God (Insturmental Version). Is that technically a B-Side?

midnightmover said:

Xibalba said:

Absolutely disgusting. This is what stopped Prince from being more popular.

On the contrary, that daring moment on MTV just helped make Prince more popular in 1991. The Gett Off home video and Diamonds of Pearls album became big sellers for Prince.

midnightmover said:

What's the big deal with la la la, hee hee hee? It's funky, but I always saw it as pretty disposable.

P.S. Just listened to some b-sides the other day and I think SAIMH might have the edge over 17 Days which is maybe a bit too poppy in comparison. It's close though.

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La, La, La, He, He, Hee♥ is a unique song with a drumbeat sounding like a dog barking. The humorious storytelling lyrics were written by Sheena Easton, Prince thought it was cute and turned it into a song. I always associate Scarlet Pussy with La, La, La, He, He, Hee♥ in my head, too.

17 Days is an somber almost hypnotic electro funk song perfectly matched with lyrics of despair and resentment.

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

"Be Cool, Rover ! Don't you bite no one!"

midnightmover said:

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

As if 3 seconds of assless pants derailed his career. He did that himself after renegotiating (what was then) signing the biggest recording contract in history. He walked away from that. He was the architecht of his own fall from public grace, not a random piece of cloth. Get real, pull your head out of your famdom for a moment and clear your head.

midnightmover said:

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

Hogwash. I'm not some kid that doesn't know what he's talking about. I was 24 in 1991. Gett Off was the first single from Diamonds and Pearls. His ass totally registered and surpised everyone. I found it funny and was glad to see Prince getting edgy again after the rather dull and bland Graffiti Bridge film and album. Despite your own personal feeling of disgust, the boundry pushing MTV Video Music Awards performance on September 9th 1991 successfully promoted Gett Off and the Gett Off home video became a huge commercial success when it was released on September 10th 1991 and stayed 10 weeks at number one on Billboard's video sales chart. The second single Cream was released on September 9th 1991, the same day as the MTV performance and became a number one hit single. The Diamonds and Pearls album was released on October 1 1991 and was a number one hit selling in excess of 2 million copies. The Gett Off MTV performance, the Gett Off home video and the Cream single made the album become such a big hit on it's release.

And you called 17 Days "too poppy." I disagreed and decided to point out what's great about 17 Days.

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"La La La He He Hee" is one of the funkiest B-sides that's some pure James Brown funk that Prince was doing.The lyrics are fun and playful,and that bassline kicks ass!! What's not to like?

get off my tree...grinning at me...licking your tail....like it's creeeeaammm

strokin' your whiskas...causing a scene...that's not the way,the way to me...

SoulAlive said:

17 Days...the groove is so hypnotic! The best Prince B-side of all.

I said "Shockadelica" and I love it so much, but lately i've been going back more and more to "Love or Money." I'm really shocked it was left off the b-sides compilation... such a great track. I really think it should have been on "Parade." I love the extended mix.

pureTsexy said:

I know ill catch crap for this but.... 200 balloons

200 balloons is great! Love it. It should have been on "Batman," it's better than "Lemon Crush" for sure.

Xibalba said:

midnightmover said:

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

As if 3 seconds of assless pants derailed his career. He did that himself after renegotiating (what was then) signing the biggest recording contract in history. He walked away from that. He was the architecht of his own fall from public grace, not a random piece of cloth. Get real, pull your head out of your famdom for a moment and clear your head.

WTF? I just said it was politely overlooked by most people at the time. Of course it didn't derail his career. But that kind of behaviour alienated a lot of people throughout his career. Like I said, it's the reason why he wasn't more popular. You think he was big but most people would agree with me that he could've been much bigger if he'd cut out that kind of thing. I was in school at the time. I well remember the negative feelings most had to him, based on exactly that type of thing. They thought he was a "poof" (British slang for gay). You might not like that, but that's how it was. Sorry.

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rudeboynpg said:

midnightmover said:

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

Hogwash. I'm not some kid that doesn't know what he's talking about. I was 24 in 1991. Gett Off was the first single from Diamonds and Pearls. His ass totally registered and surpised everyone. I found it funny and was glad to see Prince getting edgy again after the rather dull and bland Graffiti Bridge film and album. Despite your own personal feeling of disgust, the boundry pushing MTV Video Music Awards performance on September 9th 1991 successfully promoted Gett Off and the Gett Off home video became a huge commercial success when it was released on September 10th 1991 and stayed 10 weeks at number one on Billboard's video sales chart. The second single Cream was released on September 9th 1991, the same day as the MTV performance and became a number one hit single. The Diamonds and Pearls album was released on October 1 1991 and was a number one hit selling in excess of 2 million copies. The Gett Off MTV performance, the Gett Off home video and the Cream single made the album become such a big hit on it's release.

And you called 17 Days "too poppy." I disagreed and decided to point out what's great about 17 Days.

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You were 24 at the time and I was 15 at the time which means I'm far better placed to assess how it was perceived than you are. There's no better place than a school yard to see how pop stars are perceived by the people that matter (kids). "Gett Off' was popular as soon as everyone heard it. People loved it. That had nothing to do with the MTV Awards. People who saw the MTV Awards were overwhelmingly disappointed with it. Most politely avoided discussion of his ass, but the one guy who did mention it was obviously put off by it, but loved the song anyway. That's the point. The SONGS connected with people. Let me repeat that. It was the SONGS. I myself bought the album, single and home video. It doesn't mean I liked that performance. I liked the songs and I liked Prince. I simply overlooked those momentary flashes of his ass. As a Prince fan you get used to that, but not everyone can tolerate that type of thing. Sorry, but that's just a fact.

And I said 17 Days was "too poppy" only in comparison to SAIMH. It doesn't mean I don't still love it. The chorus is very poppy though, let's face it.

midnightmover said:

rudeboynpg said:

Hogwash. I'm not some kid that doesn't know what he's talking about. I was 24 in 1991. Gett Off was the first single from Diamonds and Pearls. His ass totally registered and surpised everyone. I found it funny and was glad to see Prince getting edgy again after the rather dull and bland Graffiti Bridge film and album. Despite your own personal feeling of disgust, the boundry pushing MTV Video Music Awards performance on September 9th 1991 successfully promoted Gett Off and the Gett Off home video became a huge commercial success when it was released on September 10th 1991 and stayed 10 weeks at number one on Billboard's video sales chart. The second single Cream was released on September 9th 1991, the same day as the MTV performance and became a number one hit single. The Diamonds and Pearls album was released on October 1 1991 and was a number one hit selling in excess of 2 million copies. The Gett Off MTV performance, the Gett Off home video and the Cream single made the album become such a big hit on it's release.

And you called 17 Days "too poppy." I disagreed and decided to point out what's great about 17 Days.

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You were 24 at the time and I was 15 at the time which means I'm far better placed to assess how it was perceived than you are. There's no better place than a school yard to see how pop stars are perceived by the people that matter (kids). "Gett Off' was popular as soon as everyone heard it. People loved it. That had nothing to do with the MTV Awards. People who saw the MTV Awards were overwhelmingly disappointed with it. Most politely avoided discussion of his ass, but the one guy who did mention it was obviously put off by it, but loved the song anyway. That's the point. The SONGS connected with people. Let me repeat that. It was the SONGS. I myself bought the album, single and home video. It doesn't mean I liked that performance. I liked the songs and I liked Prince. I simply overlooked those momentary flashes of his ass. As a Prince fan you get used to that, but not everyone can tolerate that type of thing. Sorry, but that's just a fact.

And I said 17 Days was "too poppy" only in comparison to SAIMH. It doesn't mean I don't still love it. The chorus is very poppy though, let's face it.

A lot of people have a tendency to disrespect music they label pop and lump it with the kiddie wholesome teeny-bobber bubblegum of Frankie Avalon, Annette Funicello, the Monkees, the Archies, the Brady Bunch, the Partridge Family, the Osmonds, the Jackson 5, New Edition, New Kids on the Block, Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Justin Bieber, the Disney channel singers, etc. Pop is also many types of music that becomes a hit. Pop hits have been swing jazz, many types of rock, doo-wop, folk, soul, blues, country western, disco, ska, electro, hip hop, etc. Pop is whatever becomes popular hits to mainstream audiences. Frank Sinatra's hits, Beatles' hits, Jimi Hendrix's hits, etc. were called pop hits. Jimi Hendrix inappropriately (and hilariously) toured with the Monkees very briefly.

The MTV performance of Gett Off successfully promoted Gett Off to the audience Prince was aiming for, which wasn't children, or parents approval. Sure, some adults-christians/parents likely were offended and children would think that it was gross. But this wasn't the Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards. Not only children and parents watched the MTV Video Music Awards in 1991. Children were not the people that mattered to Prince. Unlike the Disney Peter Pan-emulating Michael Jackson, children were not the audience that Prince was gearing himself and his music like Gett Off, Erotic City, Head, Darling Nikki, Let's Pretend We're Married, Sexy MF, etc. etc. etc. towards. Prince was obviously directing his performances and his music to mature adult teens and people in their 20s (and 30s, like Prince's age was), primarily. I became a Prince fan when I was 17 in 1984 when I saw Purple Rain. An R rated movie.

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rudeboynpg said:

midnightmover said:

Please. D&P became a smash because the singles connected with the public. That MTV performance was widely seen as a disappointment at the time by those who saw it. Fortunately the flashes of his ass were so brief that they didn't totally register with people. Those who noticed (like me and a few friends) mostly kept quiet.

And I don't need to be lectured about 17 Days, dude. It's one of my favourite b-sides.

Hogwash. I'm not some kid that doesn't know what he's talking about. I was 24 in 1991. Gett Off was the first single from Diamonds and Pearls. His ass totally registered and surpised everyone. I found it funny and was glad to see Prince getting edgy again after the rather dull and bland Graffiti Bridge film and album. Despite your own personal feeling of disgust, the boundry pushing MTV Video Music Awards performance on September 9th 1991 successfully promoted Gett Off and the Gett Off home video became a huge commercial success when it was released on September 10th 1991 and stayed 10 weeks at number one on Billboard's video sales chart. The second single Cream was released on September 9th 1991, the same day as the MTV performance and became a number one hit single. The Diamonds and Pearls album was released on October 1 1991 and was a number one hit selling in excess of 2 million copies. The Gett Off MTV performance, the Gett Off home video and the Cream single made the album become such a big hit on it's release.

And you called 17 Days "too poppy." I disagreed and decided to point out what's great about 17 Days.

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Everybody noticed his ass! Even The Muppets referenced it when he was on their show...

DaddySmooth said:

La La La Hee Hee Hee 12"

yep

djThunderfunk said:

Everybody noticed his ass! Even The Muppets referenced it when he was on their show...

Yeah, and Prince laughed about it on Muppets Tonight which also showed that Prince had a sense of humor about it and wasn't taking himself too seriously. And I remember Prince having his butt out on MTV was so well known that there was also Jamie Foxx's Prince Butt Out Jeans skit on In Living Color in 1991.

she's always in my hair (1985)

&

Gotta stop messin around (1980)

midnightmover said:

...but the one guy who did mention it was obviously put off by it, but loved the song anyway. That's the point. The SONGS connected with people. Let me repeat that. It was the SONGS.

That was our point. Pay attention at the back there.

Oh, and I don't need educating on what a "poof" is thanks, I am one.

rudeboynpg said:

midnightmover said:

You were 24 at the time and I was 15 at the time which means I'm far better placed to assess how it was perceived than you are. There's no better place than a school yard to see how pop stars are perceived by the people that matter (kids). "Gett Off' was popular as soon as everyone heard it. People loved it. That had nothing to do with the MTV Awards. People who saw the MTV Awards were overwhelmingly disappointed with it. Most politely avoided discussion of his ass, but the one guy who did mention it was obviously put off by it, but loved the song anyway. That's the point. The SONGS connected with people. Let me repeat that. It was the SONGS. I myself bought the album, single and home video. It doesn't mean I liked that performance. I liked the songs and I liked Prince. I simply overlooked those momentary flashes of his ass. As a Prince fan you get used to that, but not everyone can tolerate that type of thing. Sorry, but that's just a fact.

And I said 17 Days was "too poppy" only in comparison to SAIMH. It doesn't mean I don't still love it. The chorus is very poppy though, let's face it.

A lot of people have a tendency to disrespect music they label pop and lump it with the kiddie wholesome teeny-bobber bubblegum of Frankie Avalon, Annette Funicello, the Monkees, the Archies, the Brady Bunch, the Partridge Family, the Osmonds, the Jackson 5, New Edition, New Kids on the Block, Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Justin Bieber, the Disney channel singers, etc. Pop is also many types of music that becomes a hit. Pop hits have been swing jazz, many types of rock, doo-wop, folk, soul, blues, country western, disco, ska, electro, hip hop, etc. Pop is whatever becomes popular hits to mainstream audiences. Frank Sinatra's hits, Beatles' hits, Jimi Hendrix's hits, etc. were called pop hits. Jimi Hendrix inappropriately (and hilariously) toured with the Monkees very briefly.

The MTV performance of Gett Off successfully promoted Gett Off to the audience Prince was aiming for, which wasn't children, or parents approval. Sure, some adults-christians/parents likely were offended and children would think that it was gross. But this wasn't the Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards. Not only children and parents watched the MTV Video Music Awards in 1991. Children were not the people that mattered to Prince. Unlike the Disney Peter Pan-emulating Michael Jackson, children were not the audience that Prince was gearing himself and his music like Gett Off, Erotic City, Head, Darling Nikki, Let's Pretend We're Married, Sexy MF, etc. etc. etc. towards. Prince was obviously directing his performances and his music to mature adult teens and people in their 20s (and 30s, like Prince's age was), primarily. I became a Prince fan when I was 17 in 1984 when I saw Purple Rain. An R rated movie

Why are you talking about children? Obviously when I said kids I meant teens like me and my friends. It's teens that buy most of the records, dummy (back then anyway). He successfully reached them with D&P because of the songs. The album succeeded IN SPITE OF the MTV performance, not because of it. Like I said, no-one was impressed by that performance. But everyone liked the first 3 singles from the album. That's why the album succeeded. This is a simple point that you're obviously trying hard not to understand.

And it's not just Christian parents who would've objected to Prince flashing his bare ass. The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. The MTV performance was just simply not a big deal. This was pre-internet so it just came and went. It was the songs and videos that lingered. But that type of behaviour most certainly dented Prince's image in a lot of people's minds. No serious person can deny this.

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Xibalba said:

midnightmover said:

That was our point. Pay attention at the back there.

Oh, and I don't need educating on what a "poof" is thanks, I am one.

No it wasn't your point. You were denying that those types of antics hurt his popularity. They absolutely did. Like I said, Prince was big, but not as big as he could've been, largely because of those off-putting outfits and strange stunts. The fact that one friend of mine was able to acknowledge how good that song was while condemning his outfit does not change that.

And I already know you're a "poof", which is why you don't find that image as off-putting as most other people would.

P.S. You obviously haven't been reading rudeboynpg's posts very closely either. He's NOT saying it was the songs that made D&P popular. I'm the one saying that. He's busy trying to prove that the MTV performance made it a smash hit, lol. So someone certainly needs to "pay attention" around here, but it's not me.

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midnightmover said:

Xibalba said:

That was our point. Pay attention at the back there.

Oh, and I don't need educating on what a "poof" is thanks, I am one.

No it wasn't your point. You were denying that those types of antics hurt his popularity. They absolutely did. Like I said, Prince was big, but not as big as he could've been, largely because of those off-putting outfits and strange stunts. The fact that one friend of mine was able to acknowledge how good that song was while condemning his outfit does not change that.

And I already know you're a "poof", which is why you don't find that image as off-putting as most other people would.

P.S. You obviously haven't been reading rudeboynpg's posts very closely either. He's NOT saying it was the songs that made D&P popular. I'm the one saying that. He's busy trying to prove that the MTV performance made it a smash hit, lol. So someone certainly needs to "pay attention" around here, but it's not me.

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As the unofficial Prince fan amongst my friends everyone kept asking me "what was up with Prince and the assless pants?". My answer "to get people talking, you are, it worked".

Everybody noticed. Some were turned off. Some laughed. Everybody was talking about it. He sold a lot of records. Nuff said.

djThunderfunk said:

midnightmover said:

No it wasn't your point. You were denying that those types of antics hurt his popularity. They absolutely did. Like I said, Prince was big, but not as big as he could've been, largely because of those off-putting outfits and strange stunts. The fact that one friend of mine was able to acknowledge how good that song was while condemning his outfit does not change that.

And I already know you're a "poof", which is why you don't find that image as off-putting as most other people would.

P.S. You obviously haven't been reading rudeboynpg's posts very closely either. He's NOT saying it was the songs that made D&P popular. I'm the one saying that. He's busy trying to prove that the MTV performance made it a smash hit, lol. So someone certainly needs to "pay attention" around here, but it's not me.

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As the unofficial Prince fan amongst my friends everyone kept asking me "what was up with Prince and the assless pants?". My answer "to get people talking, you are, it worked".

Everybody noticed. Some were turned off. Some laughed. Everybody was talking about it. He sold a lot of records. Nuff said.

Stupid post. The only part I can take seriously is where you say some people were turned off. That I can believe, except it would've been a lot more than some. Otherwise you're engaging in the same dishonest strategy as rudeboynpg, which is to imply that the album's success was somehow connected to the assless pants. This is stupid beyond words. Repeat after me, it. was. the. songs, not a three second glimpse of Prince's ass. You are obviously too much of a fan to look objectively at it, but that performance didn't impress people then and it still doesn't impress people now. It wasn't that good. And no, everyone was not talking about the assless pants. He did it, people were embarrassed. They moved on. If you were known as a Prince fan then people may have mentioned it to you, but in general, it was politely glossed over.

Sometimes the org feels like a parallel universe. Nowhere else would those ass-less pants be so popular. Well, maybe in a gay bar. And maybe that explains what's going on here, lol.

midnightmover said:

rudeboynpg said:

A lot of people have a tendency to disrespect music they label pop and lump it with the kiddie wholesome teeny-bobber bubblegum of Frankie Avalon, Annette Funicello, the Monkees, the Archies, the Brady Bunch, the Partridge Family, the Osmonds, the Jackson 5, New Edition, New Kids on the Block, Hanson, Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, Justin Bieber, the Disney channel singers, etc. Pop is also many types of music that becomes a hit. Pop hits have been swing jazz, many types of rock, doo-wop, folk, soul, blues, country western, disco, ska, electro, hip hop, etc. Pop is whatever becomes popular hits to mainstream audiences. Frank Sinatra's hits, Beatles' hits, Jimi Hendrix's hits, etc. were called pop hits. Jimi Hendrix inappropriately (and hilariously) toured with the Monkees very briefly.

The MTV performance of Gett Off successfully promoted Gett Off to the audience Prince was aiming for, which wasn't children, or parents approval. Sure, some adults-christians/parents likely were offended and children would think that it was gross. But this wasn't the Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards. Not only children and parents watched the MTV Video Music Awards in 1991. Children were not the people that mattered to Prince. Unlike the Disney Peter Pan-emulating Michael Jackson, children were not the audience that Prince was gearing himself and his music like Gett Off, Erotic City, Head, Darling Nikki, Let's Pretend We're Married, Sexy MF, etc. etc. etc. towards. Prince was obviously directing his performances and his music to mature adult teens and people in their 20s (and 30s, like Prince's age was), primarily. I became a Prince fan when I was 17 in 1984 when I saw Purple Rain. An R rated movie

Why are you talking about children? Obviously when I said kids I meant teens like me and my friends. It's teens that buy most of the records, dummy (back then anyway). He successfully reached them with D&P because of the songs. The album succeeded IN SPITE OF the MTV performance, not because of it. Like I said, no-one was impressed by that performance. But everyone liked the first 3 singles from the album. That's why the album succeeded. This is a simple point that you're obviously trying hard not to understand.

And it's not just Christian parents who would've objected to Prince flashing his bare ass. The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. The MTV performance was just simply not a big deal. This was pre-internet so it just came and went. It was the songs and videos that lingered. But that type of behaviour most certainly dented Prince's image in a lot of people's minds. No serious person can deny this.

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15 year olds and under are children, and are you still a child? Because your coming off that way by calling me "dummy (back then anyway)" and your ridiculous claim that "no-one was impressed by that performance" and you claiming that "The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. "

Yourself and the children you knew on your schoolyard in 1991 does not equate everybody on the planet or the MAJORITY of people in all age groups. The MAJORITY of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. That is the reality, whether you want to admit it or not.

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rudeboynpg said:

midnightmover said:

Why are you talking about children? Obviously when I said kids I meant teens like me and my friends. It's teens that buy most of the records, dummy (back then anyway). He successfully reached them with D&P because of the songs. The album succeeded IN SPITE OF the MTV performance, not because of it. Like I said, no-one was impressed by that performance. But everyone liked the first 3 singles from the album. That's why the album succeeded. This is a simple point that you're obviously trying hard not to understand.

And it's not just Christian parents who would've objected to Prince flashing his bare ass. The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. The MTV performance was just simply not a big deal. This was pre-internet so it just came and went. It was the songs and videos that lingered. But that type of behaviour most certainly dented Prince's image in a lot of people's minds. No serious person can deny this.

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15 year olds and under are children, and are you still a child? Because your coming off that way by calling me "dummy (back then anyway)" and your ridiculous claim that "no-one was impressed by that performance" and you claiming that "The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. "

Yourself and the children you knew on your schoolyard in 1991 does not equate everybody on the planet or the MAJORITY of people in all age groups. The MAJORITY of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. That is the reality, whether you want to admit it or not.

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15 year olds do not watch the Nickelodeon Kids Awards. They are adolescents, not children. It is exactly my age group that helped make that album the smash it was. Wake up. You CHOSE to misunderstand just like you've been doing throughout this conversation.

And the dishonesty continues with your seemingly straightforward statement that the majority of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. That statement is dishonest because enjoying sexual entertainment does not mean you enjoy the sight of a man's ass sticking out of his pants. You're implying it does. These are devious little games you're playing. If the majority of people liked seeing bare male asses then others would've followed Prince's lead, but they haven't because it makes most peoples' stomach turn. If you don't realize that then you seriously need to turn off the computer and go and talk to some real human beings.

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midnightmover said:

rudeboynpg said:

15 year olds and under are children, and are you still a child? Because your coming off that way by calling me "dummy (back then anyway)" and your ridiculous claim that "no-one was impressed by that performance" and you claiming that "The MAJORITY of people in all age groups simply do not like that type of thing. I'm sorry to tell you about these realities, but someone had to inform you sooner or later. "

Yourself and the children you knew on your schoolyard in 1991 does not equate everybody on the planet or the MAJORITY of people in all age groups. The MAJORITY of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. That is the reality, whether you want to admit it or not.

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Dude, I made it perfectly clear in that post that I was talking about my peer group. You CHOSE to misunderstand just like you've been doing throughout this conversation.

And the dishonesty continues with your seemingly straightforward statement that the majority of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. That statement is dishonest because enjoying sexual entertainment does not mean you enjoy the sight of a man's ass sticking out of his pants. You're implying it does. These are devious little games you're playing. If the majority of people liked seeing bare male asses then others would've followed Prince's lead, but they haven't because it makes most peoples' stomach turn. If you don't realize that then you seriously need to turn off the computer and go and talk to some real human beings.

You made it perfectly clear that your peer group were kids on a schoolyard. My nieces and nephew still watched the Nickoldeon Kids Choice Awards at 15. 15 year olds are kids. It was a wider age range (with people older than 15 year olds) that made Diamonds and Pearls a hit album.

I said the majority of adults enjoy sexual entertainment. And you are (delibrately?) misunderstanding. Please don't put words into my mouth when you attempt to criticize and insult me. You seem to be struggling -- and without great success -- to bend my words to fit some kind of agenda of your own. I suggest you make it easier on yourself, and just take what I say as what I say. I didn't say the majority of adults enjoyed and were sexually aroused at seeing Prince's bare butt, nor was I attempting to imply that. I was refering to the MTV Video Music Awards stage performance of the song Gett Off, and which consisted of more than just Prince's bare butt. There were also scantily clad women in thongs on display in the MTV performance as well, and men, and concrete pillars, and flames. It was a Caligula inspired spectacle. The sight of a man's ass does not make most peoples stomach turn. Hetrosexual women and homosexual men are sexually aroused by the sight of a man's ass that they are attracted to. I'm hetrosexual and the sight of Prince's bare butt wasn't arousing to me but wasn't stomach turning to me, either. I'm not squeamish and offended by the sight of the human body. In fact, I'd taken figure drawing class in community collage drawing nude males and females.

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pureTsexy said: