Getting sued for sharing Let's Go Crazy "Reloaded"

The karnt should PAY them for get that out there!

I wonder what would happen if those who criticize Prince were writing a book and weren't happy with 50 pages, but someone stole them and released them without permission.

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That's simply ignorance of what intellectual or artistic creation is. Plain ignorance.

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come on..its clear the playing field ...thats all

Prince is of course well within his rights to do this, the law is the law.

I'd guess that if someone presented him with hard figures on loss of earnings from the bad feeling that come from this kind of clumsy lawsuit he might be willing to consider the issue at hand.

It's a scandalous shame, though I suspect P only does that to scare the shit outta every one wanting 2 share boots and will withdraw the lawsuits. I mean if these poeple had to pay 1 million bucks it'd basically mean their lives would be ruined... forever! Little to do with "love 4 1 another", would it? It already happened in 2002 with that dude from freeyourheart.com who'd shared a few ONA Tour tracks. P threatened to sue the life outta him, he withdrew, P withdrew the charges. The media for one thing would butcher him if he was to really sue these people who never made a dime out of sharing boots.

u people need to stop insulting him EVERYTIME this stuff happens...he knows what hes doing

nursev said:

NinaB said:

SoulAlive said:

luvsexy4all said:

u people need to stop insulting him EVERYTIME this stuff happens...he knows what hes doing

Well I'm always defending Prince here but on this one I can understand the anger. Putting the sites down is one thing and it's fair enough, but asking people who probably have ordinary incomes and never made a profit of their sharing activities to pay 1 million bucks is basically condemning them to starvation for the rest of their lives. I'm quite certain, though, as stated above, that Prince will withdraw charges before it gets to that, but the mere idea of him not doing so is atrocious: can you imagine the panic the dudes behind these sites must be in?

u should be excited ..it does mean the new cd is coming soon

OzlemUcucu said:

murph said:

Has this made the news yet? I haven't seen any reports on this....

The only news is that he's denouncing worldwide 'private people's names worldwide. Somebody should sue him for causing bad reputation. I doubt a public figure as him is entitled by law to cause such harm and no he wouldn't be entitled 1M from each doe 1- 100 for shitty sound quality bootlegs that are hardly distributed.

He's thinking he just released a new album? What world is he living in?

Again...I need to see real reports on this...We all know how Prince can get down...But there were actual reports about dude going after the sites....This? I want to see some journalistic reports on this...As is, it's just sky-is-falling noise...

An exercise in futility, which is why Prince is a has-been and irrelevant now.

dualboot said:

(not directly serious but just a thought)

Can you countersue?

For providing a basis/platform for indirect income over the years. You can argue (succesfully) that a large portion of his income over the last 20 years found his basis in these recordings.

Sure. You can sue (or countersue) anybody for anything.... IF you have the money and IF you have the time.

Prince has lots of money AND lots of time.

nursev said:

If it wasnt for bootleggers his career wouldve been over years ago. He has done so much to make people forget him and they have. Yes bootlegging is wrong, but how long is he gonna pursue these lawsuits? And who is next? Dude will even go after regular ass fans...really sad.

Bingo.

CocoRock said:

NinaB said:

Who you kidding?

You aint got no boots?

....yeah right

Right?!

You know he does! and if he says he doesn't (which he will because he's just that predictable) he's L-Y-I-N-G.

dualboot said:

(not directly serious but just a thought)

Can you countersue?

For providing a basis/platform for indirect income over the years. You can argue (succesfully) that a large portion of his income over the last 20 years found his basis in these recordings.

no. you cannot

jaawwnn said:

novabrkr said:

He probably knows because he performed that snippet of "Moonbeam Levels" live soon after the Costello performance.

Track 9 on this

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i've always wondered if he got permission, it's not even the correct title...

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Was In A Large Room With No Light technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

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luvsexy4all said:

u should be excited ..it does mean the new cd is coming soon

No matter how looking forward to hearing the next album I am, I can't see myself being xcited at the idea of people's lives being ruined, or at the idea of them being scared to death until they know the outcome of this situation. Their lives is more precious than my pleasure at seeing a new P album being released, + I was more than happy to get some of the stuff these people were sharing for free instead of buying xpensive boots from people who all got away with making dough outta someone else's work like I had to do in the 90's because free downloads weren't an option then.

I didn't "insult" Prince here anyway, I've just shared my concern regarding this whole situation and my hopes that these people will be left alone when Prince will consider that they've learned a good lesson, which I'm sure they have.

I totally respect P's wishes not to have bootlegs of his work around even though I'm glad these bootlegs exist for me to listen to, but I think sending a C&D and/or taking the blogs down is more than enough. Or then why not ask a million bucks to every folk sharing his videos (and seeing them put down) on YT every day while we're at it. There must be a sense of measure. Morally speaking the annoyance these bootlegs sharers have caused Prince certainly isn't worth their lives being destroyed. Now contrarely to many here I still have a lot of respect for Prince as a person and I'm quite sure he won't go to such extremes in the end. But until he withdraws, my compassion goes to these people who must be in a total state of shock - I certainly would if someone was sueing me for a million bucks

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

:/

Was it technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

I believe the some guy's version came out before the prince stream. Someone on here dug up some personnell connection between this guy and prince but i've forgotten exactly what it was. Something along the lines of he's worked with people who have worked with Prince.

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CocoRock said:

One other thing of interest to me is that all of the songs listed in the posted legal documents have been officially released. I wonder if unreleased stuff has a copyright.

djThunderfunk said:

jaawwnn said:

Track 9 on this

http://www.allmusic.com/a...0002415120

i've always wondered if he got permission, it's not even the correct title...

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Was In A Large Room With No Light technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe Allan Smithee doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

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Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. Allan Smithee's album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted IALRWNL at ASCAP (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him

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Will he be remembered more for his music or suing fans?

databank said:

So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him

It's for sure that Prince's spies are reading this thread, so, Prince knows about this cover now.

databank said:

djThunderfunk said:

Was it technically released. I know we all have the "official" version, but, was it released, or was it a temporary stream that was not "supposed" to be saved? IIRC, it's the latter...

Maybe he doesn't know the real title (only heard bootlegs), maybe he's trying to obscure it so Prince won't notice?

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Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. his album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted it (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him

Yep it's all my fault. I'm actually a member of

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tab32792 said:

luv4u said:

Will he be remembered more for his music or suing fans?

He is not "suing fans". He's suing people who have distributed his art ilegally.

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jaawwnn said:

databank said:

Some German band had already released that song (on WB Europe IIRC!!!) in the late 80's or early 90's under a false title and got away with it. Allan Smithee's album dates back from 2009 but IDK what month. I guess if it was after the song was streamed it could be legal even though IDK if covers are free for songs that were only aired or streamed as they are for songs that received proper release (I guess there's no law about that and it would need to be ruled by a judge). There's another problem here, though: Prince never copyrighted IALRWNL at ASCAP (I've just checked) so basically I guess you can't cover a song if it's not copyrighted because u can't pay the royalties. So now thanks to you posting about it here I guess this poor guy's life is ruined for P will sue his life away from him

Yep it's all my fault. I'm actually a member of

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Sassey's gonna love that

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