Prince's music embraced sex before the eyes of God. Do you think he is repenting for his past actions?



WARNING: This is not intended to be a discussion on the pros/cons of the JW's faith, so where possible, let's see if we can leave that aside.

Anji said:

hell yes. Prince, Sex and God..what a threesome.

rdhull said:

Do you believe he is repenting because of that threesome?

he's always been repenting - and sinning - and repenting again, all within the span of the same 45 minute album.

Remarkable, that.


Now it seems he's leaving out the sinning part... "70 minutes of repenting", a/k/a "The Rainbow Children".

rdhull said:

Maybe that was his Holy Trinity.

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JonSnow said:

That's why I dontr get it about the spiritual fervor that people claim about Lovesexy..I guess it wasn't strong enough to stop Gett Off, Sexy MF etc...



true that

thebumpsquad said:

I wonder if there is anybody that does not want to see Prince get nasty again. More importantly, will it really be to the detriment of his music if he decides not to sin again?

I don't think it'll be a detriment to his music if he stops being nasty,but ENUFF with the new Larry Graham versions of old songs,example...
Days Of Wild pre-LG "She's a motherfucking liar, and I'm a set up kid".
Days Of Wild apres-LG "She's a big old liar, and I'm a set up kid".
That old man has alot 2 answer 4!

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Anji said:

That depends on what you mean by nasty. Some people here consider that little innocuous, albeit suggestive snippet in "Mellow" nasty.

thebumpsquad said:

Prince is capable of making his own choices as to how he'll lead his life and work through his beliefs. Surely Prince is to answer for, as you put it, not Larry Graham?

Supernova said:

Mellow is suggestive, not nasty. Interestingly, when I initially listened to The Rainbow Children, I didn't miss anything from Prince's sexual repertoire.

Anji said:

i would like it, personally. Just because it adds a little spice. But I can live without it. Sometimes - like on Orgasm - he just gets silly while trying to be daring and shocking and sexy. It's not 1981 anymore, and nobody will be shocked by anything he does, so...

JonSnow said:

People were shocked about The Rainbow Children.

Anji said:

aint that a blip? he shocked by being good this time..well being so called righteous..

Anji said:

Thank you.
And thank you.

Anji said:

were they? shocked about what? how unlistenable 30% of the album is? Shockingly pretentious?

TRC needed some serious reigning in. I made a killer 9 track version of TRC... rocks.

But.. of course... all this is just my opinion.


..vanessa bartholemew reports a shockingly bizarro career move by Prince! tonite at 11!!
[This message was edited Wed Mar 12 20:18:51 PST 2003 by JonSnow]

Listening to "Mellow" it sounds to me like he still has a very healthy view of sex.

In the past he’d lay Kim Basinger down with one breath and use the next to champion monogamy. Now he’s just consistently breathing in the latter context.

Which is why he has no problem singing “Do Me, Baby”, but he won’t touch “International Lover”. One is going “9 1/2 Weeks” on your wife while the other is a fling with a flight attendant.

rdhull said:

I think that he was taking "love is god, god is love" pretty literally during lovesexy. I think he was, to some degree, rejecting church-style religion in favor of joy-style religion.

And then life got bumpy for him and he caved.

Brendan said:

interesting point... i never thought of international lover being w/ a flight attendant... i thought it was more metaphorical, like LRC

Brendan said:

That's a very good point, Brendan. I actually think Do Me, Baby sounds sexier than International Lover.

tackam said:

Another very good point. What exactly got bumpy and how did that make him reflect upon his own beliefs?

JonSnow said:

I meant that somewhat humorously.

Metaphorically he is of course talking about a fast, adventurous woman. But clearly this song is about a fling and that’s why he isn’t singing its praises in concert right now. Really hard to pass this one off as sex with your wife, you know?

I think he's tried many a time to "change".

First time was Purple Rain (84), then Anastesia (88), then Holy River (96)
then Rainbow Children (00).

Each song refers a certain "change"
he is aspiring to.

closer to my higher self, closer to God,
voice inside ...THIS time I was listening
...covenant will be kept THIS time etc.
[This message was edited Wed Mar 12 20:38:06 PST 2003 by origmnd]

origmnd said:

Do you think Prince felt that he was 'failing' to make the neccessary transition towards his higher self, his God? Do you think he felt that he needs discipline to 'succeed' in his quest?

Maybe he's not really denouncing the sexual. I think he was just concentrating on something else in The Rainbow Children. I don't think it was contradictory for him to go from Lovesexy to Gett Off or any other "dirty" song--his songs seemed to be saying that you could have sex and believe in God at the same time. And I think it makes sense that it then progressed to "Sex between two people is all right, if all the love in the world is what they got." This is just my opinion, but it's one of the things that made me like Prince in the first place: You could have sex if you wanted and still make it to heaven. That was what was pretty revolutionary about his music to me and really drew me in as a fan. That was a spiritual vision very few people had the courage to speak about before him.

I suppose he lacked a certain disipline
on each of those occasions as he sort of
"slipped" back to his old ways.

It might have to be examined further
to see if specific conditions permeated
him at the time. Maybe drugs, dissapointing relationships ...


also I've noticed he has even questioned
the existence of God.
[This message was edited Wed Mar 12 21:40:37 PST 2003 by origmnd]

Anji said:

Hold up! Who said gettin' nasty was a sin?
If you gotta wife, and you wanna get nasty with her, more power 2 ya!

The last show I saw, he projected a VERY sexy vibe, (I just love his hands).
Prince doesn't need to grind his organ on his piano to get the point accross!lol!
MMM...his eyes, his lips, his fingertips...ouch! too hot!