SpiritOtter is not a they, he's a he. A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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* I'll take the blame. I did it. | |
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Byron said:
Just a ton of nonchalant side-boob. | |
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Spirit's posts were generally really interesting, so let's hope he hasn't said his (or their) last word yet. | |
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I can go along with most of this. I would have to question the basic assumption that Prince is an unhappy soul, he seems to be quite content (even if a bit arrogant and controlling at times). We can't presume to know what his interior state is by reading into songs and stories. Maybe he seems a malcontent by your standards, but a little discontent is good for art. If he were totally at peace he would be churning out new age music, ala Yanni or John Tesh lol "So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..." | |
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I don't think that Spiritotter's missing profile is a new phenomenon. I think I tried to orgnote him a few months ago and wasn't able to--no profile, no nothing. There've been a lot of posts from the otter since then, so I don't think it's a deleted account. I don't know what is going on, but I don't think it's new. | |
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That's really not imporant. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Nonchalant side boob. | |
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Everybody experiences pain in life.
I do think some people have to overcome abuse, abandonment and hars circumstances as a child. When you'r not safe in your own house as a kid, that establishes your worldview. 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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EddieC said: I don't think that Spiritotter's missing profile is a new phenomenon. I think I tried to orgnote him a few months ago and wasn't able to--no profile, no nothing. There've been a lot of posts from the otter since then, so I don't think it's a deleted account. I don't know what is going on, but I don't think it's new. interesting | |
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the root issue of prince's journey in life is...faith in music
it's his first love, his wife, his kids, his jobs, the way he perceives the world and the only thing to which he's ever been truly loyal
once you see that, everything he's ever done makes sense. The contradictions and conflicts you once saw in his life no longer exist.
I think he even thanked 'faith in music' in his D&P album credits Moo said the cow | |
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maxwell said: the root issue of prince's journey in life is...faith in music
it's his first love, his wife, his kids, his jobs, the way he perceives the world and the only thing to which he's ever been truly loyal
once you see that, everything he's ever done makes sense. The contradictions and conflicts you once saw in his life no longer exist.
I think he even thanked 'faith in music' in his D&P album credits nice | |
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While I do not know your intent for writing this thread, I do hope you are open to reply to comments posted by respondents... I find your use of the word projected interesting because you are talking about a highly visible performance artist. Although I would not have written this thread, If I had written it I would have used the word inflect in the place of the word project... I am curious to know what you think about the train symbolism in Prince's music. Many of the recorded and live songs produced by Prince include the rhythmic allure of "locomotion". Is its use a marketing gimmick, a historical reference, a social observation turned social commentary, an easy starter rhythm to build a song with or simply an expression of Prince's love for trains?
-This is a dysfunctional society we work and live in.
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udo said:
That's really not imporant. U ask a 12 y/o w/ limited internet access if side-boob is unimportant....lemme know what he/she says. | |
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I was not asking. I used no question mark. I see no 12 year olds and limited internet access is so 1997. I have myself as primary context and what I see in the alternative news as a secondary context.
And no, side-boobs are no important. Especially not in this context. I can explain even more if you insist but I guess you do not need the explanation to understand. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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noclaim said:
While I do not know your intent for writing this thread, I do hope you are open to reply to comments posted by respondents... I find your use of the word projected interesting because you are talking about a highly visible performance artist. Although I would not have written this thread, If I had written it I would have used the word inflect in the place of the word project... I am curious to know what you think about the train symbolism in Prince's music. Many of the recorded and live songs produced by Prince include the rhythmic allure of "locomotion". Is its use a marketing gimmick, a historical reference, a social observation turned social commentary, an easy starter rhythm to build a song with or simply an expression of Prince's love for trains?
-This is a dysfunctional society we work and live in.
My take on the train.....something similar to what Janis said...as we all discover on the train, 2morrow never happens, it all the same day. This is wild and mind blowing because somehow, time does not exist. It only exists here in the 3rd dimension because of duality and a way to keep things moving. All of our past existences still exist when we call on them. Past existences are in our auras. Some of them are very good friends and mentors. Oh, yeah, train and rain are only one letter apart. Purple train, nah, purple rain is so much more elegant and princely. Just keep loving God. ~honey is b-ing 1 with the 1~ | |
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SpiritOtter said: A thread to ponder, as I have come to. * Prince's "life story" is one centred and revolving around pain; the pain of being abandoned not only by his father at a formative stage, but by his very own mother, too; the pain of not fitting into mainstream society as a growing boy ("small". "sensitive", "shy", "creative") or for adult "men" to present as being ("effeminate"); the pain of not being able to feel loved and to trust his own love in return (without recourse to painstaking control) due to the understandably rooted, deeply held and largely unconscious fear of his earliest, most signficant, abandonment(s) repeating themselves ("It's Gonna Be Lonely", "Lady Cab Driver", "The Beautiful Ones", "Computer Blue", the list is endless, right up until his present psychic projections - if you listen closely, there is no resolve); and finally, perhaps the ultimate pain of not behaving in accordance with a loving/rejecting God, which appears to trigger Prince's core issue with abandonment (see the ending of "The Ladder" or the deep conflict in "Anna Stesia"). Will God reject him, too? Or will he be saved? * Whilst, of course, none of us can change the course of history, we can nonetheless change our "perceptions" (our thoughts, feelings, and therefore, our behaviours) through our own psychological development. So, as far as anyone can wish peace to another human spirit from afar, I think most of us would wish it were so for him. I am aware that Prince's parent were unable to provide a loving, safe and positive home life. I am aware that he spent much of his life as a young boy alienated and disenfranchised, not only from his own family base, but also from society growing up. And I am aware that he spent his early youth roaming the streets, escaping in the safety valve of his own "music" and "performance", trying to survive his seemingly insurmountable predicament. I wish it were not the case that he learned that a protective wall was needed to prevent him from all that core pain. But I can see that is probably not the case and I can understand why. Trust - "Who can you trust, if you can't trust God?" he once mused. * Whilst many of Prince's songs can be understandably thought to centre around women, they also deal with this core projected pain of abandonment, both as an anticipation/expectation of his deepest fears (after all, his mother abandoned him) and as a coping mechanism for when life/God presents the inevitable difficult trials and tribulations that it does and has (the dissolution within his original parental family, the separations within his surrogate musical families (every "band" he has ever had, but most notably The Revolution, and at a systemic level, Warner Brothers), the ending of his marriages, the distance from his fans and eventually, one might predict the divorce from his own past, his own music, and his own legacy. He already "left" the identity of Prince once, after all. As one might see, the endless, dysfunctional and repeating pattern of attachment and separation centres around the core issue of wishing to be unconditionally "loved" and the subsequent strategies of control to avoid the deeply held, projected and unconscious fear of abandonment. * One day, of course, he will learn to love himself, at his deepest, and most vulnerable, core. The music will surely follow, as will his peace. But at this stage of his career and life, I would rather it were his peace, than any more music. [Edited 12/12/13 6:00am] Don't u think that when people don't remember their parents or children from past lives that this is abandonment? If this is the case, then most of us are abandoned by God and ourselves but eventually wake up to realize that is the way that this Earth game is played. I will state that Prince has not been abandoned by two of his parents from the past. But one needs to understand (not intended to Prince here) that parents are often past or future brothers or sisters or even one's past children. We try to keep getting this life right. I do not know Prince's intention when he penned 'I wanna b ur Lover"; however, it is wonderful and words to the truth about being one's brother, sister, Lover and so on. If some of us only knew that one or both of our current parents may have been our husband or wife in the past. But, when we take a step forward and realize that at the level of Soul it is all okay and doesn't matter, then concordance happens. ~honey is b-ing 1 with the 1~ | |
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udo said:
I was not asking. I used no question mark. I see no 12 year olds and limited internet access is so 1997. I have myself as primary context and what I see in the alternative news as a secondary context.
And no, side-boobs are no important. Especially not in this context. I can explain even more if you insist but I guess you do not need the explanation to understand. No...cuz the statement was a joke to begin with. It seemed u thought I was actively participating...it was just an amusing(at least to me) side comment. U treated it like it was a serious comment. Oh...and by limited internet access...I mean a kid who's parents appropriately put filters and restrictions in use on the childs browsers/computers....not AOL dial up. Sorry u took my joke comment so serious.... ...your reactions to it were quite amusing. Also...I never said u asked a question. My statement wasnt a question either. My scentence was of the command variety. ure funny. [Edited 12/25/13 16:08pm] | |
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At least someone notices!!
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Can you give a hint or describe it so we know what website you're referring to? ...every night another symphony... | |
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