 03/26/14 1:10am

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[Edited 3/26/14 1:11am]

[Edited 3/27/14 1:25am]

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Reply #19 posted 03/26/14 10:43pm

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Fischer's arrangements, like yours and Eric's, have a kind of symbiotic relationship to Prince's signature sound that makes them hard to replace... Now I'm really looking forward to hearing more of Adi Yeshaya's work in P's music in the years to come



No disrespect to Mr. Yeshaya, but I don't look forward to more of Adi Yeshava's work in P's music for years to come because P still has the real deal available to him! Brent Fischer, who worked closely with his Dad on all of the countless arrangements Clare Fischer did for P, is alive & well and arranges strings in an almost unbelievably similar way to his dad Clare. Brent is so good that not only did ?uestlove seek out Brent to do the string arrangements for the Elvis Costello & The Roots album, he was so happy with the end result that he wrote a thank you to Brent in the liner notes that reads almost word for word like Prince's thank you to Clare Fischer on the Parade album.

I personally am looking forward to more Fischer arrangements on P's work in the future! Could Adi, or any other arranger for that matter, pull anything off even remotely as mind-blowing and creative (yes think back to the very first time you heard it) as Crystal Ball??? Nuf said. Case closed.
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databank said:

No disrespect to Mr. Yeshaya, but I don't look forward to more of Adi Yeshava's work in P's music for years to come because P still has the real deal available to him! Brent Fischer, who worked closely with his Dad on all of the countless arrangements Clare Fischer did for P, is alive & well and arranges strings in an almost unbelievably similar way to his dad Clare. Brent is so good that not only did ?uestlove seek out Brent to do the string arrangements for the Elvis Costello & The Roots album, he was so happy with the end result that he wrote a thank you to Brent in the liner notes that reads almost word for word like Prince's thank you to Clare Fischer on the Parade album. I personally am looking forward to more Fischer arrangements on P's work in the future! Could Adi, or any other arranger for that matter, pull anything off even remotely as mind-blowing and creative (yes think back to the very first time you heard it) as Crystal Ball??? Nuf said. Case closed.

Actually when Clare Fischer passed away I was expecting Brent to take over the strings in P's music, and the Case of the Stolen Snare came out, I was very surprised to see that P had chosen someone else.

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Reply #21 posted 03/27/14 2:00pm

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databank said:

plymouthavenuenorth said:

databank said:

Actually when Clare Fischer passed away I was expecting Brent to take over the strings in P's music, and the Case of the Stolen Snare came out, I was very surprised to see that P had chosen someone else.

Maybe PRN doesn't know about him. @MrMoops, tell our man to call Brent Fischer the next time you guys are working on an arrangement. I would love to see what the next generation Fischer could do on a Prince song if he really arranges that much like his dad.

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