Paul Peterson on recording the song "Feline" : (I was) trying to learn how to rap, I don't even know if they called it that then. I still remember that rap to this day for some reason. (Singing lyrics) "Feline, get my body working..." It was funky, it was nasty and I was worried about what my mom would think. (Laughs). You know, (Prince) never talked to me about what the plan was (for that song). He and I didn't communicate on that level. That was his baby. So, I can't say for sure.
There were two tracks that had been done that were going to be put on the second record. But, that was all put in the vault, because, (Peterson) left. But, we definitely had the plan of doing it. (Peterson's) unreleased track had something to do with a tiger or a jaguar, or something like that. I can't remember. You would have to ask him. It had to do with some animal. - Susnnah Melvoin
Feline (rehearsal) Purple Rain sound
Prince (vocals, guitars)
Brown Mark (bass) Bobby Z (drums/linn) Wendy Melvoin (guitar) Dr Fink (keyboards) Lisa Coleman (keyboards)
Greg Brooks (in the space) possibly other Family band/group members
The Family version
...everlasting her emotions, never blue Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night . Just the rhythm, I don't care what cords U play . haaaa look at them 2 them 2 funky over there Greg talkin 2 Mark both them legs are just... Oh I'm sorry 'musical technicians' . U want that uh yeah like 2 oclock? Cool
[launches into 2 a wicked guitar solo]
G G . 3 bass players just talking yeah yea I like that that's new yeah that's that new P__ oh ok how much that costs U man how much that's renten U ah Yeah that's funky . _ so so automatic I don't know what 2 to do My hard on, everlasting her emotions, never blue Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night . St Paul's my name making loves my game funky as I want 2 be line up a hundred swear 2 God I'll funk em till I just can't C cause I'm bad good God badder than the wicked witch ____ -___ ___ Don't U want be my ... . Organ solo . Guitars & Drums . Piano . Bobby Z . everybody uhhh . I __ baby U know just what 2 do My hard on everlasting her emotions, never blue Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night . On the 1 Good God . Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night Feline Keep My Body Working Feline all night . St Paul's my name making loves my game funky as I want 2 be line up a hundred swear 2 God I'll funk em till I just can't C cause I'm bad good God badder than the wicked witch ____ -___ ___ Don't U want be my ... Get off . uhhh . Mass appeal little boy smile make you happy all the while . I'm bad Good God I'm bad Good God . bass and drums . Wendy say gemmie some of that Wendy said gemmie a little bit of that.. put a little bit of that on my plate . Wendy . Got enough of Wendy's guitar? I can't hear it out here Got Wendy's guitar in the mix? I can't hear it Come on . Mass appeal little boy smile make you happy all the while I'm bad Good God . Drop out the guitars Drop out the bass . On the 1 . good God . . that belongs to somebody else tho we can't play Cinncinatit with that cause my man will come up on stage with a pistol . He must of got some money last night 03 03 (goes into the Screams of Passion)
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^^^ of course this is all guess work as it's a bootleg and we have never heard bootlegs She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo
If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me? | |
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right, it's a fantasy post, I love those | |
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Did anyone go to their 1st Avenue show in 1985? | |
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...if only!!! TRUE BLUE | |
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the Family full band line up . St Paul (Peterson) (lead vocals keyboard guitar) Susannah Melvoin (lead vocals) Eric Leeds (sax/flute) Jellybean Johnson (drums) Jerome Benton (vocals/dancer) . Mico Weaver (guitar) Alan Flowers (bass) Billy Carruthers (keyboards) Jonathan Melvoin (keyboards) . Wally Safford (backup dancer/singer) Gregory Brooks (backup dancer/singer)
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Prince Spreads His Talent AroundBy Divina Infusino
The San Diego Union-Tribune, July 31, 1985 Nonetheless, no one can deny that the Minneapolis dynamo is loaded with musical talent—so much talent that his work cannot be confined to just his own albums. . Prince uses David Z. for his work as producer (and who knows what else) with his latest, and publicly admitted, spin-off project, the Minneapolis-based band, The Family. Featuring members of The Time, including Jerome Benton, Morris Day's sidekick and the high-stepping valet in "Purple Rain," as well as new talent such as the cool voice of a woman singer named Susannah, The Family is obviously Prince's new R&B dance-funk outlet, replacing The Time. And like The Time's records, The Family's vinyl debut, a two-cut maxi-single titled "The Screams of Passion," is hot—hypnotic funk grooves without monotony. . The B side, "Yes," an instrumental track from The Family's forthcoming album, is the real giveaway of Prince's involvement, however. The cut is another dance track. But its loose rhythms and bizarre, unexpected musical twists are the kind only Prince's expansive musical imagination could create.
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[The Screams of Passion] B side, "Yes," an instrumental track from The Family's forthcoming album, is the real giveaway of Prince's involvement, however. The cut is another dance track. But its loose rhythms and bizarre, unexpected musical twists are the kind only Prince's expansive musical imagination could create. -By Divina Infusino | ||
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fDeluxe's St. Paul Peterson talks about the Minneapolis Sound, working with Prince, and the rebirth of the Family
There is so much lore surrounding that era of Minneapolis music. Can you shed some light on that time period, for those of us who didn't get to experience it first hand? | |||
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"The original vinyl is impossible to find these days." That makes me happy! Hey, Oldfriends, can you do a Jill Jones thread? Prettyplease? | |
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The Family album is definitely one of his best side-project albums, perhaps the best. It's got some really top-notch material on it that I wish Prince had kept for himself - in particular High Fashion/Mutiny, Nothing Compares 2 U and Desire. * * *
Prince's Classic Finally Expanded The Deluxe 'Purple Rain' Reissue http://www.popmatters.com...n-reissue/ | |
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Maybe if Prince did some of the songs duet or a combination of him- the Revolution/Family, it would be cool
He just had so much music they were creating between 1984-86 it's no way he could do it all | |
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The Screams of Passion
The Screams Of Passion is the third track on The Family's first and only album The Family, and, a month before the album's release, The Screams Of Passion was released as the album's first single. The song was written by Prince, but credited to St. Paul Peterson and Susannah Melvoin.-PrinceVault
THE SCREAMS of PASSION© 1985 Paisley Park Records
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Initial tracking took place on 19 August, 1984 at the Flying Cloud Drive Warehouse in Eden Prairie (two days after The Dance Electric and the day before God; a year to the day before the track's release on The Family album). St. Paul Peterson and Susannah Melvoin overdubbed vocals onto the track in late 1984 - early 1985, and Clare Fischer added orchestral overdubs during the same period. PrinceVault
faster than that F a little faster yeah F
just join right in anytime organ
put the step on Mark
the lighter U touch it the more it does C sensitive 2 the touch Ooooooh ooooah ooooah
Bobby the piano was 2 low last night could U C me? Turn it up alittle bit now
Ooooooah I'll need a little bit more voice 2night
Ooooooah Alright just play base notes on the organ, drop out the chords
There's a gentle autumn breeze blows My clothes I quickly, I quickly shed A picture that is waving, that it seems 2 be with every thrust U
Oh, a robin sings a masterpiece Whoa, hold me now, baby
drop out the bass organs, Stop
the Screams of Passion the screams of Passion
Everybody
the Screams of Passion tell me that u love me or is it passion
drop out the organ
Play some chords Wendy
organ
the Screams of Passion the Screams of Passion
the Screams of Passion the Screams of Passion
the Screams of Passion oooh hold me now baby tell me that u love me or was it passion baby or was it just the keyboards and the drums
Everybody
4 Screams of Passion the Screams of Passion
the Screams of Passion
come on now baby tell me that U love me or was it passion
the Screams of Passion
Yeeeeaaaaooowwwhh
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“The Screams of Passion” music video is hard for me to remember... I was so young and I was inexperienced with that kind of thing. We had been in rehearsals for such a long time to go on the road. We were rehearsing for a year before we went and did our first gig.
Doing the music video was just part of the rehearsal thing, (because), we were in work mode. I saw it only as a job, but, not a job where I said, “Oh, this is a pain in the ass to do and I wish I was home by 5 p.m.” No. It was all part of what we were working on at the time. It was sort of a package deal in terms of how I felt about it. It was just part of the plan.
I remember not having any expectations. Prince let us do a lot, too. There's a lot of people who think, that we, as The Family, didn't have any influence. But, that's not the case. He was there for part of the video, but, he wasn't really there (all the time). He wasn't the little guy dictator in the background saying “No, they can't do this or this is how it should be.” It wasn't like that. We had done pre-production for such a long time. We had fun, but, I wouldn't say that we were in heaven about it. It just wasn't like that. My memory of it was just working really hard. That's what I remember about it.
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The 1985 First Avenue Concert...we had the best time. It was great. I mean I look at it now--because, I have looked at it-- and I said “Oh my god!” It's amazing what young kids we were and we just kind of went for it. We were like crazy puppies on stage. It was a lot of fun and the house was sold out. We worked really frickin' hard for that show to get out there and do that... It's great seeing it. I laugh a lot when I watch it. I can't even believe that's me! My favorite moment was singing “Nothing Compares 2 U.” It was just a great moment to sing with (Peterson). It still is for us when we sing it. -Susannah Melvoin
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“Miss Understood” was not put on the (first) album, because, I didn't want it to be. I wanted it for the second record and I wanted to re-cut it. There wasn't time to re-cut it before it was going to mastering and I said “Prince, you can't put this on, I'm not happy with it. Let's wait until the second record.” Then we both decided to just do that. But, that never happened. It's just floating around out there in the ether, totally not the way I wanted it, but, whatever... It was just way too insincere. I didn't believe myself at all, how would anyone else believe me? It just wasn't something I was comfortable with. At the time, I sang it so many different times to give it something and I was sort of given direction on that song by Prince. I was just not feeling it.
But, at the end of the day, once I was done, I said, “Can I just do this again on the next record? Can I just re-cut it? There's some other ideas that I've come up with so I can get these words out.” Prince was nice about it. He was just said “Of course, let's wait for the second one. Let's just put (the album) out as is and we'll redo it the next time." I said “Great!”
There were two tracks that had been done that were going to be put on the second record. But, that was all put in the vault, because, (Peterson) left. But, we definitely had the plan of doing it. (Peterson's) unreleased track had something to do with a tiger or a jaguar, or something like that. I can't remember. You would have to ask him. It had to do with some animal. | |
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Clare Fisher, talk about a muse. He was my inspiration for getting the strings on the (first) record. Clare had done work with my father —my father being the arranger and Clare being the string arranger. So, I had that “in,” although, that was not how I was thinking about it at the time. Prince and I were listening to a bunch of Rufus records back in the day-- and this was before we thought about doing strings on the first record. We were talking about how brilliant the strings were on those albums. I had also been listening to a lot of Claus Ogerman and Bill Evans. There's one record they did called Symbiosis and it's just one of the most beautifully arranged records. Ogerman's string arrangement, and Evans playing the piano over it, is some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard.
The only thing that's ever came close to feeling as perfectly arranged in terms of the strings was on the Ruficized record. I just said, “Prince, why don't we get Clare to do the strings on our record?” He said, “Yeah.” I said, “My dad knows him.” I called my dad and said “Pop, you gotta call Clare and see if he's up for it.” He was.
We sent him the 24 track. He got back to us right away and said “Absolutely.” Within a month we had all the lead sheets and we had the entire score for the record. We went in and cut it and I couldn't have been happier.
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Early Work After spending much of his teenage years in a variety of local rock’n'roll bands around Minneapolis, Z spent time between Minneapolis and Los Angeles throughout the early 1970s songwriting and engineering. His early work is perhaps most known over this period in his writing contributions for Gram Parsons’ first solo LP GP, particularly the track ‘How Much I’ve Lied’, before going on to play a major role in establishing not only the Minneapolis sound but through his innovative use of drum machines, loops and samples much of production aesthetic now synonymous with music from the 1980s. Many collaborations of material was produced by David at Paisley Park throughout the late 1980s and 90′s.
Prince During the mid-1970s, David encountered Prince playing around the Minneapolis scene. The pair went on to record a set of demos with Z engineering which ultimately led to Prince signing a recording deal with Warner Bros. Records. Although much of the detail of Z’s exact contributions to Prince’s albums is lost in the myth surrounding Prince and his prolific writing and recording, it is clear that his input, recording technique and production are intertwined intrinsically in to those recordings. His most well documented contributions to Prince’s folio of work are his writing, production and engineering on 1985 hit Kiss – originally a song given to the band Mazarati by Prince for their debut album which Z was producing[4] – and his recording and engineering of Purple Rain.
Winding back 26 years do you recall how The Family first came into being? Yeah. Everybody was in rehearsals for the 'Purple Rain' tour and I'd been working with Prince as his background vocalist, so I was already in the fold, as was Paul Peterson and all the other guys that were with The Time. The Time dissolved right before 'Purple Rain' was released and Prince said "I want to keep everybody working," and I think that he felt bad that The Time dissolved because there was so much great talent in it. He really believed at the time in Paul (Peterson), who was this young kid - both of us were babies. We were 18/19 years old and Paul was really incredible: he had this great voice and Morris (Day) and him used to do sing-offs. You could always hear Paul doing his thing and he was just fantastic and a great keyboard player and he's also one of the best bass players there is. So Prince got the band together – he also brought in (saxophonist) Eric Leeds. His first gig was with us. Eric is Alan Leeds' brother, who was Prince's road manager. Prince was given a tape of Eric's stuff. So Prince said, "I'd love to be able to put a band together and I'd like you, Paul, to be lead singer in this. How do you feel about that?" He said "yeah man, that would be great." It was the right thing and we all came together and Prince designed the record. He didn't give us songs he had in the vault: these were fresh songs designed for us. What was it like them working with Prince during that period? He wasn't working with us at all through that. He just went in and recorded songs and then just handed them over to me and Paul and David Z, who was producing it. And then he stepped out of the way. What are your memories of the recording sessions? I had a great time because a lot of the time I was here in Los Angeles and Paul was in Minneapolis. Paul and I were never together in the studio very often. I won't say never but not very often. So Paul would do his vocals with David Z and I would do my vocals with David and then David would do his thing. He pre-produced that record; he made those sounds on the album. It was great because his brother Bobby Z had written 'River Run Dry' (which appeared on the first album). We had an outside track on that record, which was again something that was an indication that Prince was letting it be what it was going to be on another kind of level for him. He relinquished a lot of the control. He wrote the tracks, designed them for us and then we took them. When we had the string date and went in with Clare Fischer, Prince wasn't actually there - it was all of us as a band and David. It was pretty nutritious. It felt really great and we knew that we were doing something really special. But then again we were also really young. I'd done sessions for other people but it was like 'here we are, doing our own record' and it was pretty great but no one really knew what was going to happen with it. Eric (Leeds) said that Prince wanted to write a hit record, that was his intention period. But Paul and I were not aware of any of that. We were just doing it. - Susannah Melvoin http://www.soulandjazzand...owall=1%20
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TONE: O'Neal went on to some success, didn't he?
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Wally Gregory Jerome & Susannah
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It's a shame the way this band collapsed so suddenly."The Screams Of Passion" was released in the summer of '85 and by November,Paul announced that he was leaving.It was the same situation with Mazarati.Two promising bands breaking up before they reached their potential.Who knows what would have happened if they had stayed together and kept it going throughout the rest of the 80s,at least
It's obvious that Prince was spreading himself too thin at that point.He was doing too many things.He was trying to run a record label,pursue a movie career,produce other artists,release records on his own,and still find time to tour.After Purple Rain,there seemed to be a big urgency (in his view) for him to do as many projects as he could.
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