blackbob said:

lets get this straight...prince doesnt "need" another hit..he is already a music legend...but he "wants" a hit record..this is clear from what he has said in interviews..there are a number of reasons why he would like another hit..probably not least a f.u to all the people who turned their back on him when he went independent back in 96 and radio stopped playing his songs..

now the problem he has is his fanbase dont really download mp3 tracks in any great number...they still buy actual albums in good numbers..but they dont buy these downloads which are needed nowadays to have a hit...the only way prince will have a hit is if he can get the younger people who do buy these downloads to purchase his mp3's...and the only way that his going to happen is doing exactly what in has done..release something catchy with a popular figure who appeals to the younger generation..its a very dumbed down track for prince but his really good stuff would never appeal to a mass audience so this throwaway track is what might appeal to kids who decide what is in the charts...

it might not work but i really feel if this doesnt chart then prince will never have another hit record...but he has had more than just about anyone else so its no big deal for me..

[Edited 3/18/14 3:13am]

I couldn't agree more regarding your comment about him not having another chart hit if this fails to make a significant impact. I gather we are referring to The Official Charts Company in the UK and not some random, less relevant, genre-specific chart?

Since when is the rest of his career riding on this one song??

Bambi82 said:

Since when is the rest of his career riding on this one song??

Since far too long.

Validation.

When orgers talk about Prince needing a hit or trying to get a hit I tend to think they want it more for their own personal validation. Prince doesn't need a hit song/hit CD to pack arenas. He's proven that over the past few years of doing shows/tours with no CD to promote and still selling out nights. Fans want their friends to think the artists they follow are cool(and themselves by extension) and mainstream and that means hits/charts and radio plays.

HonestMan13 said:

ilo said:

People are interested in Prince having a hit/popularity because it then justifies their choice of artist and in turn justifies themself to others. It's a weakness of mankind: concerned with how we are seen as opposed to being true to our self.

There is an element of that for sure. We all want to see him bask in the glory of appreciation.. I remember the last time Prince was in the mainstream during Diamonds And Pearls..hearing adverts for the album on the radio and all that. If he had a hit today that would just feel really strange and exciting, to have people talk about him...I hope it does happen again, no matter how dumbed down the charts are these days.

[Edited 3/18/14 6:17am]

Gunsnhalen said:

Prince has always been innovative in his music.

Pffft. Yeah right.

And beyond Purple Rain never had a ''huge'' album per say. Sure he had hits here and there pre and post Purple Rain. But he wasn't selling huge numbers and at one time didn't want to.

Dude, Prince DESPERATELY wanted a hit with D&P, hence him working endlessly on that album and touring it for months. He wanted Emancipation to be a hit, hence him doing TWO DAYS of interviews. He wanted Rave to be a hit. He records songs that sound like Black Eyed Peas B-Sides just to get a hit.

Remember this is the guy who came out with Around The World In A Day out of nowhere. This was a pre itunes and twitter era. Way before i was born... he wanted the album to be heard for the entire concept. Not one song... and he wasn't caring about the charts. So the fans shouldn't care either

That was THIRTY YEARS AGO.

Prince hasn't had a hit since 1996. He probably will never have another hit. And that's fine, cause hits and numbers don't mean shit in the long run. Let the little short mofo make his crappy songs... and sometimes good songs. And not worry about the charts. It's all about the music anyways.

That's not how Prince sees it. Not famz who desperately want to brag about their hero.

MattyJam said:

I personally couldn't care less about Prince having another hit. What I do find intriguing though is his apparent inability to achieve one in the last 15 years (and that's being generous, his last real hit was 1994, 20 years ago).

I think it's obvious that Prince wants another hit record, but for some reason it ain't happening for him....

Because his songs simply aren't good enough.

HonestMan13 said:

When orgers talk about Prince needing a hit or trying to get a hit I tend to think they want it more for their own personal validation. Prince doesn't need a hit song/hit CD to pack arenas. He's proven that over the past few years of doing shows/tours with no CD to promote and still selling out nights.

Except in LA. And that 3EG club tour was a disaster too. Ditto for London when he played in a large club and started charging £70.

Bambi82 said:

stolenlove said:

Of course! white people love black music. They steal it.. so they must. But no black folks are fucking with metal.

And with this post you have now revealed your complete ignorance. Congratulations. Nothing you say from here on out will hold any merit.

thats why its good for these people to post their nonsense....shows whats inside

BartVanHemelen said:

MattyJam said:

I personally couldn't care less about Prince having another hit. What I do find intriguing though is his apparent inability to achieve one in the last 15 years (and that's being generous, his last real hit was 1994, 20 years ago).

I think it's obvious that Prince wants another hit record, but for some reason it ain't happening for him....

Because his songs simply aren't good enough.

come on...even u know thats got NOTHING to do with hits

Gunsnhalen said:

I see a lot of people talking about ''Prince has next big hit'' and y'all posted all the itunes charts with Breakfest Can Wait. It's starting to look like an MJ, Janet, Rihanna, or Beyonce fan site. MJ, Rihoe, Janet and Mariah fans are obsessed with stats. And what does that actually say about the music? NOT A DAMN THING

Prince has always been innovative in his music. And beyond Purple Rain never had a ''huge'' album per say. Sure he had hits here and there pre and post Purple Rain. But he wasn't selling huge numbers and at one time didn't want to. Remember this is the guy who came out with Around The World In A Day out of nowhere. This was a pre itunes and twitter era. Way before i was born... he wanted the album to be heard for the entire concept. Not one song... and he wasn't caring about the charts. So the fans shouldn't care either

Prince hasn't had a hit since 1996. He probably will never have another hit. And that's fine, cause hits and numbers don't mean shit in the long run. Let the little short mofo make his crappy songs... and sometimes good songs. And not worry about the charts. It's all about the music anyways.

I see 2 (pathetic) reasons 4 that:

1/ Social recognition: my fave artist is #1, i.e. popular, so my musical tastes r good and people will respect me 4 that. Of course that's OK if u work at Walmart but in some circles it's obviously the opposite, and a good hipster will know how to dose some well known but acclaimed musicians with a majority of less known or unknown artists in order to be socially relevant.

2/ Brainwashing: people have been brainwashed for so long by the media that they believe that commercial success and topping the charts = quality music, when nowadays it usually means exactly the opposite: in other words Prince doesn't have hits because his music is bad and if his music was good he'd have hits, and that's the basic mathematic rule of musical quality.

A third possible reason could be anger at the system for making poor music popular and good music such as Prince's unpopular through despicable marketing and the complicity of majors, radios and TV channels, but then people wouldn't be mad at Prince and would on the contrary support his artistic choices, so I think that's hardly ever the reason.

I for one don't give a FUCK whether Prince's current music charts or not, since it wouldn't change anything in my ability to enjoy it when I listen to it.

It totally depresses me, to be honest, that people may be THAT confused

robertgeorgeakabob said:

HonestMan13 said:

When orgers talk about Prince needing a hit or trying to get a hit I tend to think they want it more for their own personal validation. Prince doesn't need a hit song/hit CD to pack arenas. He's proven that over the past few years of doing shows/tours with no CD to promote and still selling out nights. Fans want their friends to think the artists they follow are cool(and themselves by extension) and mainstream and that means hits/charts and radio plays.

When did the 'mainstream' become viewed as cool? That's a new one to me!

U're probably abhipster and God bless u for that, but everytime I venture outside of hip circles I realize how brainwashed people are. I've heard people bragging about digging Celine Dion and stuff like that, everything that's in the top 10, or people booing a DJ because he'd play songs that weren't top 10 hits, or people looking at me as if I was a freak because I'd told them I liked jazz, contemporary music or ambient. Beware of non-hipsters: they're weird and dangerous!

purplethunder3121 said:

This isn't a troll thread. It's a legit question. Which i have gotten some decent answers to.

databank said:

I think Prince has always wanted to make good music first and sometimes wants hits.

I'm really turned off and disappointed by this chase for the charts. He spends over a year promoting 3EG, gets a front cover of Mojo under the banner 'Prince Rocks' and then he chooses to promote this kiddydancepop 'Fallinlove2nite'?

Where's his self respect? Seems weirdly desperate for some reason.

[Edited 3/19/14 8:17am]

robertgeorgeakabob said:

HonestMan13 said:

When orgers talk about Prince needing a hit or trying to get a hit I tend to think they want it more for their own personal validation. Prince doesn't need a hit song/hit CD to pack arenas. He's proven that over the past few years of doing shows/tours with no CD to promote and still selling out nights. Fans want their friends to think the artists they follow are cool(and themselves by extension) and mainstream and that means hits/charts and radio plays.

When did the 'mainstream' become viewed as cool? That's a new one to me!

There are hundreds of threads on here where people say Prince isn't relevant to the mainstream. Whatever that means.

Marrk said:

I'm really turned off and disappointed by this chase for the charts. He spends over a year promoting 3EG, gets a front cover of Mojo under the banner 'Prince Rocks' and then he chooses to promote this kiddydancepop 'Fallinlove2nite'?

Where's his self respect? Seems weirdly desperate for some reason.

[Edited 3/19/14 8:17am]

strike while the kiddiepopdance is gaining attention...

HonestMan13 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

HonestMan13 said: When did the 'mainstream' become viewed as cool? That's a new one to me!

There are hundreds of threads on here where people say Prince isn't relevant to the mainstream. Whatever that means.

Mainstream isn't cool anymore when you start to think and/or get older.

BobGeorge909 said:

we like to share experiences to curb the loneliness our social mind fears.

I don't think we need hits for that.

Hits define mostly commercial entities.

We just need good music. Played live.

udo said:

BobGeorge909 said:

udo said:

I don't think we need hits for that.

Hits define mostly commercial entities.

We just need good music. Played live.

Not everyone enjoys or can or afford live music.

I can understand.

Please note that price level versus e.g. €100 for a ticket in Europe. See it as an indication of the true exchange rate of this time. Also downgrade for lower average earnings of the sub-1% people.

So hopefully for those people the next US tour will be somewhat cheaper.

udo said:

ilo said:

People are interested in Prince having a hit/popularity because it then justifies their choice of artist and in turn justifies themself to others. It's a weakness of mankind: concerned with how we are seen as opposed to being true to our self.

*

And what has been a sad realization for me over these past thirty so years of being a Prince fan is how wrong I have been by initially thinking that no one who is a Prince fan would be this mentally weak because Prince, himself, has always placed his desire to make the music he wants above charting. That is the only reason one releases Around the World in a Day immediately after Purple Rain or releases "If I Was Your Girlfriend" just when SOTT is building chart momentum. For years I thought that weak, popularity chasers could never be Prince fans, but the org has disproved this to me.