I admire how he has seemingly invented a few genres, while perfecting a few. He took what Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Sly Stone did and perfected it. He outrocked all the rockstars in the 70's, was more new wave, pop, and metal than all the 80's bands. He was the only REAL r&b artist in the 90's. And the 00's had him doing jazz! why can't todays artists do this?

Everyone nowadays has jacked from Prince! even the greats like Stevie Wonder & Jody Wately copied him in the 80's.

I can't wait to see what else P will invent

no he's not the most orginal artist..... Purple Rain look and Lotusflow3r are Hendrix rip offs

Kobe said:

no he's not the most orginal artist..... Purple Rain look and Lotusflow3r are Hendrix rip offs

Inspired by! dude was inspired by Hendrix. And managed to best him in guitar playing and lyrics.

inspired? on the other thread you have been racist about white artists ripping of black artists...make your damn mind dude

Kobe said:

inspired? on the other thread you have been racist about white artists ripping of black artists...make your damn mind dude

Not racists dude! just the truth. Damn... white folks bent out of shape about the truth.

The truth is no white artist IS original. They all stole from others... and it's time we get our due.

I could easily say black folks are bent out of shape in not realizing Obama is mixed race

stolenlove said:

Kobe said:

inspired? on the other thread you have been racist about white artists ripping of black artists...make your damn mind dude

Not racists dude! just the truth. Damn... white folks bent out of shape about the truth.

The truth is no white artist IS original. They all stole from others... and it's time we get our due.

nursev said:

Lock....

what?

I ind of hate to say anything since Kobe and stolenlove seem to have things to themselves, but

NO ARTIST (of any race) is original--they all "stole" from somewhere, and usually from anyone they could (regardless of race). That doesn't mean the people in question were free of race-related hatreds, fears, or prejudices, or above using the racial attitudes of their time to their own advantage if possible--just that art (and artists) is omnivorous, eating anything that's available in order to grow.

I could careless about what race makes the music as long it's good.... Stolenlove is on some trip trying to prove a point with its ignorance.... music is the key regardless where it comes from

EddieC said:

I ind of hate to say anything since Kobe and stolenlove seem to have things to themselves, but

NO ARTIST (of any race) is original--they all "stole" from somewhere, and usually from anyone they could (regardless of race). That doesn't mean the people in question were free of race-related hatreds, fears, or prejudices, or above using the racial attitudes of their time to their own advantage if possible--just that art (and artists) is omnivorous, eating anything that's available in order to grow.

stolenlove said:

Kobe said:

inspired? on the other thread you have been racist about white artists ripping of black artists...make your damn mind dude

Not racists dude! just the truth. Damn... white folks bent out of shape about the truth.

The truth is no white artist IS original. They all stole from others... and it's time we get our due.

Are you serious? Now I remember how Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart,

Ludwig van Beethoven, Richard Wagner and other white artists or composers

stole the music from dr dre, snoop tiger or whatever his name or Nikci Minej.

Its really time we get our due...

stupidity has no limits!!

:lock this shit:

FragileUndertow said:

FragileUndertow said:

:lock this shit:

What is the wrong with you people i was expressing my opinion! is this not a damn prince fan site?

stolenlove said:

I admire how he has seemingly invented a few genres, while perfecting a few. He took what Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Sly Stone did and perfected it. He outrocked all the rockstars in the 70's, was more new wave, pop, and metal than all the 80's bands. He was the only REAL r&b artist in the 90's. And the 00's had him doing jazz! why can't todays artists do this?

Everyone nowadays has jacked from Prince! even the greats like Stevie Wonder & Jody Wately copied him in the 80's.

I can't wait to see what else P will invent

.

You kidding me!?

He went downhill whe he started sounding like all the other "REAL R&B artists" from the 90's.

.

Hasn't done anything original since........................... the COME era.

stolenlove said:

Kobe said:

inspired? on the other thread you have been racist about white artists ripping of black artists...make your damn mind dude

Not racists dude! just the truth. Damn... white folks bent out of shape about the truth.

The truth is no white artist IS original. They all stole from others... and it's time we get our due.

This just reveals a great deal of ignorance.

prince does not even come close to "besting" jimi hendrix on guitar or lyrics .. jeesh u people need to pull yer head out of prince asshole every once in a while and come up for air

stolenlove said:

I admire how he has seemingly invented a few genres, while perfecting a few. He took what Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Sly Stone did and perfected it. He outrocked all the rockstars in the 70's, was more new wave, pop, and metal than all the 80's bands. He was the only REAL r&b artist in the 90's. And the 00's had him doing jazz! why can't todays artists do this?

Everyone nowadays has jacked from Prince! even the greats like Stevie Wonder & Jody Wately copied him in the 80's.

I can't wait to see what else P will invent

Obviously you have very little musical culture.

Prince certainly isn't the most original artist of the past 4 decades nor did he create any genre at all (though he created a subgenre of funk with the minneapolis sound). Prince is certainly one of the most creative, prolific and talented musical artists of the past 4 decades, and he certainly took the word "funk" to the next level, but the credits you give him make little sense. He didn't outrock anyone in the 70's (his career was barely starting at the end of that decade). He certainly was a major force in the post punk/new wave scene of the 80's, in part because he took the sound of that scene to the world of R&B which was quite ignoring it so far, but it doesn't discard other legendary acts such as Gary Numan or The Human League. As for metal I have no idea where you've heard metal in Prince's music. He can be rock but metal?! What you say about the 90's is sheer nonsense (what is "real" anyway?). And as for Prince's short-lived jazz experimentations in the early 2000's, I won't say anything against them because I'm madly in love with them but Prince didn't reinvent the genre either.

It is true nonetheless that Prince was probably the most influencial artist of the 80's, and that everyone and their cousin, including his predecessors, incorporated elements of the Minneapolis sound in their music back then. The influence faded quickly in the late 80's/early 90's, though. It is true as well that Prince is now one of the most influencial figures of Afro-American music alongside Duke Ellington, Coltrane, Miles, Hendrix, Sly, James Brown, Clinton, Stevie Wonder and a few others, and that he remains a major influence for the highly dynamic synthpop scene of the last 10 years. But if you dig you'll realize that there have been countless extremely creative and talented musical artists these last 40 years, in countless genres, and that Prince has actually explored quite a limited palette of musical genres. He certainly explored more genres than many artists, but there are many more genres he's never touched that there are genres he's touched, and several artists who've been more explorative than he has (try Bill Laswell for one).

Nonetheless, I'm very much looking forward to seeing what P will come-up with next. I just think your analysis (or non-analysis) is way too emphatic and makes little sense altogether.

this generation of prince "fans" r wack

So who is the most original artist of the past 4 decades?

Byron said:

So who is the most original artist of the past 4 decades?

There's no such thing, the premise of the question is silly in itself. But just to quote the first example that comes to mind, Björk's sound, overall, is more indiosyncratic than Prince's.

databank said:

Byron said:

So who is the most original artist of the past 4 decades?

There's no such thing, the premise of the question is silly in itself. But just to quote the first example that comes to mind, Björk's sound, overall, is more indiosyncratic than Prince's.

Prezactly. The answer to that is subjective to one's taste. A poll taken from a list of artists might be a better way to arrive at that conclusion.

I Really hate when people make statements like these. Prince is amazing, he's a genius (And that word gets tossed around a lot... but he is)

But, i hate when people overrated Prince. HELL WHEN THEY DO IT WITH ANYBODY. Recent someone named Prince the best guitarist on earth prince is a fantastic guitar player. Who in recent years from hundreds of guitar magazines has gotten his dues finally. But, best on earth? wow, no.

Then there's the Prince ''is music'' fams who act like he's the only musician that ever mattered Prince is a great musician! and one of the best of all time. But he's not...

The Most Original
The Best Musician Of All Time
The best songwriter of the past 4 decades
The best singer of all time.

Gunsnhalen said:

I Really hate when people make statements like these. Prince is amazing, he's a genius (And that word gets tossed around a lot... but he is)

But, i hate when people overrated Prince. HELL WHEN THEY DO IT WITH ANYBODY. Recent someone named Prince the best guitarist on earth prince is a fantastic guitar player. Who in recent years from hundreds of guitar magazines has gotten his dues finally. But, best on earth? wow, no.

Then there's the Prince ''is music'' fams who act like he's the only musician that ever mattered Prince is a great musician! and one of the best of all time. But he's not...

The Most Original
The Best Musician Of All Time
The best songwriter of the past 4 decades
The best singer of all time.

Usually these people are teenagers and/or uneducated.

Maybe in the 1980s with his dance pop aesethic that inspired imitators everywhere.

But not the other decades because

1970s Too unknown and too late to make any real waves, even I wanna be your lover only really took off in December 79 and was peaking in January/February 1980.

1980s - Totally a stream of classic albums, assured playing and funky as hell music and image, made Prince the instant template. All the albums from 1980's Dirty Mind to 1988's Lovesexy were full of classic Prince songs, and the outtakes and bootlegs showed an artist with a high level of talent, imagination, passion, genius and musical ability. They also showcase his lack of ability to refine and curb his raw talent and as time wore on, the lack of control over consistent quality standards became apparent. 1989's Batman album was the first not to offer a new dimension or influence, it dated quickly and contained a lot of filler alongside some classic songs.

1990s Too quirky and self indulgent and obsessed with chasing current pop rap themes. Some good mind blowing material like TGE and Lovesymbol, these were merely great Prince albums with a tried and tested Prince formula from the 80s. The 1990s was also dominated by his chasing of rapping trends with a stream of very bad rappers like Tony M, Scrap D, TC ellis and Carmen Electra. Several 90s albums were also very bad and drowning in a sea of self indulgence. Although his name changing stunt and slave act gave him publicity still, TTD changed his name to emulate it. But after Emancipation, the public stopped caring and about 1997 Prince was officially out of the top league of stars and entertainers.

2000's Too out of the mainstream, the chart audiences along with musical forms had moved on. Prince's music of the 2000s ranged between flawed concept albums like The Rainbow Children and light dance records with a few better songs next to the tired Jazzique standards you expect from a middle aged musician past his prime. Whereas many artists got inspired off his 80s music, few could feel inspired from his 2000s material, where most of his better stuff was rehashes of his 80s prime and covers.

2010s apart from 20Ten which reads for the comments above and a few lacklustre and kind of okay singles, Prince's work for this decade has been lacking and missing. Since 2000 however he has kind of maintained his hard core fans, but as they move into middle age, they will eventually drift away from him and die out. Prince's behaviour towards the public (Anti fan, gagging of media, quirky behaviour, producing talentless starlets) has also cost him any new admirers, casual fans and eroded away at the hardcore fan base.

[Edited 1/23/14 2:14am]

stolenlove said:

Kobe said:

no he's not the most orginal artist..... Purple Rain look and Lotusflow3r are Hendrix rip offs

Inspired by! dude was inspired by Hendrix. And managed to best him in guitar playing and lyrics.

CocoRock said: