So, as far as I know, there are 3 podcast series dedicated to Prince:

The Prince Podcast

The Peach And Black Podcast

The Truth

I've repeatedly noticed that Peach And Black & The Truth get a lot of love on the org and even get a sticky when there is a new show. But, then, I posted last week about Prince Podcast doing a 3 part Sign "O" The Times discussion/review and it gets zero responses, much less a sticky. This blows my mind. What's up with that, Org?

I've listened to Prince Podcast from the beginning, love it, love the discussions, great show!

I've listed to Peach And Black from the beginning, love it, love the reviews, great show!

I've tried to listen to The Truth, but, can't get into it. Mainly it's because it's not easy to listen to, it seems unorganized, everybody talks over each other a lot and there are other technical issues with the sound quality that I find unpleasant. I also don't find it as insightful as the other two shows. That said, I keep coming back to it hoping things will improve because I'll take all the podcasts about Prince I can get.

So, it continues to baffle me that, for instance, The Truth's episode about Breakfast Can Wait has a sticky and no one seems interested in Prince Podcast doing a 3 part discussion about Sign "O" The Times. Seems strange to me. Did somebody on Prince Podcast ruffle some feathers with someone at the Org?

On that note, I want to give a special mention to a music podcast that is not dedicated to Prince but still manages to bring him up just about every episode: The Music Snobs Podcast.

They did a 2 part discussion about him and the album 1999 about a year ago, but, regardless of the subject being discussed, they always seem to mention Prince or compare his career to the topic at hand.

Oh, yeah, I first heard about the Music Snobs while listening to Prince Podcast, so, there's one more reason to give them a listen.

In my not-so-humble opinion, of course...

Ditto...I agree!!!

Then again, I am a little biased since I come out on the SOTT podcast!

But yeah...I totally agree..no love for Michael Dean and the hard work he and the rest of the crew, myself included, put into it.

The reason I say that is because having it stickied here would expose the information we have to others. I like to think we're pretty knowledgable on the topic of Prince, and aren't necessarily jaded towards him. We call it like we feel it is, is what I'm trying to say, and that's reason enough for it to be stickied. Thanks for mentioning that Thunderfunk. I appreciate you putting the podcast out there, and I'm sure Mr. Dean does to.

Dey Droppin'....signing out!

Yeah, thanks for putting them out there - I had no idea they existed.

1nonly said:

Ditto...I agree!!!

Then again, I am a little biased since I come out on the SOTT podcast!

But yeah...I totally agree..no love for Michael Dean and the hard work he and the rest of the crew, myself included, put into it.

The reason I say that is because having it stickied here would expose the information we have to others. I like to think we're pretty knowledgable on the topic of Prince, and aren't necessarily jaded towards him. We call it like we feel it is, is what I'm trying to say, and that's reason enough for it to be stickied. Thanks for mentioning that Thunderfunk. I appreciate you putting the podcast out there, and I'm sure Mr. Dean does to.

Dey Droppin'....signing out!

Thank you and the guys for the hours of free content.

I'm diggin' it!

I also have a Prince podcast that I do, but it's not widely publicized. I credit both the Peach and Black Podcast and the Prince Podcast for inspiring my show. I don't record episodes nearly as often as I used to, though.

I have Cerebral Palsy and my voice is affected by it, so in the past I have been told some very unkind things about how I sound, how my show was unlistenable because of it, etc. Because of all that, I've kept promotion of my podcast pretty limited to my friends and acquaintances. I run Twitter and Facebook pages for my show, so anyone who's really interested is free to check those out.

http://www.facebook.com/PKpodcast

http://twitter.com/PKpodcast

In years past, I really wanted and tried to build up a large fanbase, but these days I just do it for the love of Prince and his music. I've got no time for people who are so keyed in on my voice that they can't or won't hear what I have to say about my passion for the music and my dedication as a fan for over 30 years now.

bluefish said:

I also have a Prince podcast that I do, but it's not widely publicized. I credit both the Peach and Black Podcast and the Prince Podcast for inspiring my show. I don't record episodes nearly as often as I used to, though.

I have Cerebral Palsy and my voice is affected by it, so in the past I have been told some very unkind things about how I sound, how my show was unlistenable because of it, etc. Because of all that, I've kept promotion of my podcast pretty limited to my friends and acquaintances. I run Twitter and Facebook pages for my show, so anyone who's really interested is free to check those out.

http://www.facebook.com/PKpodcast

http://twitter.com/PKpodcast

In years past, I really wanted and tried to build up a large fanbase, but these days I just do it for the love of Prince and his music. I've got no time for people who are so keyed in on my voice that they can't or won't hear what I have to say about my passion for the music and my dedication as a fan for over 30 years now.

Cool, I'll check it out if I can. I'm not on facebook or twitter, so, if I can get it with my PC, I will.

Not cool that people have been negative about the effect Cerebral Palsy has on your speaking voice. If they did not enjoy listening, ok, but there's no excuse for being unkind to you about it.

Regardless, I hope you keep it up.

I've listened to Prince Podcast many times and found it interesting and insightful. I recommend it to those who haven't yet tuned in. I'm glad Michael Dean & his crew are back. Mods, stickify this podcast!

I've been listening to Michael dean and the crew since the beginning.

He also talks about movies and comic books on geeked out podcast wich I also enjoy.

Big shout out to qstorm and big sexy also, ya'll keeps it real!!

[Edited 12/21/13 15:02pm]

If you want to find them they are at podcastjuice.net

Best are Peach and Black, very balanced opinions, and they are Australians who speak very similar to us here in New Zealand. I have met 3 of them too and they are nice guys.

Podcast juice are okay, but can't really get into the truth podcast.

bluefish said:

bluefish said:

I also have a Prince podcast that I do, but it's not widely publicized. I credit both the Peach and Black Podcast and the Prince Podcast for inspiring my show. I don't record episodes nearly as often as I used to, though.

I have Cerebral Palsy and my voice is affected by it, so in the past I have been told some very unkind things about how I sound, how my show was unlistenable because of it, etc. Because of all that, I've kept promotion of my podcast pretty limited to my friends and acquaintances. I run Twitter and Facebook pages for my show, so anyone who's really interested is free to check those out.

http://www.facebook.com/PKpodcast

http://twitter.com/PKpodcast

In years past, I really wanted and tried to build up a large fanbase, but these days I just do it for the love of Prince and his music. I've got no time for people who are so keyed in on my voice that they can't or won't hear what I have to say about my passion for the music and my dedication as a fan for over 30 years now.

I'll check this out. Thanks for the information.

controversy99 said:

The Prince Podcast is waaaayyyy to sterile. There are very few interactions. No matter how interesting something is that, say, "big sexy" says, there is basically no reaction, comment, question, laughter, etc. from anybody else.

I couldn't disagree with you more on this.

There are tons of "reaction, comment, question, laughter, etc." from the commentators.

How many Prince Podcasts have you listened to?

There have been a few shows that were only Michael Dean solo or only had 1 or 2 guests. Those shows were less animated than most. However, when there are 3 or 4 of them the conversations have been VERY interesting.

In my not-so-humble opinion, of course...

djThunderfunk said:

controversy99 said:

I've heard 3 or 4 of their shows. The Prince in the 90s episode with The Music Snobs was really good. But I just listened to the first of their 3 part show on Sign of the Times, and it was super sterile. What are some of the good episodes that you'd recommend? I'm definitely interested in hearing more from them.

I'm not sure how far back their online archives go, so, I don't know which older episodes are still available.

That said, the Under The Cherry Moon commentary was very entertaining, as well as the round table reviews for the early 80s albums.

The episodes that are not centered around reviewing/commentating on specific albums can be kind of hit or miss, like, when it's a short episode about current or recent events and releases.

But, I really like it when they break down an album such as Dirty Mind or 1999.

Also, if memory serves, they did a pretty cool show about the 1984 Birthday show at 1st Ave when the soundboard boot was released.

controversy99 said:

Here's the thing. A balance of interaction between the hosts but not too much over talking is key for a good podcast -- conversational but well structured. The Prince Podcast is waaaayyyy to sterile. There are very few interactions. No matter how interesting something is that, say, "big sexy" says, there is basically no reaction, comment, question, laughter, etc. from anybody else. It makes for a very boring show. I wish it was better. The Truth has the opposite problem, at least the couple of their podcasts that I've heard. There's a lot of over talking, and the structure is chaotic and hard to follow. Peach & Black have a nice balance of interaction and structure, which makes for an interesting show. We're humans. We enjoy conversation and something that we can follow. Side note: The Music Snobs is another great podcast. A couple of the guys on it are huge Prince fans. They have a nice balance of conversation and structure and a lot of knowledge. [Edited 12/25/13 20:45pm]

I give props to everybody who does a Prince podcast I hope this thread doesn't turn into

who podcast is better than who. I just happen to listen to Michael Dean more because

that's who appeals to me but I'm not going to blast anybody else's podcast. Anyway, people

should really check out the 3 part sign o the times discussion

I'll just add this, and I think Michael Dean could better respond, but when we do a podcast it's usually over skype, which makes it difficult to overlap anyway. There's a technical limitation there. If we were in the same room, believe me, we would interact and play off the other's words much better. This is where, in my opinion, Peach and Black really shine through. Most of their cats are in the same room when they record.

Plus, remember, that reviews are subjective, and we respect each others estimation of any song or album review. If that respect comes off as "boring" then so be it, but at least its genuine. Again, not that the other podcasts aren't. I'm not trying to imply that.

In the end, it's all about the same underlying topic, so why trip, right?

1nonly said:

I'll just add this, and I think Michael Dean could better respond, but when we do a podcast it's usually over skype, which makes it difficult to overlap anyway. There's a technical limitation there. If we were in the same room, believe me, we would interact and play off the other's words much better. This is where, in my opinion, Peach and Black really shine through. Most of their cats are in the same room when they record.

Plus, remember, that reviews are subjective, and we respect each others estimation of any song or album review. If that respect comes off as "boring" then so be it, but at least its genuine. Again, not that the other podcasts aren't. I'm not trying to imply that.

In the end, it's all about the same underlying topic, so why trip, right?

1nonly said:

dbpdexter said:

controversy99 said:

1nonly said:

I'll just add this, and I think Michael Dean could better respond, but when we do a podcast it's usually over skype, which makes it difficult to overlap anyway. There's a technical limitation there. If we were in the same room, believe me, we would interact and play off the other's words much better. This is where, in my opinion, Peach and Black really shine through. Most of their cats are in the same room when they record.

Plus, remember, that reviews are subjective, and we respect each others estimation of any song or album review. If that respect comes off as "boring" then so be it, but at least its genuine. Again, not that the other podcasts aren't. I'm not trying to imply that.

In the end, it's all about the same underlying topic, so why trip, right?

Thank you Dey Droppin' for responding. It's always nice to get the story straight from the source. I'm definitely not trying to put down y'all's show. In fact, I'm glad it's out there. Especially since y'all are black folks (at least sound like) like me, it's a nice change of pace from Peach & Black. I'm just saying that what I've heard could have more interaction. djThunderfunk, Thanks for the recommendations. It looks like their reviews of any 80s albums are no longer online unfortunately. I might try the Under Cherry Moon episode you recommend, although I'd rather hear discussion of the music, so I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy it. I just started the Perfect Unreleassed episode, but I'm hangin out with family right now, so I won't be able to listen to the whole show until a few days from now.

I believe I'm the only one from the usual suspects who's not black!

Straight latino/white here...who knew, huh?

controversy99 said:

1nonly said:

I'll just add this, and I think Michael Dean could better respond, but when we do a podcast it's usually over skype, which makes it difficult to overlap anyway. There's a technical limitation there. If we were in the same room, believe me, we would interact and play off the other's words much better. This is where, in my opinion, Peach and Black really shine through. Most of their cats are in the same room when they record.

Plus, remember, that reviews are subjective, and we respect each others estimation of any song or album review. If that respect comes off as "boring" then so be it, but at least its genuine. Again, not that the other podcasts aren't. I'm not trying to imply that.

In the end, it's all about the same underlying topic, so why trip, right?

Thank you Dey Droppin' for responding. It's always nice to get the story straight from the source. I'm definitely not trying to put down y'all's show. In fact, I'm glad it's out there. Especially since y'all are black folks (at least sound like) like me, it's a nice change of pace from Peach & Black. I'm just saying that what I've heard could have more interaction. djThunderfunk, Thanks for the recommendations. It looks like their reviews of any 80s albums are no longer online unfortunately. I might try the Under Cherry Moon episode you recommend, although I'd rather hear discussion of the music, so I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy it. I just started the Perfect Unreleassed episode, but I'm hangin out with family right now, so I won't be able to listen to the whole show until a few days from now.

funny thing about that particular show...we only covered the first cd of the two and are about 1 1/2 years behind on doing the 2nd cd. gotta remind Michael about that sometime. Especially since, in my opinion, cd2 has the real gems on it!

1nonly said:

controversy99 said:

1nonly said: Thank you Dey Droppin' for responding. It's always nice to get the story straight from the source. I'm definitely not trying to put down y'all's show. In fact, I'm glad it's out there. Especially since y'all are black folks (at least sound like) like me, it's a nice change of pace from Peach & Black. I'm just saying that what I've heard could have more interaction. djThunderfunk, Thanks for the recommendations. It looks like their reviews of any 80s albums are no longer online unfortunately. I might try the Under Cherry Moon episode you recommend, although I'd rather hear discussion of the music, so I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy it. I just started the Perfect Unreleassed episode, but I'm hangin out with family right now, so I won't be able to listen to the whole show until a few days from now.

funny thing about that particular show...we only covered the first cd of the two and are about 1 1/2 years behind on doing the 2nd cd. gotta remind Michael about that sometime. Especially since, in my opinion, cd2 has the real gems on it!

Yes! Remind him. I'm always interested in hearing more bootleg reviews on the podcasts and this one should make for a good show.

So, The Truth episode, that, while decent, is really nothing more than speculations, gets a sticky.

The Peach & Black episode, that, while pretty great, is still nothing more that a repeat, gets a sticky.

The Prince Podcast's 3 part SOTT episodes, that go deep into the whole project, gets no sticky.

I'm telling you, I think Michael Dean must have pissed in somebody at the Org's Wheaties or somethin'...

Not trying to bump my own thread, but, it beats starting a new one, no?

Anyway...

I was just listening to the most recent The Music Snobs Podcast, and they mentioned that back in September Prince's lawyers had the 2 part episodes reviewing 1999 for it's 30th anniversary removed from Soundcloud.

First of all, how? Prince has no right to prevent anyone from reviewing his album, and any copyright issues should clearly fall under fair use.

Second, why? They were clearly praising the record and it's importance to Prince's career and influence over the sound of the 80s.

It's shit like this, where Prince and/or his lawyers are clearly in the wrong, using bully tactics to prevent FANS from participating in a completely legal activity: reviewing a record. This is a major reason so many former fans are just that, FORMER fans.

On another note, check out the newest episode of Prince Podcast, they're doing a commentary on a bootleg: 4 Those Of U On Valium!

Sweeeeet!!!

djThunderfunk said:

On another note, check out the newest episode of Prince Podcast, they're doing a commentary on a bootleg: 4 Those Of U On Valium!

Sweeeeet!!!

That was a good one!!! The part about Wally's "MOOBS" was funny

djThunderfunk said:

controversy99 said:

djThunderfunk said:

Not trying to bump my own thread, but, it beats starting a new one, no?

Anyway...

I was just listening to the most recent The Music Snobs Podcast, and they mentioned that back in September Prince's lawyers had the 2 part episodes reviewing 1999 for it's 30th anniversary removed from Soundcloud.

First of all, how? Prince has no right to prevent anyone from reviewing his album, and any copyright issues should clearly fall under fair use.

Second, why? They were clearly praising the record and it's importance to Prince's career and influence over the sound of the 80s.

It's shit like this, where Prince and/or his lawyers are clearly in the wrong, using bully tactics to prevent FANS from participating in a completely legal activity: reviewing a record. This is a major reason so many former fans are just that, FORMER fans.

On another note, check out the newest episode of Prince Podcast, they're doing a commentary on a bootleg: 4 Those Of U On Valium!

Sweeeeet!!!

Having them take the episodes down was ridiculous ... but typical. And now apparently Jehan doesn't listen to Prince anymore. There's a funny line in a recent The Music Snops episode where one of them visits Jehan, and he's listening to obscure Minneapolis sound folks just to get his fix. Btw, I think those 2 episodes were about Prince's career overall. The 30th anniversary was just a jumping off point, if I remember correctly.

Well, I obviously will not be able to hear those episodes now. But I have to ask, for those who heard them, did they also include actual snippets of prince music? if so, then that may have been what caused a problem. The prince podcast tries to never have anything like that for those very reasons.

1nonly said:

controversy99 said:

djThunderfunk said: Having them take the episodes down was ridiculous ... but typical. And now apparently Jehan doesn't listen to Prince anymore. There's a funny line in a recent The Music Snops episode where one of them visits Jehan, and he's listening to obscure Minneapolis sound folks just to get his fix. Btw, I think those 2 episodes were about Prince's career overall. The 30th anniversary was just a jumping off point, if I remember correctly.

Well, I obviously will not be able to hear those episodes now. But I have to ask, for those who heard them, did they also include actual snippets of prince music? if so, then that may have been what caused a problem. The prince podcast tries to never have anything like that for those very reasons.

I don't remember, I'd have to go back and relisten to answer, but...

Peach and Black has snippets of every song in every review, which I believe is 100% legal under fair use, so, that shouldn't be enough.

BTW, the last episode of The Truth podcast that I listened to played one of the Breakfast Can Wait tracks in its entirety. How the funk did they get away with that?!?