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Reply #240 posted 02/04/14 5:39am

Giovanni777

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novabrkr said:

Anyone could come up with a riff like what's used on "Guitar" and "I Will Follow". Turn up the distortion on an amplifier and it begs you to play something like that sooner or later.

Having said, I do hear "Iron Man" here. It's, once more, a very simplistic type of a hook that is bound to resemble other songs, but it sounds like he must have been aware of the similarities this time around. Maybe sending those flowers to Sharon Osbourne was a pre-emptive strategy? razz

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Good points. Although I hear why folks are comparing it to 'Iron Man', I actually hear more of a Joan Jett and the Blackhearts vibe to it... although I've only heard the 1:59 clip, not the wholoe song.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #241 posted 02/04/14 5:51am

luvsexy4all

blah blah ...its good leave it at that...nothing stolen...

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Reply #242 posted 02/04/14 6:18am

novabrkr

I don't have anything against artists using short bits from other artists' works in their music. However, it seems that there are some people on this site that will use just about anything as an excuse to attack the "late-career" Prince. I'm not sure if what's done with this song counts as a copyright violation either.

In this case it sounds like Prince is actually using short bits from "Iron Man" and made something else from them (however, it's not the guitar riff that's similar, like some individuals here seem to believe). I don't have a problem with what's done here and I think it's cool that he's referencing Sabbath.


I should stress that melodies are not constructed randomly. The conventions for making them are very strong. Especially if we're talking about "hooks". There's no way you can come up with something simplistic that's catcy and avoid having similarities with the thousands and thousands of songs that are already out there.

[Edited 2/4/14 6:21am]

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Reply #243 posted 02/04/14 6:25am

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novabrkr said:

I don't have anything against artists using short bits from other artists' works in their music. However, it seems that there are some people on this site that will use just about anything as an excuse to attack the "late-career" Prince. I'm not sure if what's done with this song counts as a copyright violation either.

In this case it sounds like Prince is actually using short bits from "Iron Man" and made something else from them (however, it's not the guitar riff that's similar, like some individuals here seem to believe). I don't have a problem with what's done here and I think it's cool that he's referencing Sabbath.


I should stress that melodies are not constructed randomly. The conventions for making them are very strong. Especially if we're talking about "hooks". There's no way you can come up with something simplistic that's catcy and avoid having similarities with the thousands and thousands of songs that are already out there.

[Edited 2/4/14 6:21am]

i am a fan of sabbath ..theres no infringement

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Reply #244 posted 02/04/14 7:55am

udo

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Listened a bit more to this song.

It feels, smells and sounds like it was recorded relatively quickly.

Almost a demo.

It was not toyed with for ages, as it appears to me. Am I mistaken?

It has a hint of hiss even. A tad of the `Prince` of years ago.

I do not mean that to qualify the piece but just a sa reference to the person we used to know.

What do you think?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #245 posted 02/04/14 9:04am

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udo said:

Listened a bit more to this song.

It feels, smells and sounds like it was recorded relatively quickly.

Almost a demo.

It was not toyed with for ages, as it appears to me. Am I mistaken?

It has a hint of hiss even. A tad of the `Prince` of years ago.

I do not mean that to qualify the piece but just a sa reference to the person we used to know.

What do you think?

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I think that what you are saying is reminding me of the album 'Dirty Mind'... ironic that they used "When you were Mine" in the New Girl episode.

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Also, something hasn't mentioned here... 'NewGirl' is a morph of "New Power Generation" and "3rdEye Girl". Hmmm...

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[Edited 2/4/14 9:04am]

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Reply #246 posted 02/04/14 9:27am

BlackandRising

just heard it after reading the initial posts regarding the teaser. Initial negative comments now seem exceedingly funny. My personal opinion is that this shit is on point. Just some head-bobbing, old-fashioned, guitar-driven music. I've been waiting for him to do this kind of stuff for a long time, being a fan of both rock and funk. I mean, hes been doing them both for a long time, but this current iteration is much more rock-driven. if Plectrum Electrum sounds like this, the current re-load of "Let's Go Crazy", etc., then I'm a happy brotha.

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Reply #247 posted 02/04/14 10:57am

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Kinda catchy.

Guitar solo could've been better executed....

Fun song though.

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Reply #248 posted 02/04/14 11:22am

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Giovanni777 said:



udo said:


Listened a bit more to this song.


It feels, smells and sounds like it was recorded relatively quickly.


Almost a demo.


It was not toyed with for ages, as it appears to me. Am I mistaken?


It has a hint of hiss even. A tad of the `Prince` of years ago.


I do not mean that to qualify the piece but just a sa reference to the person we used to know.



What do you think?



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I think that what you are saying is reminding me of the album 'Dirty Mind'... ironic that they used "When you were Mine" in the New Girl episode.


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Also, something hasn't mentioned here... 'NewGirl' is a morph of "New Power Generation" and "3rdEye Girl". Hmmm...


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[Edited 2/4/14 9:04am]


OMG...throw the decoder rings away people....he done cracked the code!
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Reply #249 posted 02/04/14 11:27am

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Byron said:



BobGeorge909 said:


Byron said:



Lookit all that Christian prosthelytizing and self-help nonsense.



Just 2 b certain....u're being sarcastic...right?


See below lol



Superconductor said:


Plectrum electrum is fine. Fixurlifeup or liveoutloud or pretzelbodylogic is cringeworthy. Self help slogans. I am wondering whether the new "debut album" will be a preachy christian rock album. Apologies to practicing christians.


So I'm gonna go with yes...u were being sarcastic?

I don't see nothing 'christian' about pretzelbodylogic or fulu or lol....and if having a positive message makes one christian...I guess my atheist ass is christian despite my best wishes?

I didn't know Christians had the positivity market on lockdown.
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Reply #250 posted 02/04/14 12:55pm

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I couldn't see this posted already, apologies if old news.

BBC 6Music breakfast show played this yesterday, it's on line if you want it, plus a bit of chat about the 'tour' and 'PressConferenceThatMightNeverHappen'. Approx 50mins in. (might need to click Listen Again):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03tcgtk

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Reply #251 posted 02/04/14 12:59pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both too sleepy to get the gun Wake up Hear the plane hummin' back on the run One hour of sleep between 'em Better than none Promoter tried to rob her We said, "go 'head son!" Cuz we both too sleepy To get the gun Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both too sleepy to get the gun Banks on holiday credit's overrun Somebody else's problem Too tired for another one Pull the shades hunny Black out the sun I need a little more rest Then we'll do what needs to be done Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun Limo on the tarmac ready to ride Cutie pie driver said, "Get inside!" Another limousine about to get a load Put your seat back now its 1, 2, 3 for the road Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun [Edited 2/3/14 15:30pm]

corrections ^

If Prince is too sleepy to get the gun, he should take Viagra. See how he partly blames the woman by saying "we both too sleepy." Why is it her fault Prince can't get the gun???? lol Anyway, by verse 3 this problem was corRECTED & he makes sure to point out the limousine driver is a woman or it would be weird. biggrin Do you also realize this makes 2 songs in a row about 69ing? (some people might not know that means giving & receiving oral sex at the same time). Da Bourgeoisie has the lyrics "bearded lady" so if 2 women are 69ing & they do not have shaved "bouquets" (Prince calls that hair a "little wig") that his ex-girlfriend is "snatching" to wear as a beard. I'm not sure anybody pointed this out, but the meaning seemed obvious to me. Anyway, I think understanding song lyrics gives the listener a better appreciation for the music / art. I like both songs!!! (not for the content, but for the musicianship & vocals). smile

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Reply #252 posted 02/04/14 2:55pm

NDRU

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I have not heard the whole thing, but not surprisingly, I think the music sounds great, and the lyrics/vocals sound juvenile and even slightly awkward.

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Reply #253 posted 02/04/14 5:26pm

Stymie

1p1p1i3 said:

I couldn't see this posted already, apologies if old news.

BBC 6Music breakfast show played this yesterday, it's on line if you want it, plus a bit of chat about the 'tour' and 'PressConferenceThatMightNeverHappen'. Approx 50mins in. (might need to click Listen Again):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03tcgtk

That's an org name I haven't seen in forever!! biggrin

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Reply #254 posted 02/04/14 8:09pm

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Beekbeek said:



BobGeorge909 said:


Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both too sleepy to get the gun Wake up Hear the plane hummin' back on the run One hour of sleep between 'em Better than none Promoter tried to rob her We said, "go 'head son!" Cuz we both too sleepy To get the gun Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both too sleepy to get the gun Banks on holiday credit's overrun Somebody else's problem Too tired for another one Pull the shades hunny Black out the sun I need a little more rest Then we'll do what needs to be done Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun Limo on the tarmac ready to ride Cutie pie driver said, "Get inside!" Another limousine about to get a load Put your seat back now its 1, 2, 3 for the road Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun Pretzelbodylogic is so much fun Dreamin' of each other On each others tongue Taste the bittersweet undone Now we both to sleepy to get the gun [Edited 2/3/14 15:30pm]


corrections ^



If Prince is too sleepy to get the gun, he should take Viagra. See how he partly blames the woman by saying "we both too sleepy." Why is it her fault Prince can't get the gun???? lol Anyway, by verse 3 this problem was corRECTED & he makes sure to point out the limousine driver is a woman or it would be weird. biggrin Do you also realize this makes 2 songs in a row about 69ing? (some people might not know that means giving & receiving oral sex at the same time). Da Bourgeoisie has the lyrics "bearded lady" so if 2 women are 69ing & they do not have shaved "bouquets" (Prince calls that hair a "little wig") that his ex-girlfriend is "snatching" to wear as a beard. I'm not sure anybody pointed this out, but the meaning seemed obvious to me. Anyway, I think understanding song lyrics gives the listener a better appreciation for the music / art. I like both songs!!! (not for the content, but for the musicianship & vocals). smile



How old r u?


Its not a reference to not being able to get it up.

The 2 involved are tired/sleepy of too endorphined out to bother reacting violently to an adverse situation. They've been 69'ing/boning/intertwining too much to have a desire to go grab guns and shoot people after they've been wronged.

Like u said...understanding the lyrics helps u appreciate the art better. U shid listen to your own advice and try for a better understanding of the lyrics....




Also...I'm sure 100% of the world knows what 69ing is...but thanx for explaining anyway.
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Reply #255 posted 02/04/14 9:11pm

rap

novabrkr said:

Anyone could come up with a riff like what's used on "Guitar" and "I Will Follow". Turn up the distortion on an amplifier and it begs you to play something like that sooner or later.

Having said, I do hear "Iron Man" here. It's, once more, a very simplistic type of a hook that is bound to resemble other songs, but it sounds like he must have been aware of the similarities this time around. Maybe sending those flowers to Sharon Osbourne was a pre-emptive strategy? razz

When did Prince send her flowers and what was it in regards to?

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Reply #256 posted 02/04/14 10:05pm

kidmelody2012

the riff sounds like a kindergardener made it up! its so basic and unfunky its embarassing

npgmc said:

sounds like shit, prince really needs stop trying 2 sounds like some rnb girl...

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Reply #257 posted 02/05/14 12:20am

novabrkr

rap said:

novabrkr said:

Anyone could come up with a riff like what's used on "Guitar" and "I Will Follow". Turn up the distortion on an amplifier and it begs you to play something like that sooner or later.

Having said, I do hear "Iron Man" here. It's, once more, a very simplistic type of a hook that is bound to resemble other songs, but it sounds like he must have been aware of the similarities this time around. Maybe sending those flowers to Sharon Osbourne was a pre-emptive strategy? razz

When did Prince send her flowers and what was it in regards to?

Sharon defended Prince on TV after he sued those bootleg sites:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...mp;index=5

Then he sent her flowers as a "thank you" gesture:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...mp;index=2

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Reply #258 posted 02/05/14 12:43am

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^^ thanks for making your links clickable. I'm usually on a mobile device so I won't look at a link posted here unless clickable.

I'm really impressed by the flower arrangement. I wonder which florist he used. I like the use of tropical, roses, and lilies.
I recall another story someone related about him sending flowers after she let him eat her fries or something. Seems to be a pattern - be nice to P, get flowers.
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Reply #259 posted 02/05/14 6:19am

Byron

artist76 said:

recall another story someone related about him sending flowers after she let him eat her fries or something. Seems to be a pattern - be nice to P, get flowers.


Please tell me that's not a euphemism neutral...

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Reply #260 posted 02/05/14 6:44am

Byron

Here's a few reviews of the song itself from outside the p.org world lol:


The first single “Pretzelbodylogic” is emblematic of the album: thick low-end, with a big focus on overdriven guitars, riff-based funk rock. I wrote down “Lenny Kravitz” but I also wrote down “Jet?” during it. It is assuredly the meanest-sounding Prince song in a while, all snarls and leather jackets and pants (with heels). This will probably be said a lot surrounding the album, but the motto for PlectrumElectrum might be: Lose Yrself 2 Funk Rock.

http://news.radio.com/201...bodylogic/


Spiked with party chants and simple guitar revving, the tune echoes the smart sensibilities of Sly Stone jams. The chorus doesn’t touch the magnificence of “1999″ or “Little Red Corvette,” which seems to sound like a cluttered rant carved out using Lenny Kravitz leftovers. But most of the funky template and even funkier lyrics (“Another limousine about to get a load/Put your seat back now; it’s one, two, three for the road”) prove that Prince still has a way to get your attention, even if it’s for a little while.

http://hifimagazine.net/b...bodylogic#

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Reply #261 posted 02/05/14 9:40am

TrevorAyer

this is prince worst piece of shit song since screwdriver .. not too long ago eh .. if u wanna know why haters still hang on .. its cuz we are trying to figure out HOW exactly prince got this bad .. it is a mind blowing / numbing puzzle with only 2 obvious conclusions .. 1 . prince never had the real talent to begin with and stole most of his good ideas and simply performed them himself .. or 2. prince is a crack head ... i don't want to believe either so please .. those that sniff the purple ass perfume .. how did he get this bad .. and don't tell me this shit is just as good as he has ever been .. or that its better than everyone else his age .. those are both lies .. this song is dumber than when he put 'motherfucking' as every other lyric for a few years .. prince replaced curse words with just plain stupid words he makes up .. and not in a good way like "lovesexy" .. what the hell does "too sleepy to get the gun mean" .. never mind .. it is too stupid of a lyric to even care about .. how about he change it to "too sleepy to write decent lyrics, melodies, guitar riffs, drum beats" .. ahh that would be hard to fit into the chorus .. but you know prince is the king of ackwardly jamming too many sylables into a lyrical phrase and pretending it even remotely makes sense as a song or a lyrical theme .. this song sucks .. have I mentioned that .. the new girl tune had more potential .. he probably ruins it anyway .. or didn't write it .. thats more likely

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Reply #262 posted 02/05/14 11:49am

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bigd74 said:

IstenSzek said:

wait, and "groovy potential" was the outtake? falloff





Groovy Potential doesn't sound like 3EG, more NPG. smile


nod i love it and pretzel too
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Reply #263 posted 02/05/14 1:34pm

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Verses are kind of boring but overall I like it.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #264 posted 02/05/14 9:35pm

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artist76 said:

^^ thanks for making your links clickable. I'm usually on a mobile device so I won't look at a link posted here unless clickable.

lol lol lol

That right there cracks me up!

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Reply #265 posted 02/05/14 11:29pm

rap

novabrkr said:

rap said:

When did Prince send her flowers and what was it in regards to?

Sharon defended Prince on TV after he sued those bootleg sites:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...mp;index=5

Then he sent her flowers as a "thank you" gesture:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...mp;index=2

thank you

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Reply #266 posted 02/06/14 10:54am

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Here is an article on the song's chart performace

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/06/princes-new-single-set-to-bomb-as-it-fails-to-make-top-100-in-midweek-charts-4293208/

Not sure how to post so you can click it directly, ggrr.

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Reply #267 posted 02/06/14 11:46am

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Aside from the vocals, the music sorta reminds me of I Love Rock and Roll from Joan Jett and the Blackhearts.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #268 posted 02/06/14 11:55am

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News on UK chart performance, hope it works

http://metro.co.uk/2014/0...s-4293208/

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Reply #269 posted 02/06/14 6:08pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

Beekbeek said:

Its not a reference to not being able to get it up. The 2 involved are tired/sleepy of too endorphined out to bother reacting violently to an adverse situation. They've been 69'ing/boning/intertwining too much to have a desire to go grab guns and shoot people after they've been wronged. Like u said...understanding the lyrics helps u appreciate the art better. U shid listen to your own advice and try for a better understanding of the lyrics.... Also...I'm sure 100% of the world knows what 69ing is...but thanx for explaining anyway. [Edited 2/4/14 20:22pm]

I think you are misinterpreting the lyrics. 3rdeyegirl tweeted: ""PRETZELBODYLOGIC" is a hard-hitting funk jam about resting up to build up enough energy to get it on...." Also, Pretzelbodylogic (the word) is THINKING about how to twist their bodies into sex positions, so they haven't done anything to get tired. Verse 2 says "I need a little more rest, then we'll do what needs to be done" which happens in verse 3. Too tired, not in the mood, impotent, however you want to put it, there's not much difference, therefore "get the gun" has to have some sexual meaning. What do they say to men in the Viagra commercials? So when the moment comes you will be ready.... A gun (which is long, hard & points) in this song is a metaphor for a boner because it's the first thing required for getting it on. You are saying Prince will not fight bootlegging or let people take advantage of him because he is too tired? That's just dumb. You think Prince has a temper problem? I don't think so. React violently? Shoot people? That's crazy!!! Do Prince's girlfriends help him with his fights? No. The line about the promoter is meant to throw off the listener from the real meaning which is in the chorus. If the chorus means what you say it means, that would make no sense because this song is about imagining, not doing & why that is. Prince doesn't say "I am too sleepy" because that would be embarassing & maybe she feels the same way???? smile

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