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Thread started 09/16/13 9:58am

Vannormal

Props to... Prince !

You know what ?

I'm tired of hearing you all moan and complain about Prince not releasing an album this year.
You know, I also would like to have a new album or ten if possible.

2013 would be big... ? Well, it is.
You may not like his new approach, but hey, that's your problem.

He released a lot. Whatever (you think) the quality is.
These aren't the 80s anymore. He moved on. Apparently his older fan base doesn't like that, too bad. They prefer remasters with new and older outtakes, remixes, Dvd's, live CDs, etc.
That's just making money like most older artists do out there the last 15 years or so, but not Prince.
I think he doesn't have time for this. Or just doesn't like to do it. So what? It's all his call (& possibly WB and contractual obligations have a lot to do with it too).

How many artists tour the way P does ? How often is he out there for us ?
Expensive tickets ? Possibly, yes. So what ?

The Music industry and everything with it changed. And how !
Releasing Albums in their classic format maybe is just history. Wo knows.
One thing you can't say is that P isn't contemporary in his approach of releasing music to us and everyone interested.
He was there 20y ago when the Internet started and became one of the pioneers. He took risks. He did what he wanted. And somehow, he still does.

If you like an album, a live album, a rehearsal album, whatever, assemble your own from all the 2011-2013 stuff that's available.

there's tons of new stuff from this year alone. Enough for maybe five albums and a DVD if you like. A 3rdeyegirl album, a prince album, a rehearsal album, an Npg album, a live album, a rehearsal album and/or DVD. You can create your own extras with pics from P's twitter account, 3rdeyegirl's, 3rdeyeboy's, YouTube, Facebook, his bandmembers pages, dr whateverberry...

Make 'm. Be creative.
And then be your own critic and dis or love it.
in the meantime P is working hard to do what he does best.
And that's entertaining us till the day he dies.

The eighties are dead, long live the eighties !
Peace and long live 2013 (which still has three months and a half to go.)

If you are bored with all is, well, Prince sure isn't.

I'm actually excited to hear he doesn't believe in releasing albums any more. Maybe he has something new up his sleeve. He always surprised me.

Is the music great ? Naaaah. I'm just happy to hear it all.
I'm not asking anymore for much more.
He already gave us so much.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/13 11:02am

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There's plenty of musicians who tour MORE than Prince does for LOWER prices. How many shows has he done, really? April-may on the American west coast, about ten concerts in Europe, that's about it. He's pooped out a few tracks on the net that nobody except us knows about and...that's about it.
Don't get me wrong, he can do what he wants and I'm sure the live shows were good because they always are, but as for a "big" year...no way. disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/13 11:39am

Vannormal

SuperSoulFighter said:

There's plenty of musicians who tour MORE than Prince does for LOWER prices. How many shows has he done, really? April-may on the American west coast, about ten concerts in Europe, that's about it. He's pooped out a few tracks on the net that nobody except us knows about and...that's about it.
Don't get me wrong, he can do what he wants and I'm sure the live shows were good because they always are, but as for a "big" year...no way. disbelief


How many Other artists of Prince's calibre, age and weight are as prolific as him these days ?
I think over the past three years he performed quite frequently compared to equal artists. The younger generation is more out there that's true.
And of course no one knows about his contemporary output. But is that what he really wants ? He only focuses on other music while touring. Basically few new material was played. Until now... And yes the gigs are smaller in size etc.
I believe P isn't interested in big comebacks anymore. For the best maybe.
Still I think 2013 is far bigger than 2011 or 2013... IMHO of course.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #3 posted 09/16/13 11:41am

Vannormal

(Correction...)

2013 is bigger than 2011 & 2012 I believe.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/13 12:59am

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^That is, of course, completely true. I just don't like the "how many other artists...etc" thing. Let's not turn this into a competition. Especially since, when it comes to touring, the guy whose quote I use for a signature, beats everyone. wink
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Reply #5 posted 09/17/13 1:52am

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To be fair Prince is playing a catch up game in a sport he used to lead....

Springsteen is the man showing how to do it....Long concerts ...mixed set-list with full albums played and supporting fan-sites, one of his bootleg sites (there name reflects this) have similar photos of the Audience from each show taken from just behind the mic, official??, as well as lists of youtube clips covering most of the concert!!)

Never mind playing the like of 5 stadium concerts in Ireland of 45,000 apiece = 225,000 which is about 1/15 of our population.

Not a big Boss fan but have to give the man respect!!!

The right to free discussion is protected!!
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/13 2:58am

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Hey Vannormal: reality check please.. wink

Of course Prince is a brilliant artist, he is truly skilled - no one in ther right mind can say he is not,


I like the way you, Vannormal is trying to defend Prince in every way. You have an opinion - cool, I just don't agree.

Prince's music is just a shadow now, 2013 has been a disaster (so far),


and in general Prince has released a lot of half bad-half good, middle on the road albums since the decline began after The Gold Experience, after he left the Warner Bros. in 1995, about 17-18 years ago.

Here and there we still get a good song though, once in a while. But the albums aren't like they used to.

Live Prince is still great in concerts, but his studio work could be better. I miss the raw and funky, the "dangerous" Prince, his studio music (Eg. the 3EG songs) seems so outwatered now. I still have hopes for the new album, soon to be released.

(Before the attacks from other Orgers sets in: I consider myself a Prince fan for life, because of the great music from him: 1978 to 1995, and because of the many great Prince concerts I have experienced 1987 to 2010).

Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/13 3:53am

XxAxX

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great thread! 100% agree. this has been a fantastic year, and a lot of fun to be part of. prince keep getting better every year

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Reply #8 posted 09/17/13 5:39am

dJJ

jfrost said:

To be fair Prince is playing a catch up game in a sport he used to lead....

Springsteen is the man showing how to do it....Long concerts ...mixed set-list with full albums played and supporting fan-sites, one of his bootleg sites (there name reflects this) have similar photos of the Audience from each show taken from just behind the mic, official??, as well as lists of youtube clips covering most of the concert!!)

Never mind playing the like of 5 stadium concerts in Ireland of 45,000 apiece = 225,000 which is about 1/15 of our population.

Not a big Boss fan but have to give the man respect!!!



Boss really did a great job.

But, I'm very happy Prince leads his own way now. I'm not interested in those marketed big shows.

I really like the pop-up live concerts in beautiful venues.


And I love it that he gives us stuf fresh out the oven. Girl Thang is fantastic. So happy that didn't go trough the hands of producers, marketeers, dressers, accountants etc. Just straight from Prince to his fans. I really apreciate this phase. He's not out there pleasing the huge crowds, but he's pleasing himself and plays his music.

I do think he spends a lot of his time advising and supporting others. But is that a bad thing? That he's coaching other musicians and supporting their careers?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #9 posted 09/17/13 6:19am

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SuperSoulFighter said:

There's plenty of musicians who tour MORE than Prince does for LOWER prices. How many shows has he done, really? April-may on the American west coast, about ten concerts in Europe, that's about it. He's pooped out a few tracks on the net that nobody except us knows about and...that's about it. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he wants and I'm sure the live shows were good because they always are, but as for a "big" year...no way. disbelief

u know what they say..u get what u pay for....lower price--lower quality

Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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Reply #10 posted 09/17/13 6:35am

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thank u ! we need more post like this hug

a prince news a day, keeps the doctor away prince
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Reply #11 posted 09/17/13 6:36am

purple1968

SuperSoulFighter said:

There's plenty of musicians who tour MORE than Prince does for LOWER prices. How many shows has he done, really? April-may on the American west coast, about ten concerts in Europe, that's about it. He's pooped out a few tracks on the net that nobody except us knows about and...that's about it. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he wants and I'm sure the live shows were good because they always are, but as for a "big" year...no way. disbelief

Wow Prince toured and put out music like a demon for 25 years and that was not enough for you. WTF

Bruce Springsteen needs to tour since his catalgoe of music is pretty small for somemone who has been in the came since 73. The year is not over so quit your crying. I think P has been doing a good job building some momentum for his upcoming release and I was on this board back in 2004 when everyone was crying that he would not sell out one venue on the Musicology tour but he did it so save your nosense because we have all seen this movie before.

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Reply #12 posted 09/17/13 9:21am

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While respecting your opinion, I strongly disagree with your subjective assessment of recent Prince music. As 4 me, I'm loving recent jams...to each their own.
No justice, No peace
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Reply #13 posted 09/17/13 9:43am

RodeoSchro

XxAxX said:

great thread! 100% agree. this has been a fantastic year, and a lot of fun to be part of. prince keep getting better every year


Ditto. Anyone that is still whining about Prince releasing an "album" just really has too much time on their hands.

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Reply #14 posted 09/17/13 1:33pm

Vannormal

jfrost said:

To be fair Prince is playing a catch up game in a sport he used to lead....



Springsteen is the man showing how to do it....Long concerts ...mixed set-list with full albums played and supporting fan-sites, one of his bootleg sites (there name reflects this) have similar photos of the Audience from each show taken from just behind the mic, official??, as well as lists of youtube clips covering most of the concert!!)



Never mind playing the like of 5 stadium concerts in Ireland of 45,000 apiece = 225,000 which is about 1/15 of our population.



Not a big Boss fan but have to give the man respect!!!



Oh i agree. Bruce is invincible.
I like what he 'still' does. His new material is always interesting, but just like Prince, it isn't all that new and refreshing anymore. Dont get me wrong, I like it. And big props to the man.
Same goes for Bob Dylan. (IMHO)

Still, with all the bootlegs we're able to see, as fans, we're seriously spoiled. Ok, its NOT official. For one, I dont care the boots or official, as long as i can enjoy it all. All we have to do is to look for it. It's all out, and P fans are clever and creative.
Only, we should be more loyal and share as much as possible. But that's another discussion. I think P fans are greedy and prefer to keep rare stuff for themselves. Not good. Again IMHO.

So honestly, Prince probably does shit for his fans compared with what Bruce or Madonna or Gaga Does... I don't mind, cause basically all P makes and plays, is thanks to the Internet out there and will pop up eventually.
I love to dig for something new. I don't mind spending time finding it. I'm not loosing time. For me, all this over the years has become part of Being a fan.

Oh, and I'm 47yo. A Prince fan since the early days. From '1999' on to be precise.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #15 posted 09/18/13 12:12pm

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thepope2the9s said:



SuperSoulFighter said:


There's plenty of musicians who tour MORE than Prince does for LOWER prices. How many shows has he done, really? April-may on the American west coast, about ten concerts in Europe, that's about it. He's pooped out a few tracks on the net that nobody except us knows about and...that's about it. Don't get me wrong, he can do what he wants and I'm sure the live shows were good because they always are, but as for a "big" year...no way. disbelief

u know what they say..u get what u pay for....lower price--lower quality


So if Prince charges $1000 for a concert he's 1000 times better? confuse
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