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Thread started 02/16/14 9:40am

Byron

10 Prince songs: give your opinion on each one

Temptation

Digital Garden

Joint 2 Joint

And God Created Woman

Dear Mr. Man

Do U Lie

Dig U Better Dead

Positivity

Satisfied

Thunder

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Reply #1 posted 02/16/14 9:55am

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Byron said:

Temptation 7/10 the ending is silly, i loved it as a kid, but now not so

Digital Garden not really a song is it?

Joint 2 Joint 7/10 i like it but it just doesn't go any where

And God Created Woman 10/10 just perfect

Dear Mr. Man 7/10 it's nice, but nothing special, i like the instrumentation

Do U Lie 9/10 everything on the parade album is perfect

Dig U Better Dead 4/5 just no

Positivity 10/10 and everything on lovesexy is perfect too, i love his voice in this, it's hypnotic

Satisfied, 6/10 nothing special

Thunder, 5/10 i hate the instrumenation, it sounds very cheap, love the layered voices, but there are better track on the D&P album

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Reply #2 posted 02/16/14 10:56am

funkomatic

Temptation: great

Digital Garden: at least experimental, but still: percussion sample is crap, weak groove transition ("shahhh")

Joint 2 Joint: great track

And God Created Woman: kinda nice

Dear Mr. Man: forgettable

Do U Lie: great

Dig U Better Dead: forgettable

Positivity: great

Satisfied: forgettable

Thunder: forgettable, awful instrumentation and vocal layers

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Reply #3 posted 02/16/14 11:06am

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Temptation

Pure Prince

Digital Garden

Deep Prince

Joint 2 Joint

Nasty Spiritual Prince

And God Created Woman

Lusty Prince

Dear Mr. Man

Narrow Minded Prince

Do U Lie?

Sceptical Prince

Dig U Better Dead

Feedback Prince

Positivity

Aware Prince

Satisfied

A Giving Prince

Thunder

Spontaneous Prince

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #4 posted 02/16/14 11:12am

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Byron said:

Temptation: I give it an 8, it is somewhat silly but it is also very good in all its ridiculousness IMHO.

Digital Garden: I give this one an 8 too. I love the singing and I think you could make a killer deephouse track out of this one.

Joint 2 Joint: I know this one is from Emancipation, but I have banned that album from my existence so I can't rate it. I know it must be bad, as I know not one song on that album that I completely like/agree with.

And God Created Woman: A pretty good ballad, I would say a 7 out of 10.

Dear Mr. Man: Very nice oganic groove, it doesn't really go anywhere, but does it need to really???

Do U Lie: one of his 'weirder' songs but I have always loved it, it makes me happy and it sounds like Paris.

Dig U Better Dead: I am always in two minds about this one, I like the groove but sometimes the song gets a bit on my nerves.

Positivity: It is a great song, but it drags on for too long IMO.

Satisfied: one of his better later ballads IMO.

Thunder: Too bombastic for me, too much over the top for my taste.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #5 posted 02/16/14 11:48am

thedoorkeeper

How did you pick these 10 songs?

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Reply #6 posted 02/16/14 12:27pm

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Temptation- I do not love the song, but adore the ending part.

Digital Garden - When I heard the snippet I was hoping all the Rainbow Children was like this. Experimental. It remember me some Peter Gabriel stuff.

Joint 2 Joint - one of my favorite. I love the changing themes and the tip-tap "solo".

And God Created Woman - disorganised. Heavy voice chorus. I do not love it.

Dear Mr. Man - Insipid.

Do U Lie - I adore this one. The Prince's voice and background ones are perfect.

Dig U Better Dead - Bha.

Positivity - masterwork. Nice use of voice, nice song, a lot of ideas. Experiemental, creativity.

Satisfied - Insipid

Thunder - disorganised

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Reply #7 posted 02/16/14 12:43pm

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Temptation - great ending on a great album, I looove Temptation.. 9.5/10

Digital Garden - another great track, very funky, 9

Joint 2 Joint - yes loooove this song 9

And God Created Woman sweet pop 9

Dear Mr. Man - average 5

Do U Lie - sweet little song in-between Mountains & Kiss - 8.5

Dig U Better Dead - one of the weak songs, I like the 1st half on C&D, this is average 5

Positivity - yes, fantastic song 10

Satisfied - boooring 2

Thunder - the layered voice is great, love this song, and the 12 inch vinyl is beautiful 9

^ not bad, only 3 average/ weak songs..... imo.. wink

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Reply #8 posted 02/16/14 12:51pm

thedance

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thedoorkeeper said:

How did you pick these 10 songs?

^ I guess the orig poster thinks these are the more "demanding" songs from Prince?

That's my guess. smile

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Reply #9 posted 02/16/14 1:45pm

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Temptation - Never liked it. Think of The Ladder as the ending of ATWIAD

Digital Garden - Worst song on his last great album. terrible

Joint 2 Joint - Pretty much epitonises everything wrong about that album. Its awful

And God Created Woman - Starting to think you're just picking out rubbish now on purpose

Dear Mr. Man - Its helped me get to sleep a few times

Do U Lie - I finally find a Prince song worthy of the name. Inspired. Like something off the White Album, fits in beautifully with the album as a whole and as a song on its own right its a fantastic little song

Dig U Better Dead - With TRC, my favourite non widely accclaimed album and although this isn't one of my favourites from Chaos its still a decent song

Positivity - Best song of this list. As Lovesexy to me is the best album ever recorded I rarely listen to single songs on their own. It feels better listening to the full album and this completes the whole thing perfectly. I've dreamed in w's ever since. Perfection

Satisfied - I loved the 3121 album at the time but rarely revisit it now. Average filler like this is why

Thunder - First time I put the album in after buying it I hated it more than you could imagine. Just didn't sound like a song to be opening a Prince album. Mellowed over the years, and its one of them choruses I find myself singing randomly even though I rarely if ever actually play it biggrin

Strange list, but it got me thinking at least. Didn't look like much of a Prince fan with the first few!

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Reply #10 posted 02/16/14 1:47pm

EddieC

Temptation -- okay for a closer. Kind of a mish-mashed mess, but I like it okay.

Digital Garden -- I actually like this for what it is. Interesting.

Joint 2 Joint -- pretty high on my list, certainly one of the best on Emancipation. Love the ending.

And God Created Woman -- also quite like this. I have a tendency to switch back and forth between it and the Beatles' "In My Life" when it plays on the soundtrack in my head.

Dear Mr. Man -- never thought much of it. Lyrically no better than much of his political/social commentary songs. And I've never been impressed by most of those--and this one doesn't do much musically for me either.

Do U Lie -- love it. Always have, always will.

Dig U Better Dead -- I don't think it fits on the album, but I like it quite a bit. Actually sounds better than many of the rock cuts do on the album, though they have generally been improved live.

Positivity -- although I might say it drags if I were asked, I seem to bring it up in my head fairly often, so I must like it.

Satisfied -- uninteresting to me. The fact that he so often streamed versions or otherwise made them available is a mystery to me. He has so much better work in a similar style.

Thunder -- I like it. It sounds a bit, well, studio-bound (if you can understand that), but I still like it.

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Reply #11 posted 02/16/14 2:24pm

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Byron said:

Temptation

Digital Garden

Joint 2 Joint

And God Created Woman

Dear Mr. Man

Do U Lie

Dig U Better Dead

Positivity

Satisfied

Thunder

Flawed Jewels of the Purple Crown

Many of these suffer from being overlong, overproduced, too morbid or over intense, except Satisfied and Dear Mr Man -- the latter being politically underwhelming but still a damn near perfect groove.

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Reply #12 posted 02/16/14 3:51pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

How did you pick these 10 songs?

^^^this^^^

Are you making a mix or seomthing, Byron?

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Reply #13 posted 02/16/14 4:26pm

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Byron said:

Temptation

Digital Garden

Joint 2 Joint

And God Created Woman

Dear Mr. Man

Do U Lie

Dig U Better Dead

Positivity

Satisfied

Thunder

Temptation.

Great guitar solo. Play the ending to a non-fan, it's cringey.

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Digital Garden.

Struggling to recall. I'm not mad on TRC

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Joint 2 Joint.

Makes my 12 track version of Emancipation. It's very strong apart from the taxi ride at the end. I snip that.

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And God created Woman.

I'm not religious, but this is a nice song. I can appreciate the sentiment. Saw a yoga class working out to this on a foreign holiday once. Twas a bit odd.

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Mr Man.

The matthew 5:5 speech is jarring and doesn't fit the song. Plus the 'ozone layer' thing, it just irks me. That was a concern and blabbed about 20 years ago or more. It's like P only got wind of it in '04 or something. 'Climate change' is all the rage these days.

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Do U Lie.

Utter perfection on a perfect album.

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Dig U Better Dead.

Always seems to get a beating, don't know why. It's not groundbreaking or anything but i like it enough.

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Positivity

It's unique and fantastic. Prince has never made anything else that sounds like it.

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Satisfied.

Meh. Is this off 3121? the fact i have to ask says it all. Prince Ballad by numbers.

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Thunder,

Loved it live on the D&P tour, very bangy and a great opener. I used to love the studio cut, dug the gutar on it, never really liked the Jesus references or the horrible, tinny keyboard on it though. D&P is one of his albums that has plummeted in my estimation. Got worn out in 1991, I've not played it start to finish since then.

smile

What's the idea behind this thread Byron? I'm curious.

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Reply #14 posted 02/17/14 6:15am

Byron

thedance said:

thedoorkeeper said:

How did you pick these 10 songs?

^ I guess the orig poster thinks these are the more "demanding" songs from Prince?

That's my guess. smile


Nah...Actually I just pulled 10 random Prince songs out of my ass lol...


I picked songs that:


- Weren't top 40 singles

- Weren't universally hated (i.e. Jughead)

- Weren't released after 3121 came out


Other than that, just the first 10 songs that I could think of that spanned the last 30 years.

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Reply #15 posted 02/17/14 6:21am

Byron

Marrk said:

What's the idea behind this thread Byron? I'm curious.


That's it, actually...just my curiosity lol. Wanted to see the various thoughts and opinions about random Prince songs he has released throughout his career. Tried to pick ones that haven't been debated to death or where you already pretty much know it will get universally praised/panned. I haven't even listened to Thunder in about 10 years, nonetheless asked anyone what they thought about it. So it's just a change-of-pace thread lol mr.green

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Reply #16 posted 02/17/14 6:23am

JoeTyler

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Temptation HILARIOUS ENDING

Digital Garden MEH

Joint 2 Joint can't even remember it

And God Created Woman EXCELLENT, SULTRY, SEXY BALLAD

Dear Mr. Man BEST SONG OF MUSICOLOGY

Do U Lie FUNNY, BUT THE WORST SONG OF PARADE

Dig U Better Dead UNDERRATED, CATCHY, KIND OF MEAN-POWERFUL

Positivity A TRULY POSITIVE SONG

Satisfied SEXY, SOULFUL

Thunder GOOD INTRO SONG, UNDERRATED

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Reply #17 posted 02/17/14 6:27am

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Temptation is the only one I can't remember how to sing off the top of my head. I suppose I like the other 9 well enough more or less.
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Reply #18 posted 02/17/14 6:29am

iZsaZsa

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Byron said:



thedance said:




thedoorkeeper said:


How did you pick these 10 songs?



^ I guess the orig poster thinks these are the more "demanding" songs from Prince?

That's my guess. smile




Nah...Actually I just pulled 10 random Prince songs out of my ass lol...



I picked songs that:



- Weren't top 40 singles


- Weren't universally hated (i.e. Jughead)


- Weren't released after 3121 came out



Other than that, just the first 10 songs that I could think of that spanned the last 30 years.


That's what I thought. lol shrug
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Reply #19 posted 02/17/14 6:44am

Byron

Aerogram said:

Byron said:

Temptation

Digital Garden

Joint 2 Joint

And God Created Woman

Dear Mr. Man

Do U Lie

Dig U Better Dead

Positivity

Satisfied

Thunder

Flawed Jewels of the Purple Crown

Many of these suffer from being overlong, overproduced, too morbid or over intense, except Satisfied and Dear Mr Man -- the latter being politically underwhelming but still a damn near perfect groove.


nod nod (and yeah, lyrically it's...um...lacking lol)

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Reply #20 posted 02/17/14 7:02am

Javi

Byron said:

Temptation 5

Digital Garden 6

Joint 2 Joint 8

And God Created Woman 10

Dear Mr. Man 7

Do U Lie 9

Dig U Better Dead 4

Positivity 8

Satisfied 4

Thunder 9

Sorry, I don't have the time to comment the songs, so I've just rated them. "And God Created The Woman" is one of the most beautiful songs written by Prince. "Do U Lie" is great too, some European elegance is always welcome. "Thunder" is the perfect beginning of my favourite Prince album, and I love it both musically and lyrically. "Joint 2 Joint" makes me wish Emancipation was far shorter than it is. "Temptation", together with "America", ruins what otherwise would be the best Prince album by far.

[Edited 2/17/14 7:07am]

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Reply #21 posted 02/17/14 7:05am

RodeoSchro

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Temptation
Awesome song, very "dirty" chord progression. Love it

Digital Garden
Never did much for me

Joint 2 Joint
Another take-it-or-leave it song for me

And God Created Woman
Cool riff, all the notes are played on black keys. I'm sure that's no accident

Dear Mr. Man
Excellent song, one of my favorite social commentary songs

Do U Lie
Incredible musicianship on this. I love it to death

Dig U Better Dead
One of the best examples of "PO'ed Prince".

Positivity
A song with real staying power

Satisfied
Generic

Thunder
Not one of my favorites but I appreciate the ambition behind it

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Reply #22 posted 02/17/14 10:24am

herb4

Byron said:

thedance said:

^ I guess the orig poster thinks these are the more "demanding" songs from Prince?

That's my guess. smile


Nah...Actually I just pulled 10 random Prince songs out of my ass lol...


I picked songs that:


- Weren't top 40 singles

- Weren't universally hated (i.e. Jughead)

- Weren't released after 3121 came out


Other than that, just the first 10 songs that I could think of that spanned the last 30 years.

I'll bite then. What an amusingly odd thread topic Good job.

Temptation - I like it OK but the goofy God shit/narrative junk at the end ruins it. Prince does this a lot actually.

Digital Garden - Booooring. Always hated this song. It just meanders. There's no song there.

Joint 2 Joint - Fun tune. Nothing classic but I remember enjoying it when it came out at least.

And God Created Woman - Beautiful song. Beautiful lyrics. Great vocals, harmonies, background sounds and range on display here. One of my favorites on that album.

Dear Mr. Man - Nice groove and has an "organic' feel to it that evades a lot of Prince's studio work. Naive and cheesy lyrics though ("What about this big ol' hole in the ozone?"). i like it overall, especially thre live versions.

Do U Lie - Clunker. Fucks up the flow of that album (which I've always had mixed opinions on anyway). I've never enjoyed this style of Prince songs.

Dig U Better Dead - Get's a bad rap (no pun intended), a lot like "I Rock Therefore I Am". Conversely, I've always enjoyed this style of Prince tracks; the "mad scientist/one man band/over-dub by over-dub/layering approach with a heavy back beat.

Positivity - most underrated song on the album (along with "Dance On") and a greast closer. Love the way it builds off the simpicity of the first two verses, the bridge and the lyrics. "Call People Magazine, Rolling Stone, Call your next o' kin cause your ass is gone.."

Satisfied - Another by the book Prince ballad. At this point, I start to get them mixed up they sound so much alike (Call My Name, On the Couch, Scandolous...). They all run together for me. I know they drive the women insane though.

Thunder - I like it, despite the Jesus stuff, especially that twangy sitar sounding guitar riff. Mike B.'s drums are always nice too and one of the best things about the Diamonds and Pearls album. I miss him and John Blackwell. That thick, heavy bottom end they provided is conspicuously missing from Prince's sound these days and I always thought it added a lot to his sound

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Reply #23 posted 02/17/14 11:31am

EddieC

It's interesting to see how varied the responses are.

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Reply #24 posted 02/17/14 12:19pm

herb4

Byron said:

Marrk said:

What's the idea behind this thread Byron? I'm curious.


That's it, actually...just my curiosity lol. Wanted to see the various thoughts and opinions about random Prince songs he has released throughout his career. Tried to pick ones that haven't been debated to death or where you already pretty much know it will get universally praised/panned. I haven't even listened to Thunder in about 10 years, nonetheless asked anyone what they thought about it. So it's just a change-of-pace thread lol mr.green

Pretty nifty thread idea, Byron. Made me wonder what 10 I might pick if I were to do the same. We need a change of pace around here.

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Reply #25 posted 02/17/14 4:34pm

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Temptation...never a fan...the ending is ridiculous

Digital Garden...cool little semi-song. I remember first hearing this on NPGMC before Rainbow Children was out, and was VERY excited to hear him back in form.

Joint 2 Joint...always loved this song

And God Created Woman...apart from 7 the best thing from Symbol.

Dear Mr. Man...ok tune but isnt' aging well.

Do U Lie...Love it...everything from Parade is brilliant.

Dig U Better Dead...ok, but sorta boring.

Positivity...I have mixed feelings about this one. I don't like the beginning, but the way it builds, I always listen to the end. For some reason it gets in my head and its super hard to get it out of there.

Satisfied...Forgettable

Thunder...HUGE fan of this one. One of the highlights of D&P for me.

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Reply #26 posted 02/17/14 4:39pm

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Temptation- fairly pedestrian until the end when it completely shits the bed.


Digital Garden- nice. except for the chit-chat


Joint 2 Joint- love it


And God Created Woman- love it


Dear Mr. Man- meh.


Do U Lie- kill it with fire


Dig U Better Dead- s'adight


Positivity- drones on a bit too long.


Satisfied- love it


Thunder- decent. used to love it, but I don't have much patience for this sort of overblown production any more.



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Reply #27 posted 02/17/14 5:17pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Temptation


Pure Prince


Digital Garden


Deep Prince


Joint 2 Joint


Nasty Spiritual Prince


And God Created Woman


Lusty Prince


Dear Mr. Man


Narrow Minded Prince


Do U Lie?


Sceptical Prince


Dig U Better Dead


Feedback Prince


Positivity


Aware Prince


Satisfied


A Giving Prince


Thunder


Spontaneous Prince


Narrow minded, really? I'm surprised by the lack of enthusiasm for Dear Mr. Man overall. Musically, it's great. It's a nice, thick, organic funk groove with a nice Maceo solo near the end. The verses aren't great, but the chorus is solid.
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #28 posted 02/17/14 5:26pm

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Temptation - 7/10, never stood out to me, seemed a little cheesy but fun
Digital Garden - 7/10, decent for an interlude
Joint 2 Joint - 9/10, funky & funny, would be a 10 if it didn't sound so plastic
And God Created Woman - 10/10, great groove, great sound, kind of like a precursor to neo-soul
Dear Mr. Man - 8/10, another great groove, good chorus, verses are so so
Do U Lie - 9/10, doesn't stand out to me that much, but that's because te album overall is great
Dig U Better Dead - 3/10, junk
Positivity - 10/10, brilliant, great lyrics, great vocals, the plastic drum is a very minor annoyance
Satisfied - 7/10, a pale copy of the brilliant On the Couch, basically harmless and ok
Thunder - 6/10, annoying, plastic opening to an overall pretty good album
"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #29 posted 02/18/14 12:12am

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Temptation ; Has some great things in it, but could have been so much better

Digital Garden ; Same as Temptation

Joint 2 Joint ; I used to love it, but somehow it didn't stick for a long time

And God Created Woman ; one of his best ballads ever. Great track.

Dear Mr. Man ; Prince and politics never works. Here it almost does. Not to bad.

Do U Lie ; Making great songs at that time was so easy, you almost forget the brilliance of this one.

Dig U Better Dead ; It's ok.

Positivity ; Not the best on Lovesexy. But belongs on it. So good.

Satisfied ; Too much of a copy of himself to enjoy.

Thunder ; With a better production could have been so much better. Still the tune is enjoyable.

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