you're full of it. you don't know prince. moreover, you're guessing and projecting what YOU think he would want. i think he's doing exactly what he likes these days and that's because just watch him: he is doing what he likes to do. and if he happens to flip his fans the bhird along the way? imo so much the better. | |
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U guys are really living in an imaginary world where everyone in the music industry sells 40 million copies of their albums BUT Prince. Do u have any idea of the cash Prince made with these albums? Musicology and Planet Earth were #3 on the Top 200, Lotusflow3r was #2, 3121 was #1. Musicology was platinum, 3121 was gold (no data available fro the 2 others). And let me remind you that this happened AFTER P2P networksand streaming made record sales drop considerably (more than 50% since 2000). Lotusflow3r sold 168,000 in its first week. The problem with y'all is that you're like spoiled kids who consider that a musician isn't successful if he won't sell 10 million copies or more. That's totally irrealistic, 90% of the records released on labels, majors or indies, sell less than 50,000 copies today. You are all HALLUCINATING, these albums were remarkable commercial and financial success. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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U know the more time I spend on this forum the more I have a feeling that many people here: - Have no idea that there's anything save what they see on MTV, hear on their mainstream radio channels and see listed on the Top 20. - Have no idea that there are other musical genres than what they see on MTV, hear on their mainstream radio channels and see listed on the Top 20. - Have no idea that the above is about 5% if not 1% of the total music industry, and that dozens of thousands of albums are being released every year, in dozens of musical genres. - Have no idea that what they see on MTV, hear on their mainstream radio channels and see listed on the Top 20 is mostly crap. - Have no idea that commercial success now have little to do, if anything, anymore with the quality of the work, because it's all marketing and the worst is usually marketed the most. - Have no idea that very FEW people now sell more than a million copies because record sales have considerably dropped since 2000. - Have no idea that you don't need to sell 5 million copies of each of your albums to be considered a succesful professional musician. - Have no idea that everyone in the music industry, artists, labels and tour managers, considers Prince to be a major force, a profitable artists whether we're talking sales or filling venues. - Have lost all sense of perspective: for example I'm quite sure that everyone here who says Prince's career is a failure have delirious notions of how many copies of their albums other artists of his generation or older sale. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Lotus flower has a gold plaque....he does exactly what he want to do when he wakes up | |
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Good post I agree with all of that. | |
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Best career move: the Purple Rain movie Worst career move: the slave era/going to war with Warners/changing his name to a symbol | |
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this most of all. prince has the respect of his peers and there's nothing more successful than that. he's stronger now than 30 years ago, and imo he's like one of those firelogs that not only never goes out, it gets brighter as it burns | |
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best career move: refusing to let earth wind & fire produce him early on | |
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Anyone who can get people to go to Connecticut in December hasn't ruined a damn thing! His career is fine and 30000 will testify to that.
When go 2 a Prince concert or related event it's all up in the house but when log onto this site and the miasma of bitchiness is completely overwhelming! | |
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HonestMan13 said: Anyone who can get people to go to Connecticut in December hasn't ruined a damn thing! His career is fine and 30000 will testify to that.
Ha. That's funny! I live in Connecticut and each show was sold out and jamming. Prince is doing what Prince wants to do. __________________________________________________
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Well I'd still say leaving the Revolution. I understand a lot of you long time fans will roll your eyes, but as a younger fan I just don't get the music from Lovesexy onwards. It sounds disjointed and confused at times. There certainly are gems,but it's gravel more than anything else for me. The live performaces and clothes were cool, but Alphabet Street was like the only decent track on there.
Music is subjective to the listeners prefences though, and I think that speaks to Princes appeal; he can have fans who grew up with his records from a certain time point and swear up and down by them, and have others who outright hate em'. I've just wish Prince could make a splash again with his albums. SOTT, PR, and Parade are like classics, and I even like 3121 and PE, but it's just not the same quality. It doesn't have to be drum machines and similar sounds, but please just give us an album we can all agree on again, something just amazing. | |
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Pur-lease, dude wants to have hits desperately. Dude wants to be a major player, just like he was in the 1980s. Just look at him desperately clinging to whatever current act he deems worthy of his attention. We already know one utterly ridiculous thing he's planning to do to promote his new album (that New Girl cameo) and there will be plenty more to come.
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Well, that'd be pretty easy if u ask me. Look at what Madonna and Kylie and Black Eyed Peas are doing: following the trends of the top-10! It's worked quite fine for them! Prince is more than capable to just stupidely imitate the generic sound of Justin Timberlake, Timbaland or Robin Thicke if he wants to: he's proven numerous times that he's good at being a copycat when he wants to, and he could perfectly be doing that instead of releasing Hendrix-like albums like lotusflw3r or self-homage albums like Mplsound and 20Ten. And he could also get any of the 3 majors left (Jesus, they were still 5 10 years ago!) to release and promote it if he wanted (doors are obviously open at Universal and Sony, and I doubt WB would reject him if he left them alone with the masters). + once again he's HAD hit albums every time he's tried lately: in terms of sales Musicology, 3121, Planet Earth and Lotusflow3r have been very satisfactory by current industry's standards. My feeling is that he could have 4 singles being #1 at the Top200 and sell 5 million copies of the related album that you'd still find excuses to say he's a commercial failure for some reason. It's the same with live shows, you're saying "he doesn't have a career because he plays hits". Technically playing hits is appealing for the casual listener and helps filling venues, so in terms of career anyone in the music industry will tell you it's a good move even if it's frustrating for us fans (but we'll attend the shows anyway because we're fans, so why should he care what we want?). If you think his current music sucks that's your prerogative to say so, but we're not talking artistic accomplishments here, we're talking career. Kenny G has released shit all his life but no one can argue that he's had a wonderfully successful career, can we? So don't mix everything and stay on topic ^^ So what's your point? A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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By now he would've ended up as a touring legacy act either way - he seems to be doing that pretty well, a Prince gig is an event.
Hits and commercial profile mean little to me at least, but I think my only disappointment was that his studio work took such a nose dive. Prince doesn't often drop that character facade in his work and I think it's partly holding him back from exploring and producing something worth of putting out on record, not just another 12 song grab bag. | |
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Even if Prince's live gigs are "oldies" or "greatest hits" shows these days he does it still quite well. The setlists are varied stylistically and the guy still has a lot of stage presence. I've only seen one performer do the same thing better than him - and that was David Bowie when he was about the same age.
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Making albums with stuff he mostly doesn't play live.
(AKA playing hits, more hits and then some hits) Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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agree to disagree, sir. let's see if i can put this nicely this time without using any profanity or making nasty remarks about your character or personal motivation: over the years i have disagreed strongly with your many, repeating and repetitive deleterious posts regarding prince's output.
your spiteful, negative comments (see, above: "desperately clinging to whatever current act he deems worthy of his attention. We already know one utterly ridiculous thing he's planning to do to promote his new album") in this forum are protected by forum rules and law. [Edited 1/4/14 8:02am] | |
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I'd love an acoustic, intimate soul baring album from a 50+ year old man thats experienced alot of pain and confusion in his life....a focused tight project...something honest and raw lyrically. something unexpected like that could be a winner. | |
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Fully acknowledging that Prince is still selling a lot of tickets and thus has a viable (at the very least profitable) career, I think he has made a lot of bad career moves. - Disbandoning the Purple Rain sound and The Revolution too early. - Lovesexy album plus cover. I have no problem with it, but the general public did. - Graffiti Bridge movie. An embarrassment. The album was far from perfect either. - The name change, this was the worst career move. Nobody understood why, nor cared, and he was ridiculed for it ever since. - Wearing 'slave' on his face. - The plastic production on Emancipation (Kirk Johnson). He should have never been hired, and the album might have sounded much better perhaps. - Not hiring a good producer ever since Emancipation. Let's face it, Prince lost his last connections with the Zeitgeist around the mid nineties, and is in need of a smart pair of ears to help him make the right musical decisions. - Not bringing out decent remasters. He could have made some money on them, win some new fans and satisfy his hardcore fanbase in one go. His best career moves: -Recording 1999. -Purple Rain (movie and OST) -SOTT tour -The side projects (back when the were still good/interesting). -Diamonds & Pearls. Not a favorite of mine perse, but definately a good one for the general public. RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... | |
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This silly post is like catnip to the usual suspects....Some of y'all need to drop Prince all together and listen to some other/new artists.... | |
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This was definitely one of his biggest career mistakes,imo.I don't think he truly realized the momemtum and impact that this album was having,in the summer/fall of '87.If he had toured the US in the fall of that year,it would have been that year's biggest,most successful tour.The concert film was nice,but nothing takes the place of a real tour. | |
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None of U know what Prince was going through personally to scrap a US tour of SOTT. He does have a personal life U know!! will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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I never get one of these lol... I want my posts to get deleted by a moderator, dammit!
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He simply wanted to move on.By the fall of 1987,Prince was already planning The Black Album.It's a shame because,with a tour and a few more singles,the SOTT album could have lasted well into the first half of 1988. | |
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The same could be said about the "Purple Rain" soundtrack! Prince just gets bored easily. Fortunately 4 us, his boredom turns into another album. Eye don't see anything wrong with that!!
SOTT already had THREE top 10 pop singles! Also a classic album cut that still gets played today. The most he had at that time since "Purple Rain"! Things are suppose too happen like they're suppose 2 happen. Here we are in 2014 and Prince hasn't had a new album out in going on FOUR years! Peeps here are still complaining!!!!!! will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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