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PrintableMoonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: It has become trendy to hate this album for some reason, but I adore it. Everything but "Silly Game" is good in my book. The title track is blisteringly funky and the other ballads are very heart-felt. It gets an A.
I wouldn't say that "it has become trendy to hate this album." This album has been hated by a large number of fans since its release. The fact that I'm about the only one to consistently defend this album says that it HAS become trendy to hate it. At the time of release, a LOT of people liked it. I remember reading people's initial responses on the old org. But Prince fans are fickle as always. The old org and the new org are very different creatures indeed. The old org forums were full of sicophants and those who had some grasp on reality frequented AMP. Criticism of Prince wasn't quite as consistent or constant on the old org, with the format of the old threads. The new org has become the new AMP. If you're only judging by what people on the org were saying, I can see why you think a lot of people liked it. | |
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AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: AaronFantastic said: Moonbeam said: It has become trendy to hate this album for some reason, but I adore it. Everything but "Silly Game" is good in my book. The title track is blisteringly funky and the other ballads are very heart-felt. It gets an A.
I wouldn't say that "it has become trendy to hate this album." This album has been hated by a large number of fans since its release. The fact that I'm about the only one to consistently defend this album says that it HAS become trendy to hate it. At the time of release, a LOT of people liked it. I remember reading people's initial responses on the old org. But Prince fans are fickle as always. The old org and the new org are very different creatures indeed. The old org forums were full of sicophants and those who had some grasp on reality frequented AMP. Criticism of Prince wasn't quite as consistent or constant on the old org, with the format of the old threads. The new org has become the new AMP. If you're only judging by what people on the org were saying, I can see why you think a lot of people liked it. The friends for whom I played it at school liked it as well. | |
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nevermind [This message was edited Sun Mar 16 3:33:28 PST 2003 by AaronFantastic] | |
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I'm not even gonna try to get in the middle of this one. Can't you guys just cut it out? | |
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TRON said: I'm not even gonna try to get in the middle of this one. Can't you guys just cut it out?
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Brendan said: Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: So I guess I'm alone thinking I Love You But I Don't Trust You Anymore does not sound heartfelt. Maybe I should listen to it again...
 you dont feel that? damn  Not yet.
The vocals have always sounded cold and insincere, to me. I dont see how..he aches on this song and the melody and the words..this is better than How Come You Dont Call Me etc.  damn what do you want? blood?
Anji...Anj... damn, what do you want? blood?
. [This message was edited Sat Mar 15 21:23:15 PST 2003 by rdhull] You certainly can't be talking about Bonnie Raitt's version then. 
There are certainly more overtly emotional songs than “ILYBIDTYA” ("The Beautiful Ones” comes to mind), but this one is not about screaming and crying, but rather about slow reflection upon the beauty and romance, hurt and anger that has come to pass and building to a point of strength where it can all be expelled once and for all. At 2:49 he sings, "You've tricked me” and from that point on each syllable becomes a punch to the gut delivered in heart rendering slow motion. “WILL (right) NOT (left) AN(right)-NEE(left) MORE(right). But this fighter doesn’t go down, but rather raises his hand in victory even amidst the final pounding chords where his long and lamenting final note relinquishes every last vestige of anguish until his pain has run its course and can do nothing but crumple helplessly at his feet. He then gathers himself briefly and delivers the last line with the sturdiness and conviction of a man who can now truly move forward. And even if you can’t feel that, without "ILYBIDTYA" perhaps we never get the earth-shattering masterpiece "Avalanche", a song that can hold this type of stunning emotion for the entire length of the song. [This message was edited Sat Mar 15 23:51:38 PST 2003 by Brendan] Avalanche is a 'snowball' of emotion, I completely agree. The version on ONA Live is one of the few where that emotion and delivery still sounds as authentic as the original.  [This message was edited Sun Mar 16 7:30:30 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
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