1725topp said:

If Prince did not want another Hit... then why would he still be pushing for exposure?

In his music, he always seems to personally battle with looking for true happiness, like there must be a formula to it. I think we all do, a little. In and out of relationships, music styles, personas, religions....

No matter how famous a person becomes, and or rich, there can still always be this hungry void within.

I think, having a hit, makes him happy. Plain and simple. No need to over think this thing. He has the fame and the money and the fans who adore him, but I guess he gets bored with that. (Of course we all get bored, and need something to wake for.)

He's just a man. Has the same emotional garbage as the rest of us.

People, give me a break! The last thing I am concerned about in life is my choice of music being validated and I'm not a "popularity" chaser by any means. My participation in the chart thread was the result of one thing- my desire for Prince to see his work appreciated. That's it, plain and simple. I think it's ridiculous to call fans "weak" because they want their favorite artist to succeed. How dare we! Even if FIL2N made it to #1 it in no way affects my life, but it would be a great moment for Prince and I won't be made to feel any less a fan because I'd like to see that happen for HIM- not me- HIM!

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Bambi82 said:

People, give me a break! The last thing I am concerned about in life is my choice of music being validated and I'm not a "popularity" chaser by any means. My participation in the chart thread was the result of one thing- my desire for Prince to see his work appreciated. That's it, plain and simple. I think it's ridiculous to call fans "weak" because they want their favorite artist to succeed. How dare we! Even if FIL2N made it to #1 it in no way affects my life, but it would be a great moment for Prince and I won't be made to feel any less a fan because I'd like to see that happen for HIM- not me- HIM!

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First, I like the positive energy that you bring to this site. There is so much negative energy on this site, which is why I don't post here nearly as much as I once did. Second, Prince, like any artist, must sell a certain amount of art to feed himself and maintain a certain level of popularity so that fans can have access to his art. Of course, with the advent of internet, one is not required to sell as many units as prior to the internet to allow fans access to one's art. So, I am well aware that Prince, like any artist, must sell his work just so that fans, like me, can have access to more of his art. But, as another poster has already stated, Prince's career, which was well-established prior to Purple Rain, was never about chart-topping hits, per se. Yes, he wanted to sell records, but he was equally interested in or often more interested in creating an alternative sound built on mastering and amalgamating many different sounds into his own, unique sound with his message of individuality, which created for him a niche or "cult" following, for lack of a better term. Of course, the success of Purple Rain changed all this, and since that moment Prince, himself, as remained at war with those (fans, record executives, DJs, journalists) who have tried to define for him what success is, which is represented by his statement on TRL, "When everybody else goes left, I go right". So, the issue for Prince has not been just about having a hit, but having a hit on his terms. Now many, like myself, who have been Prince fans since 1978 still disagree on this point, but even with Purple Rain Prince did not so much cross over to the pop charts but the pop charts crossed over to him. And once the mainstream crossed over to Prince, he responded by taking the road less traveled and releasing Around the World in a Day and Parade. After the so-called "comeback success" of SOTT, Prince responded by releasing Lovesexy. After the commercial success of Batman, Prince responded by releasing Graffiti Bridge. After the so-called "comeback success" of Diamonds and Pearls, Prince responded by changing his name to an unpronounceable symbol and releasing an album titled of the same, unpronounceable symbol. And, this pattern continues today. As such, I am not knocking you, personally, for wanting Prince's work to "do well," but I just think that basing whether or not the work "does well" on its chart position seems to miss the point of what Prince's career has been. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "weak," but, for instance, 2013 was a hell of a year with a limited but great tour and some solid to good songs. Regardless of chart position, Prince's work moved me during 2013, and that's enough for me regardless of the people who complain that the songs were not released properly or that Prince was not on the charts. Yes, Prince is probably missing the opportunity to add new/younger fans, but, as shown above, Prince's entire career has included him snubbing or limiting his commercial success by doing what he wants to do, how he wants to do it. Why anyone would expect that to change now is beyond me.

hollywooddove said:

If Prince did not want another Hit... then why would he still be pushing for exposure?

In his music, he always seems to personally battle with looking for true happiness, like there must be a formula to it. I think we all do, a little. In and out of relationships, music styles, personas, religions....

No matter how famous a person becomes, and or rich, there can still always be this hungry void within.

I think, having a hit, makes him happy. Plain and simple. No need to over think this thing. He has the fame and the money and the fans who adore him, but I guess he gets bored with that. (Of course we all get bored, and need something to wake for.)

He's just a man. Has the same emotional garbage as the rest of us.

1999/2000 Rave period seemd like he wanted hits (especially with all the collaborations)

but 2001/2002 Rainbow Children -One Night Alone, he was definately not trying to get hits on the radio/videos etc etc

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But with Musicology he on a different level from Rave was putting out a album for commercial success.

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During the 1999 album he said something about not wanting awards, but then in 1986 when he did get an award he changed his tune(I'll locate the quotes)

1725topp said:

Bambi82 said:

People, give me a break! The last thing I am concerned about in life is my choice of music being validated and I'm not a "popularity" chaser by any means. My participation in the chart thread was the result of one thing- my desire for Prince to see his work appreciated. That's it, plain and simple. I think it's ridiculous to call fans "weak" because they want their favorite artist to succeed. How dare we! Even if FIL2N made it to #1 it in no way affects my life, but it would be a great moment for Prince and I won't be made to feel any less a fan because I'd like to see that happen for HIM- not me- HIM!

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First, I like the positive energy that you bring to this site. There is so much negative energy on this site, which is why I don't post here nearly as much as I once did. Second, Prince, like any artist, must sell a certain amount of art to feed himself and maintain a certain level of popularity so that fans can have access to his art. Of course, with the advent of internet, one is not required to sell as many units as prior to the internet to allow fans access to one's art. So, I am well aware that Prince, like any artist, must sell his work just so that fans, like me, can have access to more of his art. But, as another poster has already stated, Prince's career, which was well-established prior to Purple Rain, was never about chart-topping hits, per se. Yes, he wanted to sell records, but he was equally interested in or often more interested in creating an alternative sound built on mastering and amalgamating many different sounds into his own, unique sound with his message of individuality, which created for him a niche or "cult" following, for lack of a better term. Of course, the success of Purple Rain changed all this, and since that moment Prince, himself, as remained at war with those (fans, record executives, DJs, journalists) who have tried to define for him what success is, which is represented by his statement on TRL, "When everybody else goes left, I go right". So, the issue for Prince has not been just about having a hit, but having a hit on his terms. Now many, like myself, who have been Prince fans since 1978 still disagree on this point, but even with Purple Rain Prince did not so much cross over to the pop charts but the pop charts crossed over to him. And once the mainstream crossed over to Prince, he responded by taking the road less traveled and releasing Around the World in a Day and Parade. After the so-called "comeback success" of SOTT, Prince responded by releasing Lovesexy. After the commercial success of Batman, Prince responded by releasing Graffiti Bridge. After the so-called "comeback success" of Diamonds and Pearls, Prince responded by changing his name to an unpronounceable symbol and releasing an album titled of the same, unpronounceable symbol. And, this pattern continues today. As such, I am not knocking you, personally, for wanting Prince's work to "do well," but I just think that basing whether or not the work "does well" on its chart position seems to miss the point of what Prince's career has been. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "weak," but, for instance, 2013 was a hell of a year with a limited but great tour and some solid to good songs. Regardless of chart position, Prince's work moved me during 2013, and that's enough for me regardless of the people who complain that the songs were not released properly or that Prince was not on the charts. Yes, Prince is probably missing the opportunity to add new/younger fans, but, as shown above, Prince's entire career has included him snubbing or limiting his commercial success by doing what he wants to do, how he wants to do it. Why anyone would expect that to change now is beyond me.

First, thank you for the compliment, I appreciate that.

Listen, I get it. I'm in no way saying that his music is somehow less important if it doesn't do well on the charts. I'm not a "Purple Rain" only fan, some of my favorite songs are the ones non-fans haven't heard. I've actually had to laugh at several people for asking me, "what are you listening to!?" and when I tell them they'll say something along the line of, "well I've never heard it so it must not be very good" or "I only like his popular songs".. so in those instances, I feel the same as you, those songs are important to me and to me they are successful. I also understand that Prince has had a wierd love-hate relationship with success, but there's no way he's never wanted his songs to be "big". He wouldn't be living the life that he does had they not. I always felt like he, by switching up his sound so many times, was just trying to see where he could lead people. Like, "Okay, you dig this.. try this on" kwim? Also, if you're in the business and you want your work heard, is there ever TOO big an audience? I can't imagine him being upset that his songs do well on the charts because that means more people are able to enjoy his vision. I don't think every song or album he's put out was meant or expected to be big hits but that's what artists do. That's why actors will sometimes play a role that they are well aware their fans won't approve of, because it's for them.. but next thing you know they're filming that same ol' cookie cutter movie that they know will keep their pockets lined. I don't know..l can scarcely fathom the idea that musicians, authors, artists, directors, etc. would bother to release anything to the public if they didn't want as many people as possible to experience (and hopefully enjoy) it

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stolenlove said:

Bambi82 said:

I'm not sure what race has to do with it.

White people don't accept black music nowadays. Only if it's pop friendly. Real urban artists don't have a chance anymore There's no black artists on the top 40 anymore. Hasn't been for years...

I just checked, half of the top 10 this week is by black artists.

1725topp said:

alandail said:

stolenlove said:

White people don't accept black music nowadays. Only if it's pop friendly. Real urban artists don't have a chance anymore There's no black artists on the top 40 anymore. Hasn't been for years...

I just checked, half of the top 10 this week is by black artists.

don't give in to stolenloves flaming posts, that was just to get people rilled up

He's not going to get a hit unless he waters his music down to sound like today's mainstream music so the last thing I want from him is a hit and I wish he would stop even attempting to get one. He's got a big enough loyal fanbase to keep him living comfortably so make music for them and stop trying to gain new fans because every time he gains new fans, he starts putting a track or two of a shit hop and neo stool nature on the albums to try to keep them around.

Bambi82 said:

1725topp said:

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First, I like the positive energy that you bring to this site. There is so much negative energy on this site, which is why I don't post here nearly as much as I once did. Second, Prince, like any artist, must sell a certain amount of art to feed himself and maintain a certain level of popularity so that fans can have access to his art. Of course, with the advent of internet, one is not required to sell as many units as prior to the internet to allow fans access to one's art. So, I am well aware that Prince, like any artist, must sell his work just so that fans, like me, can have access to more of his art. But, as another poster has already stated, Prince's career, which was well-established prior to Purple Rain, was never about chart-topping hits, per se. Yes, he wanted to sell records, but he was equally interested in or often more interested in creating an alternative sound built on mastering and amalgamating many different sounds into his own, unique sound with his message of individuality, which created for him a niche or "cult" following, for lack of a better term. Of course, the success of Purple Rain changed all this, and since that moment Prince, himself, as remained at war with those (fans, record executives, DJs, journalists) who have tried to define for him what success is, which is represented by his statement on TRL, "When everybody else goes left, I go right". So, the issue for Prince has not been just about having a hit, but having a hit on his terms. Now many, like myself, who have been Prince fans since 1978 still disagree on this point, but even with Purple Rain Prince did not so much cross over to the pop charts but the pop charts crossed over to him. And once the mainstream crossed over to Prince, he responded by taking the road less traveled and releasing Around the World in a Day and Parade. After the so-called "comeback success" of SOTT, Prince responded by releasing Lovesexy. After the commercial success of Batman, Prince responded by releasing Graffiti Bridge. After the so-called "comeback success" of Diamonds and Pearls, Prince responded by changing his name to an unpronounceable symbol and releasing an album titled of the same, unpronounceable symbol. And, this pattern continues today. As such, I am not knocking you, personally, for wanting Prince's work to "do well," but I just think that basing whether or not the work "does well" on its chart position seems to miss the point of what Prince's career has been. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "weak," but, for instance, 2013 was a hell of a year with a limited but great tour and some solid to good songs. Regardless of chart position, Prince's work moved me during 2013, and that's enough for me regardless of the people who complain that the songs were not released properly or that Prince was not on the charts. Yes, Prince is probably missing the opportunity to add new/younger fans, but, as shown above, Prince's entire career has included him snubbing or limiting his commercial success by doing what he wants to do, how he wants to do it. Why anyone would expect that to change now is beyond me.

First, thank you for the compliment, I appreciate that.

Listen, I get it. I'm in no way saying that his music is somehow less important if it doesn't do well on the charts. I'm not a "Purple Rain" only fan, some of my favorite songs are the ones non-fans haven't heard. I've actually had to laugh at several people for asking me, "what are you listening to!?" and when I tell them they'll say something along the line of, "well I've never heard it so it must not be very good" or "I only like his popular songs".. so in those instances, I feel the same as you, those songs are important to me and to me they are successful. I also understand that Prince has had a wierd love-hate relationship with success, but there's no way he's never wanted his songs to be "big". He wouldn't be living the life that he does had they not. I always felt like he, by switching up his sound so many times, was just trying to see where he could lead people. Like, "Okay, you dig this.. try this on" kwim? Also, if you're in the business and you want your work heard, is there ever TOO big an audience? I can't imagine him being upset that his songs do well on the charts because that means more people are able to enjoy his vision. I don't think every song or album he's put out was meant or expected to be big hits but that's what artists do. That's why actors will sometimes play a role that they are well aware their fans won't approve of, because it's for them.. but next thing you know they're filming that same ol' cookie cutter movie that they know will keep their pockets lined. I don't know..l can scarcely fathom the idea that musicians, authors, artists, directors, etc. would bother to release anything to the public if they didn't want as many people as possible to experience (and hopefully enjoy) it

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I agree with the vast majority of what you have stated. I will only add to your last statement that often certain artists do realize that there are smaller audiences for certain types of art. It's not a question, so much, of them not wanting a "large" amount of people to dig it, whatever either of us defines as "large," but the artist will know that the track record for that particular kind of art has a limited or smaller audience, but the artist will create/release that art simply because one is moved by it, regardless of the limited appeal. As a writer (fiction/poetry) there are some works that I write knowing that they will only be published in literary journals, which has a small niche audience, and there are other works that can be published in more mainstream magazines that, of course, have a wider appeal/reading audience than strictly literary journals. And, it seems that this navigation, if you will, is par the course for many artists, including Prince.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

1725topp said:

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And what has been a sad realization for me over these past thirty so years of being a Prince fan is how wrong I have been by initially thinking that no one who is a Prince fan would be this mentally weak because Prince, himself, has always placed his desire to make the music he wants above charting. That is the only reason one releases Around the World in a Day immediately after Purple Rain or releases "If I Was Your Girlfriend" just when SOTT is building chart momentum. For years I thought that weak, popularity chasers could never be Prince fans, but the org has disproved this to me.

Prince used a mainstream tv show to promote Fallinluv2nite, hackneyed a popular actress for extra appeal and the song itself is so insipidly commercial too. Anybody that thinks Prince doesn't want it to be a hit is kidding themselves. Maybe he's mentally weak?

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I never said that Prince didn't want a hit, however one defines it. I said that Prince's career has not been defined by his complete pursuit of hits, and, as such, that has made me a fan of his because of the eclectic music that he has been able to produce because he has been just as concerned, if not more concerned, with creating a variety of music as he has been concerned with creating hits. Now, of course, we can disagree on the song. While I don't view "Fallinluv2nite" as a great song, I don't view it as a bad or horrible song. But, that's just me. Again, I like that Prince creates all types/varieties of songs. Yes, my preference is for rock and funk, but, truth be told, Prince has been a pop artist his entire career because one of his greatest assets is his ability to take so many edgy/non-mainstream sounds and make them radio friendly. As Bootsy Collins stated, "Prince made funk legal." Therefore, the weak people are the ones who hate Prince's music since (add any year) but still come to this site and complain how much they hate his music rather than finding someone else that moves them.

vainandy said:

He's not going to get a hit unless he waters his music down to sound like today's mainstream music so the last thing I want from him is a hit and I wish he would stop even attempting to get one. He's got a big enough loyal fanbase to keep him living comfortably so make music for them and stop trying to gain new fans because every time he gains new fans, he starts putting a track or two of a shit hop and neo stool nature on the albums to try to keep them around.

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I understand and agree with you to an extent, but another aspect of Prince's personality, especially his artistic personality, is to try/explore/integrate new sounds into his body of work. This has been true of him since day one. Now, we can debate/argue whether or not he does it for artistic expression or whether he does it to chase hits, but it seems that Prince has always been the type of artist intrigued by new sounds, and he attempts to add or amalgamate them into his sound, even if he is unable to master them. And, yes, I do, too, think that some sounds are better left not incorporated into his sound, but, again, his history seems to be that he will incorporate or try to amalgamate almost any sound, seemingly because that's just who he is as an artist. I think this is the ride for which many of us signed to take thirty years ago, and as smooth and exhilarating as the ride can be, history shows that it can be a very bumpy ride as well. But, for me, the highs continue to be far greater than the lows.

vainandy said:

He's not going to get a hit unless he waters his music down to sound like today's mainstream music so the last thing I want from him is a hit and I wish he would stop even attempting to get one. He's got a big enough loyal fanbase to keep him living comfortably so make music for them and stop trying to gain new fans because every time he gains new fans, he starts putting a track or two of a shit hop and neo stool nature on the albums to try to keep them around.

even though I agree with 99% of your post, he gains new fans all the time. People who discover the Prince we know. People who are going back and digging in2 that Prince that was extremely fresh and experimental. The music/boots/live shows that his foundation was built on.

vainandy said:

He's not going to get a hit unless he waters his music down to sound like today's mainstream music so the last thing I want from him is a hit and I wish he would stop even attempting to get one. He's got a big enough loyal fanbase to keep him living comfortably so make music for them and stop trying to gain new fans because every time he gains new fans, he starts putting a track or two of a shit hop and neo stool nature on the albums to try to keep them around.

Prince has a "loyal fanbase"? Have you been on this site before?

HonestMan13 said:

Prince has a "loyal fanbase"? Have you been on this site before?

But still he can sell out 10K plus halls in days with no real promotion. (Antwerp 2010...)

Maybe not everywhere.

Maybe not in 2014.

But still. Who are all those people?

The first few 100 people are the more or less hardcore fans.

What type of people are the other 9+K?

1725topp said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

1725topp said:

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I never said that Prince didn't want a hit, however one defines it. I said that Prince's career has not been defined by his complete pursuit of hits, and, as such, that has made me a fan of his because of the eclectic music that he has been able to produce because he has been just as concerned, if not more concerned, with creating a variety of music as he has been concerned with creating hits. Now, of course, we can disagree on the song. While I don't view "Fallinluv2nite" as a great song, I don't view it as a bad or horrible song. But, that's just me. Again, I like that Prince creates all types/varieties of songs. Yes, my preference is for rock and funk, but, truth be told, Prince has been a pop artist his entire career because one of his greatest assets is his ability to take so many edgy/non-mainstream sounds and make them radio friendly. As Bootsy Collins stated, "Prince made funk legal." Therefore, the weak people are the ones who hate Prince's music since (add any year) but still come to this site and complain how much they hate his music rather than finding someone else that moves them.

I am only a fan of Prince because of his eclecticism. During his most creative years he found the perfect blend of catchiness embellished with radical production which gave him a constant presence in the mainstream. He was consciously making music that was designed to subvert from within. That was the genius of Prince. Fallinluv2nite has a great verse to it but the production is too corny to continue that legacy, even if it were to be a hit. I ask nothing of Prince but to strive to be original. Otherwise what's the point?

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What one person calls "corny" another person calls "catchy," "bouncy," "danceable". Also, while I understand what you are saying, the notion of "striving to be original" can be a slippery slope, especially when people as old as us remember our parents, uncles, and aunts saying, "Prince ain't doing nothing but ripping off James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Sly Stone, and Little Richard". Even at his most original, one could still taste the definite/specific flavors that he was amalgamating into his sound. Moreover, if one didn't like one of those flavors, one would taste/hear it more definitively. For instance, I hate house and techno music, so every time Prince uses house or techno I tend to hate the song, which is also why the Nude Tour has one of my least favorite openings because of the use of house/techno through the opening fifteen/twenty minutes. Thus, for Prince, being original is not that he created something that was never heard, per se, but that he was a genius at weaving, blending, amalgamating various sounds into a definitive sound. Therefore, what I like most about "Fallinluv2nite" is the hint/use of the "Little Red Corvette" snare drum beat that begins around the 42 second mark, which gives the song a soulful flavor. Yes, it's faint and does not make it a great song, but just that little ingredient gives me the kick that I need to bounce my head and sway my shoulders. As such, he has given me another fun groove that makes me dance with one really nice lyric ("the moon threatening to dance her out of her shoes), even if most of the lyrics are unmemorable. Finally, I have never understood the notion of continuing or harming one's legacy. After a certain point, one's legacy is what it is. No matter how one rates "Fallinluv2nite," it can do nothing to Prince's legacy. As I've said before, there are some songs from the eighties that are dreadful, but they don't tarnish Prince's legacy either. Like it or hate it, "Fallinluv2nite" will do nothing to harm Prince's legacy. And, at the same time, there are several songs that I love over the past ten years, and while they may be affirmation of his genius or continued genius the legacy of his genius was already established. Most great writers have only one "great" novel, or play, or collection of poetry, yet rarely do the other dozens of substandard works they produced keep us from teaching them in the university. The point for Prince is that he loves to make music. Sometimes it's great; sometimes it's not great. But, it being rated as great is rarely an empirical/absolute thing. If it were, I would not prefer "Fallinluv2nite" to "I Wonder U," which I have always hated, even though so many people think it is excellent. In fact, just thinking of "I Wonder U" makes me want to hit myself in the head with a brick so that I will no longer hear it. Yet, my feelings toward "I Wonder U," especially having to sit through it live, does not cause me to discredit Prince's genius or wonder what is the point of his making music. I love everything else on Parade except that song so I just skip it.

1725topp said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Gwen Stefani has insisted that she is driven to writing songs which will have mass appeal.The singer, who has fronted No Doubt for more than two decades, told Elle magazine that she has no pretensions when it comes to crafting a popular hit."Why wouldn't you want that many people listening to the songs that you wrote? There's no way to go back after you have had it," Stefani said. "So the intentions of even the solo records were always about trying to write those guilty-pleasure albums that just get in your head and you can't get out. I'm not cool, I'm not into the B-sides."The 'Sweet Escape' star also revealed that she was once given some very valuable advice from legendary popstar Prince. She explained: "Prince, who is one of my idols, gave me some advice when I worked with him, 'Have you ever just tried writing a hit? Like, don't just try writing a song, try and write a hit song'. I remember him saying that and me thinking, 'Yeah, you're right. Why would you write anything else?'"

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a313568/gwen-stefani-prince-told-me-to-write-hits.html

Bambi82 said:

Gwen Stefani has insisted that she is driven to writing songs which will have mass appeal.The singer, who has fronted No Doubt for more than two decades, told Elle magazine that she has no pretensions when it comes to crafting a popular hit."Why wouldn't you want that many people listening to the songs that you wrote? There's no way to go back after you have had it," Stefani said. "So the intentions of even the solo records were always about trying to write those guilty-pleasure albums that just get in your head and you can't get out. I'm not cool, I'm not into the B-sides."The 'Sweet Escape' star also revealed that she was once given some very valuable advice from legendary popstar Prince. She explained: "Prince, who is one of my idols, gave me some advice when I worked with him, 'Have you ever just tried writing a hit? Like, don't just try writing a song, try and write a hit song'. I remember him saying that and me thinking, 'Yeah, you're right. Why would you write anything else?'"

http://www.digitalspy.com/music/news/a313568/gwen-stefani-prince-told-me-to-write-hits.html

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Prince also told Beyonce that she needed to learn how to play an instrument to be more of a complete artist. In fact, he began her lessons right there on the spot by teaching her some notes and chords. The combination of the advice he gave to Stefani and the advice he gave to Beyonce just shows that Prince has the ability to understand what one needs to become more of a holistic or well-rounded artist/entertainer. Stefani had artistic depth and needed hits while Beyounce had hits but needed more artistic depth. Again, no one is saying that Prince has never desired to write hits. However, Prince's career has been more about artistic variety than hits, and judging Prince on how many hits he has or on his latest hit misses the point about Prince's career or body of work.

Thanks God he doesn`t do hits anymore... Hits are usually crap and so boring...Prince is not about mainstream music anymore, he knows it and I`m so glad that my favorite artist is an independent and underground ish musician. Orgers, U make me laugh really...Wanna see P along Gaga, K.West and all that shit music on chartlists? Please!

Regarding Prince wanting a hit... I think he knows that it takes more than a good song to get one: it takes a good (i.e. commercial more than artistically good) song AND 4 million bucks in promotion (he said back then that he'd put 2 million of his own money for TMBGITW back in 94, so with inflation I guess it takes 4 now) AND the media being willing to play the game (TV playing the vid, radios playing the song, magazines doing interviews, etc.), which even with millions in promo they're not always so keen on doing - see the Carmen fiasco even though WB reportedly spent 2 millions in promo (by the way I wonder where that money went because in France at least there absolutely ZERO media coverage of any sorts when that album came out).

So now is Prince or even a major such as Sony willing to spend so much money and energy on promoting a song, in a context when records sales have dropped of about 75% since the mid-90's? I don't think so. Sure he wants exposure and sure the released Weldon remix of FIL2N is obviously targetting Kylie Minogue's audience, but I think P and Sony are more about doing decent digital sales and a decent charts position than about getting a major worldwide hit à la TMBGITW. Now of course I may be wrong and he may make a vid for FIL2N and do his best to push the song and Sony may be willing to spend the money, but the last time Prince really ever hoped and tried to have a worldwide single hit was TGRES in 99 if u ask me. Ever since I couldn't say that so much effort has been put into a single, even with Musicology and 3121.

1725topp said: