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The album that Prince never made basically a mid-80's dance/pop/ album (loud drum machines, synths, keyboards, processed funky guitar licks, etc); man, how I wish Prince had released another 1999 either in 1985 or 1986; I've never cared about ATWIAD and Parade is a masterpiece, yes, but not the dance/pop album that most of us wanted (at that time or retrospectively, doesn't matter)
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Where's the artistic growth in that? The Michael Jacksons and the Madonnas were the ones to constantly aim to repeat the past....Prince wanted to grow and challenge his audience. He is an artist. This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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oh yeah, whatever, ATWIAD is like the most boring album of the 80s released by a major mainstream artist
SOTT is excellent, but it's hardly a fun/party album, is it??
my point is that Prince ceased to be exciting/playful from Purple Rain to D&P | |
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lol ATWIAD is far from boring, that album challenged not only Prince to stretch out but his fans
that album says way more than Purple Rain, he did a better job on that album of expressing his feelings on world/pop culture issues:Pop Life inc Hello
and just experimenting in general. I love ATWIAD the whole package
Now after saying that I too would have like an album like your talking about
I could easily have seen Roadhouse Garden, Our Destiny, Feline, Dance Electric, Manic Monday Possessed or Lust U Always, and a good number of other songs as still stretching out but still having that electic PR touch
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I can honestly say I've never heard ATWIAD described as boring before.... wow |
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Sonically 1999, Purple Rain, and ATWIAD sound similar. Its just the subject matter and attitude changed. 1999 was Blade Runner like film noir. PR was future New Romantic. ATWIAD was future psychedelic. |
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Camille is what you're looking for | |
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WetDream said: Where's the artistic growth in that? The Michael Jacksons and the Madonnas were the ones to constantly aim to repeat the past....Prince wanted to grow and challenge his audience. He is an artist. They all continued to grow artistically, but in different ways. | |
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Speak for yourself. The "dance pop album that most of us wanted" ??I wanted Around the World in a Day, Parade(more or less), Sign o' the Times AND most of all, Lovesexy. I wouldn't be a fan right now if he had put out Purple Rain II or 1999 II. ATWIAD, especially, told me his passion for music(not sales) came first, his ability to break down stereotypes was 2nd to none, and he wasn't going to let anyone dictate what music to release. In many ways, Prince insured he would never be the "King of Pop" or some contemporary "Elvis" - because he's never played it safe. Lovesexy is the epitome of that line of thinking: 'Play the music I want to play. If they get it, great. If not, oh well'. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
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I think Joe is trying to get a rise out of everyone. I know he is a jokster and hell this thread is at least somewhat original. Besides another Parade is greater than Jesus thread Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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I can understand where Joe is coming from.I wasn't thrilled with ATWIAD.My favorite Prince album is 1999 and I kinda feel like he moved on from that sound,too fast.I wanted more of that,godammit!
Just imagine if Prince had released an album in 1985 titled "The Dance Electric",containing that tilte song,plus stuff like "Extra Lovable","Purple Music",etc.Yeah it probably would not have been considered artistic growth,but I don't care.I would have enjoyed that album much more than I enjoyed ATWIAD.
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He could have made his version Ray of Light "So fierce U look 2night, the brightest star pales 2 Ur sex..." | |
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scorp84 said: WetDream said: Where's the artistic growth in that? The Michael Jacksons and the Madonnas were the ones to constantly aim to repeat the past....Prince wanted to grow and challenge his audience. He is an artist. They all continued to grow artistically, but in different ways. I can't agree with that and I'm a huge Madonna fan.the money grew wth them.they were willing to spend more on videos and promotion and production. This is what they relied on in that period to push them forward. Especially with Michael .Bad was almost a carbon copy of Thriller complete with the huge video budgets . Prince recorded so much music that its easy to see how and why his music progressed as fast as it did.The artistry of what he was doing was so much more important and relevant than the money he spent to create his work, I also wanted and still want a dance album from Prince.he probably has old grooves up on the shelf that's 15-20 years old that is completely ahead of the dance music we have now.let's take a look back his biggest hits.the majority of his early big hits were also huge dance/club play chart hits as well.obviously that's where his music connects better with the listening public. | |
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Purple Rain, ATWIAD, Parade are key example that show Princes ability as a muscian. Some of his greatest works. While PR can pass as a pop-rock album its really really good when you acknowledge the instrumentation and melody rather than just the drums and hooks.
I can understand people have different tastes and me, myself, I prefer a melody inspired instrumentation. The subtile tones even in 1999 were key evidence that he was going to go for that.
These are songs you have to consciously listen to rather than nod your head, although since its Prince and he does do pop, you can also do that. But the magic is in the arrangements. | |
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khemseraph said: scorp84 said: They all continued to grow artistically, but in different ways. I can't agree with that and I'm a huge Madonna fan.the money grew wth them.they were willing to spend more on videos and promotion and production. This is what they relied on in that period to push them forward. Especially with Michael .Bad was almost a carbon copy of Thriller complete with the huge video budgets . Prince recorded so much music that its easy to see how and why his music progressed as fast as it did.The artistry of what he was doing was so much more important and relevant than the money he spent to create his work, I also wanted and still want a dance album from Prince.he probably has old grooves up on the shelf that's 15-20 years old that is completely ahead of the dance music we have now.let's take a look back his biggest hits.the majority of his early big hits were also huge dance/club play chart hits as well.obviously that's where his music connects better with the listening public. MJ saw the short film medium as an extension of his music in the big scheme of things and he became an innovator in that respect. His interest in the full spectrum of the arts was what inspired the big budget shorts that mostly came out of his own pockets. His desire extended far beyond music, but that doesn't mean his musical artistry suffered. If anything, it was expanded as years went on. They ALL competed over record sales AND money, regardless of what anybody thinks. The only reason why Jackson's sales are scrutinized so much is because they're incomparable. What Prince didn't seriously care for (and in most cases, it's painfully obvious) was music video. That shouldn't be a knock or a pat on the back, but it is what it is. MJ's aim was to entertain and inspire his audience. While the challenges were issued to his musical peers. There is no challenge once you have their ears. It's a simple decision: to listen or not. | |
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That album would be great. I'd love something like that in the 90s when he was throwing out multiple albums a year. Maybe an 11 track Crystal Ball type thing. But no way would I not have ATWIAD or Parade. Hundalasiliah! |
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Yasssss! [Edited 10/23/13 10:57am] | |
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I'm afraid I won't live long enough to see "The Dawn." (What was that ever supposed to be about???)
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The thing that makes Prince great is exactly what some people in this thread are complaining about. Prince operates horizontally (lol, no innuendo intended) in the sense that he does a project with a concept and a sound, and then he moves on to the next concept and the next sound. Some people are gonna dislike whatever the next thing is and some people are gonna love it. Other artists operate vertically, with every subsequent release intended to be the bigger and better version of what came before it.
I don't ever want Prince to make the same album again. I don't want a follow up to what the last record sounded like. What's the point?
You know, if you don't dig a record, who cares? The next one will be different and maybe you'll dig it. I don't dig The Rainbow Children at all. I barely listen to it. But there's people here who love it. Imagine if Prince listened to all those people who loved it and kept making that album over and over again? I would have lost interest.
Most albums in his catalog have a unique style and sound, and that's part of what makes him brilliant.
As for the insane statement about Prince ceasing to be playful from PR to D&P..... um, what? Camille? The Black Album? Did you miss those?
Shit, Camille is EXACTLY what you described:
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I remember wanting the same thing like Joe but looking back now, Prince was right.In addition to the Prince albums I listened a lot to Jesse Johnson, Da Krash, RFTW, General Kane...the electro funk in needed  [Edited 10/27/13 0:55am] Love4oneanother | |
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this explains why I love the Mazarati album so much.It was released in early 1986,around the same time as Parade.While I appreciate the "artistic" qualities of Parade,the hardcore jams on the Mazarati album is what I was really looking for.Their album is one of the final examples of 'the Minneapolis sound' (a sound that Prince abandoned in the mid-80s). | |
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The wooh is on the one! | |
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SoulAlive said: MadamGoodnight said: Yasssss!  That's exactly what I had a taste for. 1999 was, and still is the all time favorite for me. I opened up the cassette to ATWIAD, listened and was disappointed. She's Always In My Hair actually slayed, but it was only a B side. Prince made some of his best material B sides (Erotic City, Irresistible B&^ch), gave it to friends like The Time, Andre', or kept them in the vault. Sigh. What might have been....... this explains why I love the Mazarati album so much.It was released in early 1986,around the same time as Parade.While I appreciate the "artistic" qualities of Parade,the hardcore jams on the Mazarati album is what I was really looking for.Their album is one of the final examples of 'the Minneapolis sound' (a sound that Prince abandoned in the mid-80s).  almost forget to mention Mazarati...and the Andre Cymone album AC ![Edited 10/27/13 8:53am] Love4oneanother | |
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What the fuck? "Kiss" is likely the most playful song ever created.
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"Housequake" is THE party song, if you can't find excitement in it, you may be dead. "New Power slide...." |
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what are u talkin bout? he made MPLSound which is just as good as 1999 .. ur just a hater! lol
anyway .. if u want 1999 part 2 just take a few tracks from the next few records and b sides and make a mix cd and print 1999 part 2 on it .. songs like 'when doves cry' 'erotic city' '17 days' ' the beautiful ones' 'pop life' 'america' 'kiss' 'sign o the times' 'shockadelica' 'love or money' 'ballad o dorothy parker' 'crystal ball' 'if eye wuz yer g unit' 'hot thang' 'the screams of passion'... all of these could have made for a follow up purely in the tradition of 1999
personally i love the funk of the live drum sound more than the drum machine .. more in the tradition of 'tamborine' 'i wonder u' 'dream factory' 'mountains' and would love to hear the beats of the drum machine performed on live percussion .. precisely as they were previously recorded (likely with multiple percussionistas) ..
so there u have it .. maybe retitle the thread "the album prince never compiled" | |
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