2elijah said:

I think if Prince went back to performing the way he did, stage-wise, like in his early days, swearing, doing sexually-suggestive dance moves, and sexually-explicit lyrics like in the past, you'd have fans screaming that a 55 -ear old man is trying to relive his youth

Oh how i would LOVE to see that xD

But yeah in all seriousness maybe its a mix of both? Maybe he regrets some things but not all?

I'd love to hear censored versions of his most explicit songs ohohoho

100% absolutely when it comes to the dirty stuff. I think its obvious on how he trys to ban anything from his past to even be online. Look at when the NJ Controversy show just came out on dvd. Prince went NUTS and started that lawsuit. Thank goodness he dropped it!! I don't know why he is so embarressed of it the sex stuff but he seems like he is. Dang I miss those days!! No more Do Me baby, Scandalous, Insatiable, Head, Dirty Mind, Sexy MF, Darling Nikki, Lets Pretend Were Married, Irresistible Bitch, Darlin nikki, International Lover, Erotic City... Those are actually my favorite songs too!! I think I will go and burn that cd now and remenisce on how good Prince used to be!!

OldFriends4Sale said:

2elijah said:

I think if Prince went back to performing the way he did, stage-wise, like in his early days, swearing, doing sexually-suggestive dance moves, and sexually-explicit lyrics like in the past, you'd have fans screaming that a 55 -ear old man is trying to relive his youth, and looks silly doing it, and fans saying he needs to make new music, growup and change persona, accept his age, and not live in his past Prince 'persona'. I mean didn't one time Marvin Gaye kind of stripped down on stage at a later age in his underwear on stage, trying to bring his sexy image back that he was known for, but failed at it with his fans?

I guess it all depends

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Did or would MJ fans dislike him grabbing his crotch at 50something?

Madonna fans still prefer wild Madonna to introverted Madonna

Heavy Metal Band and Rock bands who are now in their 40s 50s 60s still get to be as wild as ever and their fans love it.

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Of course stripping down to underwear is one thing. But overall what Prince songs are so sexualy suggestive that people would have a problem with a man who doesn't seem to age much, singing. If Prince LOOKED 55 or older, if he looked like an old man, which 55 isn't old, and a person shouldn't look 'old' at 55. Head is the only most blatant sexual song just from the title. The story is cool though. I don't know any other songs from his 80s that's over the top. I don't care for Pussy Control (more from the title I guess) most of his songs even on Dirty Mind could easily be sung by Prince and they aren't something a 55 yr old man can sing.

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If he can sing Cream (get on top) he can sing Do it All Night (then Breakfast Can Wait) same message

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A few years ago I saw Glady's Knight and 1 of the Pips was with her, they had something set up where he took over the show and Glady's assisted on backing vocals. This guys in his 70s took the mic and did some moves and gestures like classic 1950/60 rock in roll did a semi split, hump and grinded (it didn't come off comical or obnoxious) and the women in the audience (all colors) WENT WILD!!! the guys we were cheering him on, the band and singers rolled with him and Glady's had a huge smile on her face.

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So I guess it all depends.

Actually, I am not one to put limits on anyone's potential, but my point is based on the type of comments you know you would either read or hear from fans/non-fans, if he went back to swearing, and performing in more, intense sexually, suggestive moves, like he used to. Not saying that he shouldn't attempt to do that in a less, intense way, just basically stating it wouldn't go without criticism, and the mentioning of his age. I agree it depends on how he presents it, not saying he shouldn't make any attempts to bring on a tease during his performances. Like you said, it more or less would depend on how 'he brings it', so to speak.

For example, he did real well singing 'The Gingerbread Man' during W2A in NYC and knew he had seduced and mesmerized the audience the way he sang it, including how he performed it physically. Also agree that he doesn't look his age, and as far as his moves are concerned, well I gotta tell you, that after that performance at the Mohegan sun, Bro moves around that stage faster than many 25 year-olds, and he wears out his audience with his energy, but it's good energy. He seems to be pretty fit for 55. He looks great for his age, and seems to be in very good physical form.

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idk. it depends on POV. i do not recommend him stripping or grinding or jerking off guitars...HOWEVER, some of his dirty songs are the best. just play em. we won't think any less of him than how most already do

I think he is but he still teases with it in concert because he still wants that money from the fans who want to hear it and would not pay to go see a concert full of nothing but his new stuff.

2elijah said:

tab32792 said:

I think he isn't at peace with his past. If he was then he wouldn't have a problem singing a lot of old stuff. His songs mean more to him than most artists. but that's just my opinion

I think if Prince went back to performing the way he did, stage-wise, like in his early days, swearing, doing sexually-suggestive dance moves, and sexually-explicit lyrics like in the past, you'd have fans screaming that a 55 -ear old man is trying to relive his youth, and looks silly doing it, and fans saying he needs to make new music, growup and change persona, accept his age, and not live in his past Prince 'persona'. I mean didn't one time Marvin Gaye kind of stripped down on stage at a later age in his underwear on stage, trying to bring his sexy image back that he was known for, but failed at it with his fans?

Nobody is saying that he needs to be stripping down to his underwear again. However, he would still look good if he did. I'd rather see a sexy hairy grown 55 year old man in his underwear rather than a hairless twinky bitchboy that looks like a plastic Chipendale dancer.

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But playing snippets of "Erotic City" without vocals or changing lyrics in old songs doesn't look like the behaviour of getting older and more mature. It looks like the behavior of a child that wants to either cuss or get nasty but simply teases with it rather than actually doing it because they'll get a spanking if they do it. Now, that's what looks ridiculous. Not just ridiculous looking but also hypocritical looking considering that the artist is now claiming to be part of one of the most strict religions out there and acts "preachy".

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I don't care if he's the cool ass nasty Prince, or the loony goodie two shoes Prince, just give me some hard ass shaking funk. When it comes to music in general, the funk behind the lyrics catch my ear much moreso than lyrics themselves. But as far as if he did become nasty again, it's just according to how he did it as to how people would react. If he did the Madonna route and started using current slang and lingo and started hanging with a bunch of these tired ass new acts, yeah, people would say he's not acting his age. If he was nasty as a grown up, mainly the only ones bitching would be the stuffy goodie two shoes fans who surprise me that they are Prince fans in the first place.

This lady right here is in her 70s and is absolutely filthy as hell and people love her for it. And I've never heard anyone say she's trying to act young. I've only heard them say...."That's a BAD bitch!".....

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vainandy said:

2elijah said:

I think if Prince went back to performing the way he did, stage-wise, like in his early days, swearing, doing sexually-suggestive dance moves, and sexually-explicit lyrics like in the past, you'd have fans screaming that a 55 -ear old man is trying to relive his youth, and looks silly doing it, and fans saying he needs to make new music, growup and change persona, accept his age, and not live in his past Prince 'persona'. I mean didn't one time Marvin Gaye kind of stripped down on stage at a later age in his underwear on stage, trying to bring his sexy image back that he was known for, but failed at it with his fans?

Nobody is saying that he needs to be stripping down to his underwear again. However, he would still look good if he did. I'd rather see a sexy hairy grown 55 year old man in his underwear rather than a hairless twinky bitchboy that looks like a plastic Chipendale dancer.

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But playing snippets of "Erotic City" without vocals or changing lyrics in old songs doesn't look like the behaviour of getting older and more mature. It looks like the behavior of a child that wants to either cuss or get nasty but simply teases with it rather than actually doing it because they'll get a spanking if they do it. Now, that's what looks ridiculous. Not just ridiculous looking but also hypocritical looking considering that the artist is now claiming to be part of one of the most strict religions out there and acts "preachy".

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I don't care if he's the cool ass nasty Prince, or the loony goodie two shoes Prince, just give me some hard ass shaking funk. When it comes to music in general, the funk behind the lyrics catch my ear much moreso than lyrics themselves. But as far as if he did become nasty again, it's just according to how he did it as to how people would react. If he did the Madonna route and started using current slang and lingo and started hanging with a bunch of these tired ass new acts, yeah, people would say he's not acting his age. If he was nasty as a grown up, mainly the only ones bitching would be the stuffy goodie two shoes fans who surprise me that they are Prince fans in the first place.

This lady right here is in her 70s and is absolutely filthy as hell and people love her for it. And I've never heard anyone say she's trying to act young. I've only heard them say...."That's a BAD bitch!".....

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I'm not even going to touch half your post vain, but hey, if you enjoy that 70-year old lady and whatever filth she spews, then I guess different strokes for different folks.

NouveauDance said:

Tempest said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

LayzieKiddZ said:

tab32792 said:

thebanishedone said:

trax said:

vainandy said:

tab32792 said:

nursev said:

Tempest said:

I think it best that Prince take his past to the Lord & ask Him about it. It isn't enough for any of us to just blow off our past and say "I have no reason to be ashamed." There's no freedom in that. Shoving crap under a rug and pretending all is well doesn't fly with God. Let's seek God's opinion and not settle for our own delusions.

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The best thing one can do is soul search with God, see what needs to be acknowleged as sin, sincerely repent of (past & present sin) and get cleansed of the filth. It's only when we accept responsibility & sincerely repent that God can cleanse us.

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I think Prince should ask himself, if I were in God's throne room, would I sing most of my back catalogue? Or not? If the answer to that is NO, then repentance is needed.

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Also, does it matter how we influence others with our words, music, lives, etc.? Absolutely. Taking responsibility for the bad seeds we've sown in other's lives is important.

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Like I said previously, Prince is the only one who can do the soul searching & reflect. Hopefully, he'll do that before God rather than shove everything under a rug. God sees under the rug. The higher the mound under the rug, the more bound we are.

True but God gave him talent and im hopeful he wouldnt see prince using those talents as wrong. His music has and continues to bring smiles to many and that has to mean something.

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YES! God gave him LOADS of talent and that's why Prince needs to use it wisely.

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If you can show me anywhere in the Bible where getting smiles from people is God's criteria for judging whether or not something is right or wrong, I'll pay you $50.00. Hitler drew huge crowds & got lots of smiles from people too (his followers). They worshiped him. I'm not comparing Prince to Hitler, I'm merely drawing a comparison & stating the obvious. http://www.youtube.com/wa...N1sf_enRXU

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God does not see as man sees. He's all about truth, righteous & holiness. If what you're doing would not be considered "righteous" in God's eyes, or it's bringing people into a sinful place (thought, word or deed), then, it's sin. Even if they smile.

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As I've mentioned before, if Prince can see himself performing Darling Nikki, Erotic City and the like in God's throne room with a clean conscience (lyrics to boot), then, OK. If not, then there's an issue.

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It's up to Prince to soul search with God. However, I can promise that smiles, making people dance, encores & crowd pleasing will not be the criteria that God uses to determine whether or not the music & lyrics are OK.

Not ashamed of it but more annoyed by it. Too many want him to get on stage and curse and sing every dirty track when there's so much more to him than that. The cursing and sexuality was just a facet not the entire diamond!

HonestMan13 said:

Not ashamed of it but more annoyed by it. Too many want him to get on stage and curse and sing every dirty track when there's so much more to him than that. The cursing and sexuality was just a facet not the entire diamond!

AGREED. And, there's so much more to come.

2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I guess it all depends

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Did or would MJ fans dislike him grabbing his crotch at 50something?

Madonna fans still prefer wild Madonna to introverted Madonna

Heavy Metal Band and Rock bands who are now in their 40s 50s 60s still get to be as wild as ever and their fans love it.

.

Of course stripping down to underwear is one thing. But overall what Prince songs are so sexualy suggestive that people would have a problem with a man who doesn't seem to age much, singing. If Prince LOOKED 55 or older, if he looked like an old man, which 55 isn't old, and a person shouldn't look 'old' at 55. Head is the only most blatant sexual song just from the title. The story is cool though. I don't know any other songs from his 80s that's over the top. I don't care for Pussy Control (more from the title I guess) most of his songs even on Dirty Mind could easily be sung by Prince and they aren't something a 55 yr old man can sing.

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If he can sing Cream (get on top) he can sing Do it All Night (then Breakfast Can Wait) same message

.

A few years ago I saw Glady's Knight and 1 of the Pips was with her, they had something set up where he took over the show and Glady's assisted on backing vocals. This guys in his 70s took the mic and did some moves and gestures like classic 1950/60 rock in roll did a semi split, hump and grinded (it didn't come off comical or obnoxious) and the women in the audience (all colors) WENT WILD!!! the guys we were cheering him on, the band and singers rolled with him and Glady's had a huge smile on her face.

.

So I guess it all depends.

Actually, I am not one to put limits on anyone's potential, but my point is based on the type of comments you know you would either read or hear from fans/non-fans, if he went back to swearing, and performing in more, intense sexually, suggestive moves, like he used to. Not saying that he shouldn't attempt to do that in a less, intense way, just basically stating it wouldn't go without criticism, and the mentioning of his age. I agree it depends on how he presents it, not saying he shouldn't make any attempts to bring on a tease during his performances. Like you said, it more or less would depend on how 'he brings it', so to speak.

For example, he did real well singing 'The Gingerbread Man' during W2A in NYC and knew he had seduced and mesmerized the audience the way he sang it, including how he performed it physically. Also agree that he doesn't look his age, and as far as his moves are concerned, well I gotta tell you, that after that performance at the Mohegan sun, Bro moves around that stage faster than many 25 year-olds, and he wears out his audience with his energy, but it's good energy. He seems to be pretty fit for 55. He looks great for his age, and seems to be in very good physical form.

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Right, I think people are agists, in that someone in their 50s or 60s can't be sexual or sensual etc that they should stop being who they are and conform to a standard of old age.

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50 is hardly old. I remember an old Twilight Zone epis: Kick the Can about elderly people holding onto their youth, and it was all about behaving as an old person vs someone older who still is excited about life.

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When Tina Turn came back on stage with her short skirt showing all that leg and gave Beyonce a run for her money, I of course was cheering Tina on, she was sexy sensual and full of energy. We should anyone deny her or Prince that aspect of themselves. It's obviously there.

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I was glad to see Prince ripping open his shirt on those W2 shows and showing skin. Not that I needed to see that personally, but that he seemed to be free in a way, until he came back to the states and covered up again lol

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I know people in their 60s 70s 80s who are still a firecracker of energy and I love it

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actress Betty White is LOVED by audiences old and a whole new young audience for her raw comedy her talk about sex and being really upfront and it's actually not raunchy and Betty is pushing 90?

nursev said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I sometimes think he is

The speech he made at that awards show where Patti LaBelle royally f^$ck&ed up Purple Rain and Alicia Keys crawled around pregnant on the piano, that speech made me think he had some 'embarrassments'

I agree with everything youve posted. I watched that speech and he did seemed bothered by his past. Remember when he said something like this generation didnt have to do the things he did?

Yep. His speach strongly came across as if he was embarrassed about that part of his life and shying younger artists away from imitating that.

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think I saw the speech that you guys are referring to. I may have and just don't remember.

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I would just like to say that pride goes before destruction & a haughty spirit before a fall (Proverbs 16:18). Pride is weakness. To have a humble repentant heart is strength, happiness & freedom.

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I'm certainly not proud of some of the things I did in my past. If I had to do it over again, I certainly would. I don't dwell on those things because I've taken them to God and He's forgiven me. I'm sure that Prince feels the same way about some of the things in his past. Since he's a public figure, maybe it's his way of trying to "right the wrong" by encouraging others (publicly) not to follow the same path. I see that as a good thing, not a bad or sad thing.

god gaveth prince talent and god tooketh it awayeth ..

TrevorAyer said:

god gaveth prince talent and god tooketh it awayeth ..

LOL

Prince: God giveth me a break thru blessing, I want 2 be a 1980s superstar oooowwwwaaa

God: I giveth thee vision, skill and talent, the noituloveRevolution the Time Sheila E the Family, Dreams ie Purple Rain and it can take you far

Prince: Prince, thank U Lord

Dirty Mind Controvery 1999 PURPLE RAIN

Prince get's scared of the Reign, but the blessing is so much it continues into 3.5 more years:ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT, Lovesexy, Batman and all the wonderful creative works of the 1985-1986 sessions most still unreleased

Thunder

Thunder

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TrevorAyer said:

One of the things that annoys me is when an artist tries to distance themself from their past.I'm not saying that this is what Prince is doing,just making an observation.How many times have we seen a "nasty" performer/artist who gets older,announces they're "born again" (or whatever) and denounces the things they did in the past?

databank said:

Madonna bought herself a LOT of credibility with Ray Of Light, when she became the "mature" Madonna.

And she lost a LOT of credibility when she became silly sexy Madonna starting with Hard Candy.

I'm not making this up, I remember critics and reviews from 98 and 08. I think the reason why the last album didn't do as well as its predecessors is because Madonna isn't really credible anymore playing sex symbol at 55, no matter how good she still looks. That and the lack of originality of an album that sounds like any dance diva of the moment when she should be ahead of every one.

The thing with Madonna is...she's still alot of fun What I mean is that,she is older and wiser now but she hasn't lost her sense of humor and her edginess.She still curses and says provocative things in interviews.Ray Of Light came about after alot of soul searching and spiritual enlightment (and giving birth to a child) but every album can't be like that.That would be like expecting Prince to make another Lovesexy.I think that,what we see Madonna doing now,is the "real" Madonna.She's being herself: an unapologetic cougar on the prowl...lol

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