Thanks for sharing What I really find both very surprising and quite amusing is the fact that most of you guys basically say that u didn't give a shit and that u more or less still don't. I thought it would all be "I almost cried" and shit This tends to demonstrate that the people who're always saying how The Revoltion was P's best band ever and how they were so important to his sound and what defined "Prince" in his golden age are fans that came AFTER the band disbanded and NEVER were contemporary to "Prince And The Revolution". That says a lot IMHO A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Sheila E should have remained a frontman, I enjoyed her on drums backing Prince but would have prefered to see her and her band promoting Sheila E:Love on a Blue Train, Koo Koo, Hon E Man / Levi didn't replace Wendy as a guitarist, he replaced BrownMark as a bassist, and BrownMark handled the bass very well and was Prince's 1st choice / Prince never had the connection he had with Wendy, Boni Boyer couldn't touch Lisa Coleman on the piano/keyboards/synths / Prince didn't write a song dedicated to Boni Levi or Mico
How did we ever lose communication? How did we ever lose each other's sound? I'm looking 4 the road that leads back 2 the soul we shared / Cat just in being female had a different connection with Prince, But the connection he had with Jerome was long term, I would have loved a Wally Cat Jerome combination.
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To the above folks, as a drummer Bobby can't even touch Sheila, I will admit that, but as far as musical talent and ideas as far as influence on Prince? Miko, Levi, and the rest of The Lovesexy Band to come behind Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, W@L, Dez, Jesse Johnson and Morris Day, is an insult! Again, as I posted earlier Prince has had some great musicians after 86", BUT we all wouldn't even consider Prince GREAT or an ICON if it wasn't for the first six or 7 albums AND the musicians who HELPED in the creative process of those great albums... | |
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sad part is Prince didn't care for the SOTT concept much, because he wanted the Crystal Ball I always wondered why the period came and went so quickly. | |
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I honestly don't remember my reaction. I think Prince was slowly adding in more people as he was letting people go that it didn't seem abrupt. I don't remember when Wendy, Lisa, Bobby, and Mark left. You just figured it out through music videos and album credits. It wasn't until SOTT that I realized,"Oh, Prince has a new band. And that girl who was on Star Search is with him. What?!" [Edited 10/21/13 12:57pm] | |
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The comment was about the "wealth of talent" Revolution band members had that later band members didn't have...not about what "connection" Prince had with them or whether or not he wrote any songs dedicated to them lol ...
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I was happy initially basically just because as a 12 year old I got tired of the Revolution stealing some of P's props. I was so stupid. I loved the music and obviously as I got older loved and missed the Revolution even more. Not just for their musicianship, but also the music of other artists that they brought to P's attention. I feel who he's listening to musically can also have an effect on where he goes with his own stuff. Hopefully someone will come into his life and Play some mind blowing stuff for him to inspire another change. 1980-Present
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When I first heard the news I was thrilled. I had been a Prince fan since 1979 and was not pleased at the time with the albums released under the name "Prince and The Revolution" other than "Purple Rain". "Around The World In A Day" and "Parade" were a drastic change in his sound and I, as well as many other people, wondered if The Revolution's participation and influence was a part of this.
When I heard they disbanded, I was thrilled and thinking the next album would be a return to the "Old Prince" with the cold synths, futuristic sound, no horns, and no jazz feel whatsoever. "Sign O The Times" was still a retro 1960s and 1970s feel and when I first bought it, I wanted to slam it against the wall just like I had felt when I first bought "Around The World In A Day" and "Parade". . . . [Edited 10/21/13 13:48pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I'm pretty sure that 'Controversy' and '1999' were solely Prince except for a few exceptions (like Dez playing the solo in "Little Red Corvette").
'Purple Rain' was mostly all Prince except for the band recordings (with overdubs and edits).
It's been widely stated that Prince played nearly everything on 'Parade', and also with 'Around The World in a Day' (which had a bit more band involvement than 'Parade').
This is not anti-Revolution here... I loved the Revolution. I'm just a credit freak.
Back on topic, I really didn't care. Everything was so exciting in the world of Prince back then, and we were sort of "trained" to be taken off guard by something unexpected every year.
On top of that, like many others here, the 'Sign O' The Times' era was very special to me. It wouldn't be until the following year that I was able to go to my first Prince concert... the 'Lovesexy' tour. Now that really blew me away.
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I really didn't feel anything. I followed Prince since the Gayle Chapman days so there were already changes when she left, when Dre left, and when Dez left. To be honest, when Purple Rain came out, I was looking for a 1999 part two. For me, Prince, Dirty Mind, Controversy and 1999 were the golden age, not PR, ATWIAD and Parade. ATWIAD and Parade are my least favorites from those days. I wasn't feeling the sound in general. Outside of a song or two and B-sides, I hadn't listened to either in many years. I just picked them up again last year. 1999 was, and still is my favorite. I was happy when Prince moved on to SOTT and Lovesexy. | |
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Yup Byron hit the nail on the head. I didn't even realize that 1999 was a Prince and The Revolution album. Dude is a solo artist and SOTT didn't make ppl get nostalgic for the Rev. Besides his lineup changes from Dirty Mind had clued us in, to not get stuck on interchangeable band members | |
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I was bummed a bit. I really liked the idea of Prince and Wendy and Lisa--the Rolling Stone cover story, Prince's saying that without Mark he'd eliminate bass from his music (I think he might have said something similar later about Sonny). I didn't have any problems with the idea that Prince's music would greatly change--I'd paid enough attention to the credits to realize that many of the tracks I most liked (even on the "Revolution" albums) were Prince alone, and obviously it was changing pretty radically even on the three (or four, if you want to count that silly reversed credit on 1999--which I don't) Revolution albums. The "P, A, C and P by Prince and the Revolution" credit had to be taken with a grain of salt just as much as (well, probably more than) the "P, A, C, and P by Prince." Yes, they had an influence on him--but I knew Prince was who I was a real fan of (though I've enjoyed Wendy and Lisa's work since). I wasn't in tears--and probably the expansion of the band by the end contributed to the ease of the change-over--if they had remained a six-piece and then suddenly everyone was gone, well, that would have been different. But Matt was still there, Sheila was there, that Eric guy was there--and then we had a huge album, plus the Madhouse stuff. It was exciting, and Wendy and Lisa and the others were gonna do their thing--kind of like the Time breaking up led to Morris and Jesse doing their stuff (and the Family).
I still look back on the Revolution as the band, but probably the breakup of the mid 90's NPG was more of a "now what" moment--it had been so intense, and they seemed to be firing on so many cylinders (and he'd allowed them their "own" albums), then the Warner Bros war ended, Emancipation was so, well, different (and mostly solo) and, well, disappointing (though I liked most of it, it wasn't up to the hype), and the new band had no personality at all that I ever became aware of. And it's mostly stayed that way for me through all the subsequent NPGs. So 3EG, though they might be limited in some ways, at least feel like something with promise, realizing that as with the Revolution and the NPGs, it's Prince that we're really talking about. | |
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I remember hearing the news around fall of 1986. I became a fanatic with Purple Rain, so was nearly as much a fan of Lisa and Wendy as I was Prince. I guess I was in shock. I don't remember finding out who was in the new band until the 1987 Billboard issue devoted to the Minneapolis sound came out in early 1987. Needless to say, I was still a huge Prince fan. I think a lot of the breakup had to do with Prince's ego. TRUE BLUE | |
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vainandy said:When I first heard the news I was thrilled. I had been a Prince fan since 1979 and was not pleased at the time with the albums released under the name "Prince and The Revolution" other than "Purple Rain". "Around The World In A Day" and "Parade" were a drastic change in his sound and I, as well as many other people, wondered if The Revolution's participation and influence was a part of this. When I heard they disbanded, I was thrilled and thinking the next album would be a return to the "Old Prince" with the cold synths, futuristic sound, no horns, and no jazz feel whatsoever. "Sign O The Times" was still a retro 1960s and 1970s feel and when I first bought it, I wanted to slam it against the wall just like I had felt when I first bought "Around The World In A Day" and "Parade". . . .
. OldFriends4Sale said: The thing is most of the people in the Revolution were always in the band priorBobby Z since the band Prior to For UMatt Fink since For ULisa Coleman since Dirty MindBrownMark since ControversyWendy Melvoin was in the camp since Dirty Mind and doing stuff with Prince on 1999 | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Ahhh, pre internet when ignorance was bliss. When I first read it in a UK newspaper I took it with a pinch of salt. The papers often got it wrong. When it was confirmed I was gutted. I though Prince had made a huge mistake and was waiting for an announcement that he had changed his mind. Of course he didn't but when SOTT dropped, nothing mattered anymore! +1 but I have to say I still pine for the Revolution. 84-86 was probably his most prolific musically and no other band became a household name internationally. I too was gutted when I heard the Rev had been disbanded but equally excited about the SOTT tour which eventually never happened in the UK. I think I found out from the weekly music paper NME and was completely shocked at the time as I thought the band could do no wrong. They were to quote ' The baddest band in the universe". | |
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I first heard about it in the fall of 1986 on a local radio station.The DJ played "Girls And Boys" and when the song was over,he mentioned that the Revolution was no more.I was excited by this news.Around that time (late '86),there was a sense that Prince needed to make some changes.Parade wasn't a massive success and UTCM had been a major flop.It was time for new blood and a new direction.I was thrilled with what came next.In fact,the SOTT/Lovesexy band is my favorite. | |
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I was shocked but then when SOTT was released it was soon forgotten and even more so when he toured with Lovesexy. We all need to gro and we can't do that unless we have new experiences in life and a new band added a different viewpoint and certainly more Funk to his music | |
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I was devastated. Untill today and beyond.
I became a prince fan in 1986; too late to attend the Parade tour.
The revolution reunion concert gave some relief but it was less 'magical' then with P
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Apologies for saying this but I really find responses like this baffling and emotional. I can only assume you don't play any instruments yourself (or aren't very good). Levi is a better guitarist than Wendy, and I agree Brownmark was great but I didn't mention him as a limitation. Don't get me wrong I love Wendy and Lisa but they offered nothing groundbreaking as musicians or vocalists (maybe songwriters). Prince's SOTT & LoveSexy band were so much tighter and versatile. And as for vocals how on earth can you compare Boni and Cat to Lisa and Wendy?? Go listen back to the rehearsal tapes from 83,84,85,86 - how many times would Prince lose his rag with Wendy or Lisa for not keeping up. And as for Bobby vs Sheila - are you serious that you can't see how he was limited? Go and compare the musicianship of the Lovesexy aftershows to the 83 and 84 ones - no brainer.
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Purple Rain was 1/2 full band:Let's Go Crazy, Computer Blue, IWD4U, Baby I'm A Star & Purple Rain 1/2 Prince:the Beautiful Ones Darling Nikki When Doves Cry
. also he used Lisa a lot on songs and like she and even Morris said, things done in jam sessions and rehearsals end up on songs, but with no credit. Lisa sang underneath Apollonia's vocals on Take Me With U, there was a lot of creating of songs that extended to band members (especially Lisa & Wendy) I believe songs like Take Me With U and Manic Monday were Sometimes It Snows It April and some other that they contributed.
. Even on his Lovesexy album that was mostly Prince, with Sheila on drums (not all the time) Don't know much of the Black album of course
. I mean if we didn't have quotes from Eric Leeds & Susan Rogers on Power Fantastic, would we know when Prince released it, that it was a Lisa Coleman composition, and a full band recording?
. I'm a credit freak too lol but even on Parade, there is some stuff that Brown Mark did instrumentally that wasn't credited as well.
. I loved SOTT era but also a disappointment, because he didn't tour the states and then even though I liked the movie, it was a disappointment that we got a concert film only... Prince himself didn't care much for the SOTT album sadly
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I don't know who you're responding to so I'll assume Aaron6 | |
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* This summarizes my general thoughts at the time. Having been a fan since 1979, it was just another one of those expected changes or transitions for Prince, and I was looking forward to the new ride or direction. | |
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I felt sad in a nostalgic kinda way. | |
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I learned from that split or break up around winter '87, when I read about it in the music magazines - I think Dutch magazine OOR - or it was through a fanzine, no that one was not yet out, it must have been the OOR, anyway. I was surprised! I mean, had I had any knowledge of the last Japan september show - and all the stories we got to know later - it would make more sense. But then I read about the new album SOTT and at some Dutch radio station Op Slag Van Maandag, DJ Hubert van Hoof played some new tracks Housequake and also Rockhard In A Funky Place and I was thrilled. What sound is this? I could not really determine if it was Revolutionized or just Prince. It took some time to realise and to understand that the Revolution was abandonded. But hey, He was the boss, right? I mean I respect Prince and his choices and the music continued, the way he wanted and with whom he wanted. The music continued and I was content, very content with it. And the band did not change that much, imo, except for the ladies W&L and Bobby Z and BM. Okay, it did change much. But for me, it got better, again imo.
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I had disappointing feeling of the disbanding of the Revolution and the Lovesexy band.
I mean with all the talk about them, before they even got started they were done ... When the Batman videos/music started coming out I saw no Cat, No Sheila E. Dr Fink popped into the Party Man video near the end, Mico was still there, No Boni, No Eric or Atlanta Bliss
the changes didn't do well 4 me, too much change isn't always a good thing
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I was surprised as it seemed he would be with at least Wendy & Lisa for awhile especially after the cover story with them in Rolling Stone just months before, it seemed they were happy and Prince was collaborating so much with them. But I was also excited to see Sheila as the new drummer and to see Wendy & Lisa on their own (I thought for sure they would end up on Paisley Park record label and still be associated with him).
Once I heard SOTT, the song, then the album, and then the movie I didn't care anymore...but over the years I guess there is a bit of me wishes he still collaborated with W&L more as they seemed to have a positive infulence on his music. | |
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lol, the "band" of the 89-90 era was just a rough transition from the Lovesexy band to the original NPG | |
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I don't think I found out until after Sign O' the Times came out, and I was so in love with that album that I wasn't too grief stricken...although having said that, I was very sad to see Wendy & Lisa go, because I loved (and still love) everything about them: their voices, their musicianship, their attitude, their style, their energy. However, the Sign O' the Times band to me seemed to have some personality, although I was a bit confused as to who was who at first, but I figured I would have to give it some time. I mean, any band with Eric Leeds in it is a-okay in my book!
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lol Yeah I know, New Power...
4 me once Sheila E Cat Dr Fink & Eric were gone, the band lost some kind of personality 2 me, I might include Mico too because he fit that quirky vision of 1983-1986 too
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