BobGeorge909 said:

It must suck then that women don't populate the entire fan base...and even if they did, this would still probably be a problem. Dude is old. Women bitch about the objectification of women but want prince to strut around and be their sexual fantasy on demand. How many videos does prince have. I have no flipping clue. When 2 r in love sign o the times are the only of the ump-teen videos prince has that he doesn't appear in and he gets derailed for it. A video promotes the song....this song is not promoted by some 55 y/o strutting unround in an afro, heels, eyeliner, and pajamas. When I'm thinking of morning sex...I AM NOT thinking of a 55 y/o man, passing on his morning fiber to bump his grey haired ugly against summin. Tbh, the song works cuz I aint gotta see prince in the images conjured in my mind. Many of the people I associate with would agree with me on this, in regards to sex and prince at his current age and image and how it relates the the overt sexuality portrayed in the song. Call my name, not nearly so overt...very mature with sensual interjections, coupled with being a performance vid. Kudos if u are...theres a demo for everything. I tend to appreciate things in my age group as well.

..well that about sums it up.....

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest said:

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Yea, like 9 million other videos with the same. You've seen one, you've seen them all.

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What about women? Are we supposed to enjoy 9 million videos of ass? Prince has A LOT of women fans. I think I can speak for the majority of women here when I say we'd rather see the ARTIST HIMSELF (a live performance or something) than an 18 year old's ass. I would venture to guess that most of his MALE FANS would rather see that as well. And please Prince, don't give me 5 minutes of an 18 year old guy's ass either cuz I'm not interested. I'm more mature than that and appreciate the finer things in life. I'm not interested in a kid's ass or kids dressed up in Minnie Mouse costumes and bondage gear. Just sayin'.

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[Edited 10/27/13 7:00am]

It must suck then that women don't populate the entire fan base...and even if they did, this would still probably be a problem. Dude is old. Women bitch about the objectification of women but want prince to strut around and be their sexual fantasy on demand. How many videos does prince have. I have no flipping clue. When 2 r in love sign o the times are the only of the ump-teen videos prince has that he doesn't appear in and he gets derailed for it. A video promotes the song....this song is not promoted by some 55 y/o strutting unround in an afro, heels, eyeliner, and pajamas. When I'm thinking of morning sex...I AM NOT thinking of a 55 y/o man, passing on his morning fiber to bump his grey haired ugly against summin. Tbh, the song works cuz I aint gotta see prince in the images conjured in my mind. Many of the people I associate with would agree with me on this, in regards to sex and prince at his current age and image and how it relates the the overt sexuality portrayed in the song. Call my name, not nearly so overt...very mature with sensual interjections, coupled with being a performance vid. Kudos if u are...theres a demo for everything. I tend to appreciate things in my age group as well.

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Bob, I sense some anger in your response and I don't know why.

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Btw, the dude is NOT OLD. Prince is sexier today than he was 30 years ago. That's a fact! I don't want Prince to strut around being my sexual fantasy on demand. That thought doesn't even cross my mind. I just want Prince to be Prince. He's sexy as he is just being "him". And, he's loaded with talent that should always shine through in all his work. He's fabulous!

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Bump his grey haired ugly against summin? What in the world is that supposed to mean? No one is asking for overt sex or sexuality, bump & grind kinda stuff. Sexuality doesn't have to be overt ass shakin' and all that jazz. To me, that's not even sexy as as a mature woman.

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Let's compare the video that Prince just released live from Paisley (I Like it There). That video is WAY MORE SEXY & sensual than the Breakfast video and Prince was just playing the guitar, singing and being himself. There was no bumping & grinding, ass shakin' in there. He ass was covered and he LOOKS TERRIFIC! The video just oooooozes subtle sexuality and the music & visuals are FANTASTIC! As a mature woman, it's Prince being himself, playing his music, singing and the subtle movements with his hands, face, shoulders (when he's feeling the music) are what make the video artistic and sensual without him even trying. It just comes naturally for him. He could be up there in sneakers, jeans and sweatshirt and be sexy. He just "is" when he's being himself and doing what he loves. I'm not asking him to wear those clothes, I'm merely making a statement that his sexuality does not have to be OVERT nor does he have to wear certain clothes to be sexy. Sexiness just "is" and should not have to be forced or in your face. The greatest sexuality just flows naturally from a person and has absolutely NOTHING to do with what they're wearing or wiggling their ass. Prince would be sexy in a gunny sack.

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Tempest said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest said: It must suck then that women don't populate the entire fan base...and even if they did, this would still probably be a problem. Dude is old. Women bitch about the objectification of women but want prince to strut around and be their sexual fantasy on demand. How many videos does prince have. I have no flipping clue. When 2 r in love sign o the times are the only of the ump-teen videos prince has that he doesn't appear in and he gets derailed for it. A video promotes the song....this song is not promoted by some 55 y/o strutting unround in an afro, heels, eyeliner, and pajamas. When I'm thinking of morning sex...I AM NOT thinking of a 55 y/o man, passing on his morning fiber to bump his grey haired ugly against summin. Tbh, the song works cuz I aint gotta see prince in the images conjured in my mind. Many of the people I associate with would agree with me on this, in regards to sex and prince at his current age and image and how it relates the the overt sexuality portrayed in the song. Call my name, not nearly so overt...very mature with sensual interjections, coupled with being a performance vid. Kudos if u are...theres a demo for everything. I tend to appreciate things in my age group as well.

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Bob, I sense some anger in your response and I don't know why.

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Btw, the dude is NOT OLD. Prince is sexier today than he was 30 years ago. That's a fact! I don't want Prince to strut around being my sexual fantasy on demand. That thought doesn't even cross my mind. I just want Prince to be Prince. He's sexy as he is just being "him". And, he's loaded with talent that should always shine through in all his work. He's fabulous!

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Bump his grey haired ugly against summin? What in the world is that supposed to mean? No one is asking for overt sex or sexuality, bump & grind kinda stuff. Sexuality doesn't have to be overt ass shakin' and all that jazz. To me, that's not even sexy as as a mature woman.

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Let's compare the video that Prince just released live from Paisley (I Like it There). That video is WAY MORE SEXY & sensual than the Breakfast video and Prince was just playing the guitar, singing and being himself. There was no bumping & grinding, ass shakin' in there. He ass was covered and he LOOKS TERRIFIC! The video just oooooozes subtle sexuality and the music & visuals are FANTASTIC! As a mature woman, it's Prince being himself, playing his music, singing and the subtle movements with his hands, face, shoulders (when he's feeling the music) are what make the video artistic and sensual without him even trying. It just comes naturally for him. He could be up there in sneakers, jeans and sweatshirt and be sexy. He just "is" when he's being himself and doing what he loves. I'm not asking him to wear those clothes, I'm merely making a statement that his sexuality does not have to be OVERT nor does he have to wear certain clothes to be sexy. Prince would be sexy in a gunny sack.

geesh im trying my best to walk away from this thread..

but when you said for Prince to come dress in sneakers, jeans and a sweatshirt, girl, I've been

begging him for years. I mean years..

I think Prince wanted a video with a story line this time, he was probably tired of making same

old live guitar videos, he has a right to change it up.

Well, one thing I can say, this is one video that really people are talking about

so he may have done something right..

I had to add Prince looks nice in his suits...gentleman, indeed. I'm happy

that Prince has done a great job taking care of himself, it's paying off.

[Edited 10/27/13 9:48am]

"fresh cup of coffee

I'd rather have you in my glass"

so Prince drinks coffee in a glass?

he should have just said "fresh cup of coffee, I'd rather tap that ass!!"

BobGeorge909 said:

I wasn't angry...and though I quoted you, my response to to the thread I general. I agree to some extent with you last "*", in the sense that confidence is attractive and prince is always very confident on stage. But every video can't be a stage performance vid. Prince and many orhters are multi-demensional people and like many things which implies all won't be happy all the time. Find the good in what is rather than missing what isn't. I appreciate the altruistic nature of your post...but altruism and capitalism don't usually go hand in hand . at the end of the day he's selling a product and looking for some profits which symbolize success of some sort. I'm sorry for being hyperbolic in my communication but I felt it was transparent. Its a song about morning sex....fucking. Its difficult to juxtipose images of morning sex with images of a near senior citizen(since u object to old). It turns most people off and that attitude gets shifted to the song. He hasn't had an overtly sexual vid in a while and rather than looking for the impossible reconciliation of including his current age and image with the images put forth in the lyrics for a mass consumable product...he removed himself. I'm certain he could have created a performance/product that would have pleased you. Unfortunately, that doesnt appear to have been the game plan.

Hey Bob, I think of Prince in Black Sweat. We all know what that song was about. But Prince was in the video, and he was just cool being himself! That's all I'm asking for. I don't think the video had to be anything over the top with UBER sexual innuendo. I just think it could have been a cool video with him yearning and teasing for a little "morning delight" in a flirtacious way.

And why not pajamas? We've all seen pics of him with Mayte in the past in the bed, and other stripped down images. I know Prince pushin' the Metamucil right now, but there's no shame in a fun video that's promoting wanting your baby to stay home for a few extra minutes while crooning to her.

I don't think the whole afro look fits the video, but I just would have liked to have seen him in it, and his visual impression of it.

Either way... the song is THE BOMB! Love it! His best song in perhaps a decade... IMHO.

Cheers

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[Edited 10/27/13 9:54am]

RosesRred said:

Tempest said:

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Bob, I sense some anger in your response and I don't know why.

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Btw, the dude is NOT OLD. Prince is sexier today than he was 30 years ago. That's a fact! I don't want Prince to strut around being my sexual fantasy on demand. That thought doesn't even cross my mind. I just want Prince to be Prince. He's sexy as he is just being "him". And, he's loaded with talent that should always shine through in all his work. He's fabulous!

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Bump his grey haired ugly against summin? What in the world is that supposed to mean? No one is asking for overt sex or sexuality, bump & grind kinda stuff. Sexuality doesn't have to be overt ass shakin' and all that jazz. To me, that's not even sexy as as a mature woman.

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Let's compare the video that Prince just released live from Paisley (I Like it There). That video is WAY MORE SEXY & sensual than the Breakfast video and Prince was just playing the guitar, singing and being himself. There was no bumping & grinding, ass shakin' in there. He ass was covered and he LOOKS TERRIFIC! The video just oooooozes subtle sexuality and the music & visuals are FANTASTIC! As a mature woman, it's Prince being himself, playing his music, singing and the subtle movements with his hands, face, shoulders (when he's feeling the music) are what make the video artistic and sensual without him even trying. It just comes naturally for him. He could be up there in sneakers, jeans and sweatshirt and be sexy. He just "is" when he's being himself and doing what he loves. I'm not asking him to wear those clothes, I'm merely making a statement that his sexuality does not have to be OVERT nor does he have to wear certain clothes to be sexy. Prince would be sexy in a gunny sack.

geesh im trying my best to walk away from this thread..

but when you said for Prince to come dress in sneakers, jeans and a sweatshirt, girl, I've been

begging him for years. I mean years..

I think Prince wanted a video with a story line this time, he was probably tired of making same

old live guitar videos, he has a right to change it up.

Well, one thing I can say, this is one video that really people are talking about

so he may have done something right..

I had to add Prince looks nice in his suits...gentleman, indeed. I'm happy

that Prince has done a great job taking care of himself, it's paying off.

[Edited 10/27/13 9:48am]

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Talking about it doesn't equal "good" or having "done something right". Miley Cyrus is a good example of that.

BobGeorge909 said:

I wasn't angry...and though I quoted you, my response to to the thread I general. I agree to some extent with you last "*", in the sense that confidence is attractive and prince is always very confident on stage. But every video can't be a stage performance vid. Prince and many orhters are multi-demensional people and like many things which implies all won't be happy all the time. Find the good in what is rather than missing what isn't. I appreciate the altruistic nature of your post...but altruism and capitalism don't usually go hand in hand . at the end of the day he's selling a product and looking for some profits which symbolize success of some sort. I'm sorry for being hyperbolic in my communication but I felt it was transparent. Its a song about morning sex....fucking. Its difficult to juxtipose images of morning sex with images of a near senior citizen(since u object to old). It turns most people off and that attitude gets shifted to the song. He hasn't had an overtly sexual vid in a while and rather than looking for the impossible reconciliation of including his current age and image with the images put forth in the lyrics for a mass consumable product...he removed himself. I'm certain he could have created a performance/product that would have pleased you. Unfortunately, that doesnt appear to have been the game plan.

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I'm not asking for Prince to do a live video every time. Not hardly. I was just making a general comparison between the 2 videos. The I Like it There video is WAY ABOVE & BEYOND the Breakfast video in every way. It's miles down the road beyond the Breakfast video. In fact, they're not even in the same galaxy.

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You don't need overt sex in a video to get the point across.

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I'm not asking Prince to please me either. I'm merely expressing my opinion.

I was just having a chat over lunch about sexuality, sensuality & the "it factor". It's very hard to explain the "it" factor that some people have naturally. It isn't forced, it isn't about what they're wearing, it isn't about them sticking their ass in your face or walking around half naked. It's subtle and VERY powerful.

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Just as an example, Elvis Presley had the "it" factor. The women went absolutely crazy over him and it wasn't because he had his ass in our faces, or walked around half naked, or made bump & grind videos (he never made a video). It was in his smile, his demeanor, his voice, his playfulness, his laugh, his charm, movements while performing (not humping), his manner in interviews (kind & polite) & obvious good looks. I saw him in concert 4 times and the women went absolutely bananas. This was going on up until the day he died. The last time I saw him (April 1977, 108 days before he died) Elvis was overweight, tired, not well physically, had a cold etc. However, all he had to do was stand on stage and the women went crazy (men were going crazy too). The guy hadn't even opened his mouth and the roar from the crowd was deafening. Honest to God, there was a freaking stampede for the stage that night. It was the "it" factor.

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IMO, Prince's sensuality (his "IT" factor) comes through BEST when he's being himself & doing what he loves to do (not when he's doing things he perceives everyone else wants him to do, or the music industry, etc.). He's an artist. When Prince is naturally flowing in his art / work & doing what he loves to do from his heart (not forced), that's when the "it" factor comes alive. That's what happens with Prince every time I see him flowing in that vein. It's nothing forced. It's subtle, natural, alive, sensual & invigorating to watch & listen to. That's where the magic happens. It's in his facial expressions, his voice, his hands, his instrument, his feet, his shoulders. . . in other words, it ooooozes out of his whole person. . . yes, every pore. It's wonderful!

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PS. There was no "it factor" in the Breakfast video. However, the IT FACTOR is alive & well in the I Like it There video.

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RosesRred said:

Tempest said:

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AMEN x 1,000,000. And, the question is why?

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Please don't tell me that he was "doing a good deed" so what's her name could put something on her resume. Say what? What for? It makes no sense.

Did you really have to ask that question?

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Yes, I needed to ask. I still don't know the answer.

Tempest said:

RosesRred said:

Did you really have to ask that question?

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Yes, I needed to ask. I still don't know the answer.

HE'S BONING HER. THAT'S WHY.

luv2tha99s said:

Tempest said:

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Yes, I needed to ask. I still don't know the answer.

HE'S BONING HER. THAT'S WHY.

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OK.

I just think the choreography was inappropriate for a Prince video. Prince had his own dance style, that was competitive to MJ's style in the 80's and 90's. It is beyond stupid for dancers in the video to use MJ's style but not Prince's. But then again Prince thinks it's cool to let inexperienced amateurs work on all his various sht. Rarely is there a part of his creative output, besides his own personal musicianship, that is at or above the professional level. Whoo-hoo! A return to the halcion days of Glam Slam Ulysses! Just what I've always wanted... err not.

Tempest said:

Bob,

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Different strokes for different folks. Honestly, IMO, the Breakfast video is a snooze fest. I'm not alone in that either. I had the opportunity to show both videos to 2 people this afternoon and I didn't coach them AT ALL. Hands down, the I Like it There video came out on top. Overwhelmingly so.

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One person commented. . . . .I think the first video was kinda boring (meaning the Breakfast video). My thoughts exactly.

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Prince is NEVER boring. I have never been to a Prince concert where I wanted to go to sleep.

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I R&RLA as well. EXCELLENT video.

MantuaPharoah said:

If Prince is uncomfortable with it, then why does he write songs that have sex in them? Overt, suggestive or otherwise?

I'm starting to feel old, decrepit & undesirable reading some of the comments on the Org. Honestly. Like somehow being in your 50's is over the hill, life's over and your sex life goes out the window. Somehow, I don't think that's how it's supposed to be.

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And no, I'm not making this comment in relation to Prince & his videos. This is just a general ORG statement regarding age.

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I'm saying it because people on this board tend to look at things like life is over at 40 years of age. Anything beyond that is gross, undesirable, disgusting etc. It's not very uplifting for those of us in the 50 and over crowd. Hey, we're not dead yet! Sheesh.

Tempest said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest said:

If Prince is uncomfortable with it, then why does he write songs that have sex in them? Overt, suggestive or otherwise?

I meant uncomfortable with play acting it out on camera for a video. That statement came from Susanna saying prince felt funny about nude artwork or stained glass at paisley park or summin somewhere in DMSR book...ibaint digging the book out and looking it up

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Like we've discussed previously, there's no need to play act it out on camera (Prince or anyone else).

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[Edited 10/27/13 15:52pm]

BobGeorge909 said:

And I'm out ta this thread and discussing the yearnings of people wanting prince to be little sexy man all the time...dudes up there in age...let take a rest on it from time to time...jeesh. Its silly...in my opinion...to want a 55 y/o man to roleplay morning sex and firtyness in something made for wide consumption. It would only be gross and silly.

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I'm not sure of whom you speak. I'm not one of those people. All I want is for Prince to be himself. That's all, nothing more.

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I'm outta here as well. People just aren't "getting it". Whatever.

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest should make a treatment of her own and submit it to prince. Seems u know what better for prince than prince

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I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it's prolly time I get off the Org for good. I'm misunderstood around here all the friggin' time, called names and the list goes on and on. Enuff already.

Tempest said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Tempest said:

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I'm not sure of whom you speak. I'm not one of those people. All I want is for Prince to be himself. That's all, nothing more.

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I'm outta here as well. People just aren't "getting it". Whatever.

And apparent prince wanted to not "be" in the video. He's "being himself" outside of the video for this song. Prolly cuz he understand the creepiness involved in a 55 y/o man staring in a Viagra commercial.

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A 55 year old man starring in a Viagra commercial? What in the hell is that supposed to mean?

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I swear, the Org has lost its grip. Sad but true.

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[Edited 10/27/13 17:18pm]

Tempest said:

Wow, some of the responses on this thread are hillarious; I'm perplexed as to why the video has garnered such raw reviews. Yet, the responses are funny.

A 55 year old man...well, nothing is wrong with being 55, especially if you're Prince--cause as we all agree, he's sexy, period. I've seen more than a few 25, 35, 45 year olds that look DONE and they will not be returning!

Truthfully, I consider myself a grown-up woman, and really, if I'd cooked breakfast and my man pulled a number like that, I'd be shocked at first but I think we'd have to laugh about it because its soooo dramatic and corny, in a fun way--role playing keeps a relationship hot. I mean, he's not hitting her on the head with the plate...lol -- that would be bad.

Its a music video which will attract the 15-45 year olds for all of the reasons stated in your posts. Again, nothing wrong with that.

I think folks are taking the polka-dot outfit to seriously, who cooks breakfast in their work clothes anyway? Usually its a robe or pjs or nothing--unless you're frying bacon...lol.

BobGeorge909 said:

I wasn't angry...and though I quoted you, my response to to the thread I general. I agree to some extent with you last "*", in the sense that confidence is attractive and prince is always very confident on stage. But every video can't be a stage performance vid. Prince and many orhters are multi-demensional people and like many things which implies all won't be happy all the time. Find the good in what is rather than missing what isn't. I appreciate the altruistic nature of your post...but altruism and capitalism don't usually go hand in hand . at the end of the day he's selling a product and looking for some profits which symbolize success of some sort. I'm sorry for being hyperbolic in my communication but I felt it was transparent. Its a song about morning sex....fucking. Its difficult to juxtipose images of morning sex with images of a near senior citizen(since u object to old). It turns most people off and that attitude gets shifted to the song. He hasn't had an overtly sexual vid in a while and rather than looking for the impossible reconciliation of including his current age and image with the images put forth in the lyrics for a mass consumable product...he removed himself. I'm certain he could have created a performance/product that would have pleased you. Unfortunately, that doesnt appear to have been the game plan.

I can't see the logic in this statement at all. The song is written and performed by a "near senior citizen." So if the very idea of a so-called old man having sex is so upsetting to people, then I can't see what difference any kind of video is going to make.

Also, while (along with everyone else who would rather Prince actually be in his videos, especially if the alternative is a dance school Janet Jackson ripoff) I think Prince humping the stage or ejaculating with his guitar like he did 30 years ago would be pretty silly today, I also think that it would be amazing to promote the idea that - guess what? - people don't stop having sex when they turn 50. And there's nothing disgusting about that.